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i am sure that the 121th regiment is under the control of IS. Alhanuty ( talk) 19:40, 30 July 2014 (UTC) Yes they are — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.136.151.190 ( talk) 16:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Significant battle in terms of losses to both sides, and complicated history. Might justify standalone to flesh out. -- Green C 21:04, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Pictures released by IS show at least four maybe five MiG 21Bs captured. Base clearly looks overrun, so it was not evacuated but routed. http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2014/08/islamic_state_photos.php -- Tgoll774 ( talk) 13:00, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
The air-base battle was initially covered in detail at
2014_Eastern_Syria_offensive#Battle_of_Tabqa_air_base, but the proposal was made on the page's talk page, and carried out IIRC about a month later, to create a separate article for that battle. There was no discussion about how that would change the article on the offensive that includes the battle, but we've long been clear that covering the same ground, in the same depth, in multiple articles creates chaos; the question of how much difference in depth there should be is, as far as i can see, not subject to a formula, and i'm not even going to propose a long-term "depth" for the offensive's article's coverage of the battle. I doubt greatly that simply a link to the battle's coverage would be optimum, but IMO it's a good starting place, and i'll settle for that rather than get deeper into the question than i can quickly go, mostly leaving it to others to decide what balance among the aspects of the battle deserve priority.
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i am sure that the 121th regiment is under the control of IS. Alhanuty ( talk) 19:40, 30 July 2014 (UTC) Yes they are — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.136.151.190 ( talk) 16:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Significant battle in terms of losses to both sides, and complicated history. Might justify standalone to flesh out. -- Green C 21:04, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Pictures released by IS show at least four maybe five MiG 21Bs captured. Base clearly looks overrun, so it was not evacuated but routed. http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2014/08/islamic_state_photos.php -- Tgoll774 ( talk) 13:00, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
The air-base battle was initially covered in detail at
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