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Past Tense?
Why does the article begin by referring to the subject in the past tense? Is it because the beliefs have lost their significance despite existing in words or otherwise?
MS2P (
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The article says, "The 2012 phenomenon was a range of eschatological beliefs that cataclysmic or transformative events would occur on or around 21 December 2012." It's past tense because those people who formerly held the mistaken and unscientific belief that world-changing events would occur on that date were forced to abandon those ideas when that did not in fact occur. So, the 2012 phenomenon is something that happened in the past, so to speak. —
Mudwater (
Talk) 18:39, 26 December 2020 (UTC)reply
If someone can tell me what I should do when suggesting these kinds of things, I would appreciate it. — Preceding
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Togekiss157 (
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contribs) 23:10, 12 February 2022 (UTC)reply
DoneTogekiss157, in the future, don't hesitate to make that type of change yourself. --
McSly (
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Featured article
This article was promoted to featured before the date it talks about. I think it should get some re-assessment.
PhotographyEdits (
talk) 12:50, 3 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Featured article review is an established process on Wikipedia. If you feel it needs to be reassessed, then nominate it. Spaking as the original nominator and one with quite a few successful FAs to my name, I would say that we adequately addressed the events of the day. Serendipodous 13:31, 3 July 2023 (UTC)reply
citation no. 61
Isn't ref no 61 (Arguelle 1975) incorrect? There are only 1987 and 1992 books of Arguelles listed in references section
Archiwald (
talk) 22:30, 21 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect header
It says that "21 December 2012" redirects here. So does "December 21, 2012". Please add that in, as I can't figure out how to do it myself.
IPs are people too🇺🇸🦅 13:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)reply
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Past Tense?
Why does the article begin by referring to the subject in the past tense? Is it because the beliefs have lost their significance despite existing in words or otherwise?
MS2P (
talk) 15:46, 26 December 2020 (UTC)reply
The article says, "The 2012 phenomenon was a range of eschatological beliefs that cataclysmic or transformative events would occur on or around 21 December 2012." It's past tense because those people who formerly held the mistaken and unscientific belief that world-changing events would occur on that date were forced to abandon those ideas when that did not in fact occur. So, the 2012 phenomenon is something that happened in the past, so to speak. —
Mudwater (
Talk) 18:39, 26 December 2020 (UTC)reply
If someone can tell me what I should do when suggesting these kinds of things, I would appreciate it. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Togekiss157 (
talk •
contribs) 23:10, 12 February 2022 (UTC)reply
DoneTogekiss157, in the future, don't hesitate to make that type of change yourself. --
McSly (
talk) 00:05, 13 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Featured article
This article was promoted to featured before the date it talks about. I think it should get some re-assessment.
PhotographyEdits (
talk) 12:50, 3 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Featured article review is an established process on Wikipedia. If you feel it needs to be reassessed, then nominate it. Spaking as the original nominator and one with quite a few successful FAs to my name, I would say that we adequately addressed the events of the day. Serendipodous 13:31, 3 July 2023 (UTC)reply
citation no. 61
Isn't ref no 61 (Arguelle 1975) incorrect? There are only 1987 and 1992 books of Arguelles listed in references section
Archiwald (
talk) 22:30, 21 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect header
It says that "21 December 2012" redirects here. So does "December 21, 2012". Please add that in, as I can't figure out how to do it myself.
IPs are people too🇺🇸🦅 13:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)reply
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Done
Togekiss157, in the future, don't hesitate to make that type of change yourself. --
McSly (
talk) 00:05, 13 February 2022 (UTC)