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More info about this is available at Dr. Jeff Masters' wunderground blog, suggest citing as it has good historical context. see http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/article.html?entrynum=1815 Enviropearson ( talk) 17:56, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Combine with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_New_England_tornado_outbreak — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.107.224.167 ( talk) 00:40, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
As mentioned on the previous article which was merged here, a lot of information will have to wait until the surveys come out. There is not a lot of details. It is also likely more tornadoes will be found. BTW, the tornadoes in California and the Plains are NOT part of the outbreak and do not belong in this article. CrazyC83 ( talk) 03:02, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I mentioned it briefly at Talk:2011_New_England_tornado_outbreak, but it deserves repeating that this article needs free images. A targeted search on Flickr ( http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=tornado+-joplin&l=commderiv&d=taken-20110530-20110601&ct=0&mt=all&adv=1) turns up no really usable content at the time of this writing. If anyone reading this within the next week or so lives in any of the hard-hit areas, please consider taking some photos of the damage. Emw ( talk) 03:15, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Apparently there were some weak tornadoes in the backcountry of Maine, if they are surveyed and found to be tornadoes tomorrow then the name will no longer be acceptable. - Marcusmax( speak) 03:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't have time to do the research right now, but the death toll as reported and repeated countless times last night, including by Govenor Patrick is incorrect. There were NO deaths reported in Westfield, which Westfield Mayor Knapik stated on broadcast media last night. As of last night (6/1/11) there were two reported deaths; the vehicle accident in West Springfield and one person killed in Brimfield. This morning, a new report: a mother was killed protecting her 15-year-old daughter in a bathtub in their home in West Springfield. So as of 1:00p on 6/2/11, the death toll stands at 3. http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/mass-digs-out-after-964855.html Mmpartee ( talk) 17:40, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
The National weather service has issued an update 3 tornados were confirmed one EF3 and two EF1's [1] - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Is there precedent to indicate the number of tornadoes reported? From what I've seen on other articles, it should only be tornadoes confirmed (the reported number is inflated because the SPC counts reports, and longer tornadoes would receive multiple reports as the tornado moves along). Inks.LWC ( talk) 02:43, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
The list says 4 are confirmed, according to the NWS, that is not true. http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=0&highlight=off&issuedby=BOX&product=PNS
The one that touched down in Westfield was an EF3 and made a path all the way to Charlton. The other two where EF1s, in Wilbraham and North Brimfield. THis is prelim data they say, but most reported where funnel clouds for exaple, at this page http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=0&highlight=off&issuedby=BOX&product=LSR Barnes Municipal Airport said they saw a Funnel cloud touchdown, as did I because I live right across the street from it. The EF3 was one half mile wide when it reached Brimfield and had max wind speeds of 160mph. The first link has all the observationist's info, and the third one is all the reports via spotters, amateur and ham radio operators/law enforcement/trained spotters. 76.127.226.118 ( talk) 18:31, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I meant the list on the site, this one, says there are 7, NWS says three, so Only those three confirmed should be listed. 76.127.226.118 ( talk) 00:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
The accuracy of the information here needs to be checked. As a resident of Western Ma, I've been listening to the reports. The tornado touchdown in the Wilbraham area did much more damage than treetops. There are people without homes. Also Charleton was never mentioned as a touchdown location. Also the one listed as an EF3 is actually more than one tornado. The information that is cited in the posting above should be headed: * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA.* — Preceding unsigned comment added by CJD1965 ( talk • contribs) 12:59, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
While we're topic, what was the second event in Sturbridge? There was a reporter from WCVB who was talking about seeing a funnel cloud and described it in detail and I see that it was erased here. I know the National Weather Service didn't say anything about it, but what have others said about this event? Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 20:26, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Where is the information that there were 3 deaths coming from? Both the SPC's preliminary storm report, and the local forecast office are indicating there were 4 deaths. Inks.LWC ( talk) 06:13, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
The speed at which this article has expanded has frankly amazed me. After realizing that this is essentially a B-Class article, I wondered if it would be best to attempt expanding this to Good Article material. We would need to create sections for the other tornados which don't presently have any information on them but otherwise this article is pretty good and just needs tweaking to reach that stage. I figured it would be best to propose it now while activity here is rather high and interest also is in the same area, but I would like to see of what others think of this idea as well. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 15:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I know this was a disaster to a populated area that doesn't experience tornadoes much, but please keep a level head when editing. From a cursory glance this article reads more like a newspaper article than an encyclopedia entry, complete with exaggerations, half-truths, and other misinformation just to make an already bad disaster seem worse than it actually was. I'm going to try to bring this article up to snuff, but it does not deserve a B-class rating yet, IMHO.- RunningOnBrains( talk) 18:46, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm somewhat surprised that this article still lists the tornado that occurred southwest of Solon, Maine is still listed as unrated. Was this simply because someone forgot to update the page or is there another reason? I've also noted that this tornado is not mentioned in the List of United States tornadoes in June 2011. TornadoLGS ( talk) 04:30, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
I thought you should know the NOAA official page has this officially called the "2011 Massachusetts Tornado Outbreak". Maybe the editors of this page should follow along with what the official name is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.88.10 ( talk) 02:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Contrary to statements made by other agencies that claim warnings were issued one minute before the tornado touched down, I can tell you as a resident of the area where it first formed that this is inaccurate. I am from the Feeding Hills section of agawam, near the Munger Hill section where the tornado first touched down and am a trained Skywarn spotter. I had just came home from work on rt 75 as the funnel cloud and damaging winds entered the area (approx 1/2 mile from where the funnel cloud crossed on rt 75)and the telephone poles were swaying and wires whipping, trees downed and shortly after, the tornado lifted. at that point there were no warnings at all, and none were postested until it had reformed in West Springfield, crossing the river; and the first warning occured when it was in the sixteen acres area. We were totaly unprepared for this and did not have the proper tools in place to issue such warnings. So if there is anyone out there that says they were issued one minute before the actual event, they are providing incorrect information.
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More info about this is available at Dr. Jeff Masters' wunderground blog, suggest citing as it has good historical context. see http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/article.html?entrynum=1815 Enviropearson ( talk) 17:56, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Combine with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_New_England_tornado_outbreak — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.107.224.167 ( talk) 00:40, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
As mentioned on the previous article which was merged here, a lot of information will have to wait until the surveys come out. There is not a lot of details. It is also likely more tornadoes will be found. BTW, the tornadoes in California and the Plains are NOT part of the outbreak and do not belong in this article. CrazyC83 ( talk) 03:02, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I mentioned it briefly at Talk:2011_New_England_tornado_outbreak, but it deserves repeating that this article needs free images. A targeted search on Flickr ( http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=tornado+-joplin&l=commderiv&d=taken-20110530-20110601&ct=0&mt=all&adv=1) turns up no really usable content at the time of this writing. If anyone reading this within the next week or so lives in any of the hard-hit areas, please consider taking some photos of the damage. Emw ( talk) 03:15, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Apparently there were some weak tornadoes in the backcountry of Maine, if they are surveyed and found to be tornadoes tomorrow then the name will no longer be acceptable. - Marcusmax( speak) 03:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't have time to do the research right now, but the death toll as reported and repeated countless times last night, including by Govenor Patrick is incorrect. There were NO deaths reported in Westfield, which Westfield Mayor Knapik stated on broadcast media last night. As of last night (6/1/11) there were two reported deaths; the vehicle accident in West Springfield and one person killed in Brimfield. This morning, a new report: a mother was killed protecting her 15-year-old daughter in a bathtub in their home in West Springfield. So as of 1:00p on 6/2/11, the death toll stands at 3. http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/mass-digs-out-after-964855.html Mmpartee ( talk) 17:40, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
The National weather service has issued an update 3 tornados were confirmed one EF3 and two EF1's [1] - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Is there precedent to indicate the number of tornadoes reported? From what I've seen on other articles, it should only be tornadoes confirmed (the reported number is inflated because the SPC counts reports, and longer tornadoes would receive multiple reports as the tornado moves along). Inks.LWC ( talk) 02:43, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
The list says 4 are confirmed, according to the NWS, that is not true. http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=0&highlight=off&issuedby=BOX&product=PNS
The one that touched down in Westfield was an EF3 and made a path all the way to Charlton. The other two where EF1s, in Wilbraham and North Brimfield. THis is prelim data they say, but most reported where funnel clouds for exaple, at this page http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=0&highlight=off&issuedby=BOX&product=LSR Barnes Municipal Airport said they saw a Funnel cloud touchdown, as did I because I live right across the street from it. The EF3 was one half mile wide when it reached Brimfield and had max wind speeds of 160mph. The first link has all the observationist's info, and the third one is all the reports via spotters, amateur and ham radio operators/law enforcement/trained spotters. 76.127.226.118 ( talk) 18:31, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I meant the list on the site, this one, says there are 7, NWS says three, so Only those three confirmed should be listed. 76.127.226.118 ( talk) 00:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
The accuracy of the information here needs to be checked. As a resident of Western Ma, I've been listening to the reports. The tornado touchdown in the Wilbraham area did much more damage than treetops. There are people without homes. Also Charleton was never mentioned as a touchdown location. Also the one listed as an EF3 is actually more than one tornado. The information that is cited in the posting above should be headed: * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA.* — Preceding unsigned comment added by CJD1965 ( talk • contribs) 12:59, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
While we're topic, what was the second event in Sturbridge? There was a reporter from WCVB who was talking about seeing a funnel cloud and described it in detail and I see that it was erased here. I know the National Weather Service didn't say anything about it, but what have others said about this event? Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 20:26, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Where is the information that there were 3 deaths coming from? Both the SPC's preliminary storm report, and the local forecast office are indicating there were 4 deaths. Inks.LWC ( talk) 06:13, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
The speed at which this article has expanded has frankly amazed me. After realizing that this is essentially a B-Class article, I wondered if it would be best to attempt expanding this to Good Article material. We would need to create sections for the other tornados which don't presently have any information on them but otherwise this article is pretty good and just needs tweaking to reach that stage. I figured it would be best to propose it now while activity here is rather high and interest also is in the same area, but I would like to see of what others think of this idea as well. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 15:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I know this was a disaster to a populated area that doesn't experience tornadoes much, but please keep a level head when editing. From a cursory glance this article reads more like a newspaper article than an encyclopedia entry, complete with exaggerations, half-truths, and other misinformation just to make an already bad disaster seem worse than it actually was. I'm going to try to bring this article up to snuff, but it does not deserve a B-class rating yet, IMHO.- RunningOnBrains( talk) 18:46, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm somewhat surprised that this article still lists the tornado that occurred southwest of Solon, Maine is still listed as unrated. Was this simply because someone forgot to update the page or is there another reason? I've also noted that this tornado is not mentioned in the List of United States tornadoes in June 2011. TornadoLGS ( talk) 04:30, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
I thought you should know the NOAA official page has this officially called the "2011 Massachusetts Tornado Outbreak". Maybe the editors of this page should follow along with what the official name is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.88.10 ( talk) 02:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Contrary to statements made by other agencies that claim warnings were issued one minute before the tornado touched down, I can tell you as a resident of the area where it first formed that this is inaccurate. I am from the Feeding Hills section of agawam, near the Munger Hill section where the tornado first touched down and am a trained Skywarn spotter. I had just came home from work on rt 75 as the funnel cloud and damaging winds entered the area (approx 1/2 mile from where the funnel cloud crossed on rt 75)and the telephone poles were swaying and wires whipping, trees downed and shortly after, the tornado lifted. at that point there were no warnings at all, and none were postested until it had reformed in West Springfield, crossing the river; and the first warning occured when it was in the sixteen acres area. We were totaly unprepared for this and did not have the proper tools in place to issue such warnings. So if there is anyone out there that says they were issued one minute before the actual event, they are providing incorrect information.
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