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Wikipedia is not a news site; it's an encyclopedia. Don't both with the results until the final ones are given.-- Bedford ( talk) 02:15, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
There's the county convention on March 15th, which I'll be attending as a bystander. Something could be mentioned about this.
Also, there appear to be vote totals at CNN.com for Iowa. This isn't the first time that the media have got it wrong, only to be corrected later. Just looking at the Linn County results at CNN, it definitely looks like a vote total. I'm pretty sure that these are the sign in sheet totals: when people attended the caucus on Jan 4th, everyone was required to sign in with their name, address, and mark who they supported.
It makes sense. The delegate totals were called in (there were 10 delegates at my precinct, 360+ people). The sign in sheets would take quite a while to count.
I'd be willing do sum the data from CNN in a spreadsheet and/or find the results somewhere else so that we could have a popular vote total.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#val=IA
C. Nelson ( talk) 04:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
How are the delegates alloted calculated? If it is a percentage from the 57 total delegates Obama should have 22 delegates, not 16; and 17 for Clinton and Edwards. Is it not 57 delegates? Is there a different way to calculate, CNN says we should scrap the ones with less than 15%, done that... changes nothing. Also, if my calculations are righ(they are rounded, since I can't think of a way to send 0.45 of a delegate) what happens to the 1 delegate that is not alloted to anybody because of the rounding. I think this is a important thing to elucidate in this and other related articles Chico ( talk) 05:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
the results should be placed at the top so that the reader doesn't have to scroll down to find them. Kingturtle ( talk) 10:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not much of a Wikipedia editor, so I thought I'd bring my issue up here rather than make a change immediately. The first paragraph states:
Of the eight major Democratic Presidential candidates, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois received the most support from Iowa Democratic caucus-attendees, making him the first person of African descent of any party to carry the caucus.
I understand it can be a touchy issue, but black American or African American would work better than person of African descent. It's generally accepted (especially by evolutionary biologists) that all humans are of African descent. The Wikipedia entry for Barack Obama describes him as African American, so I think that should be used here as well. -- Sdcrym ( talk) 21:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
This article is about a subject which is (technically) currently on-going and thus meets one of the Quick Fail Criteria. Please re-nominate when the event in question is concluded. -- jackturner3 ( talk) 14:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
It would seem Obama has taken some of Edwards delegates. I've expressed this by bracketing the old delegate counts and adding a note below the table. Andareed ( talk) 00:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
What happened to the 2,501st state delegate? The total for the first contest is 2,501 but for the second one it is 2,500. – Zntrip 04:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
The District Results Total percent (by adding Obama + Clinton + Edwards) doesn't come close to 100%. Either there's a line missing (uncommited?) or else some of the results aren't in yet. Jon ( talk) 18:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Irrelevant and dated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.158.54 ( talk) 17:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
2008 Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
January 10, 2008. The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that although
Hillary Clinton has fewer delegates than
John Edwards to the state convention of the
2008 Iowa Democratic Caucuses, she would receive one more to the national convention? | |||||||||||||
Current status: Former good article nominee |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
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Wikipedia is not a news site; it's an encyclopedia. Don't both with the results until the final ones are given.-- Bedford ( talk) 02:15, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
There's the county convention on March 15th, which I'll be attending as a bystander. Something could be mentioned about this.
Also, there appear to be vote totals at CNN.com for Iowa. This isn't the first time that the media have got it wrong, only to be corrected later. Just looking at the Linn County results at CNN, it definitely looks like a vote total. I'm pretty sure that these are the sign in sheet totals: when people attended the caucus on Jan 4th, everyone was required to sign in with their name, address, and mark who they supported.
It makes sense. The delegate totals were called in (there were 10 delegates at my precinct, 360+ people). The sign in sheets would take quite a while to count.
I'd be willing do sum the data from CNN in a spreadsheet and/or find the results somewhere else so that we could have a popular vote total.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#val=IA
C. Nelson ( talk) 04:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
How are the delegates alloted calculated? If it is a percentage from the 57 total delegates Obama should have 22 delegates, not 16; and 17 for Clinton and Edwards. Is it not 57 delegates? Is there a different way to calculate, CNN says we should scrap the ones with less than 15%, done that... changes nothing. Also, if my calculations are righ(they are rounded, since I can't think of a way to send 0.45 of a delegate) what happens to the 1 delegate that is not alloted to anybody because of the rounding. I think this is a important thing to elucidate in this and other related articles Chico ( talk) 05:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
the results should be placed at the top so that the reader doesn't have to scroll down to find them. Kingturtle ( talk) 10:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not much of a Wikipedia editor, so I thought I'd bring my issue up here rather than make a change immediately. The first paragraph states:
Of the eight major Democratic Presidential candidates, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois received the most support from Iowa Democratic caucus-attendees, making him the first person of African descent of any party to carry the caucus.
I understand it can be a touchy issue, but black American or African American would work better than person of African descent. It's generally accepted (especially by evolutionary biologists) that all humans are of African descent. The Wikipedia entry for Barack Obama describes him as African American, so I think that should be used here as well. -- Sdcrym ( talk) 21:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
This article is about a subject which is (technically) currently on-going and thus meets one of the Quick Fail Criteria. Please re-nominate when the event in question is concluded. -- jackturner3 ( talk) 14:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
It would seem Obama has taken some of Edwards delegates. I've expressed this by bracketing the old delegate counts and adding a note below the table. Andareed ( talk) 00:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
What happened to the 2,501st state delegate? The total for the first contest is 2,501 but for the second one it is 2,500. – Zntrip 04:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
The District Results Total percent (by adding Obama + Clinton + Edwards) doesn't come close to 100%. Either there's a line missing (uncommited?) or else some of the results aren't in yet. Jon ( talk) 18:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Irrelevant and dated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.158.54 ( talk) 17:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)