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"British Katrina"

The last line of the lead section states that:

The term "British Katrina" has been used to describe the floods.

The reference for this is a very small part of a long discussion article by a Washington Post writer. The only other use of the phrase that I can find (in this context) is in this web-board discussion. I live along the River Severn, though a bit upstream from the worst-affected areas, and I think it's misleading to imply - as the above line does - that the phrase was in anything approaching common use. Actually, I didn't hear it once during the floods themselves! Loganberry ( Talk) 16:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC) reply

I agree with Loganberry. The phrase is difficult to justify: Katrina killed 1,800 people and cost over $80 billion USD, but the UK floods killed in the low teens and cost ~$4 billion USD. A quick google check throws up very few uses of the term. If nobody registers a strong objection, I will remove the reference tomorrow. Regards, Anameofmyveryown 22:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC). reply

2000

It's a pity that the floods in 2000 ( [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]) weren't documented on Wikipedia as well as this article for 2007. Jooler 09:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC) reply

Probably because Wikipedia didn't exist yet. Digifiend ( talk) 14:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC) reply

GA Nomination

Due to the proseline and sourcing issues, I have to fail the GA. It could also use a timeline. CrazyC83 02:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Putting information which is more suited to a tabular format into prose would have been stupid. I'm glad that the prosify banner was ignored over the last 5 years, and I've now removed it. 213.246.83.13 ( talk) 15:05, 29 August 2012 (UTC) reply

Sourcing issues

I've been at a loose end and have attempted to do some work cleaning up the identified missing sources. Firstly, I hope I've not offended anyone in doing so. Secondly, I'm a little unsure as to sourcing this piece of information :

'and the Met Office at RAF Leeming recorded 69.6 mm (2.7 in) in a 24 hour period,{{Fact|date=June 2007}'

It's clear that the met office or BADC (which retains an archive of met office data) will have the required facts. However, the met office will only send out the data via email when subjected to appropriate social engineering and BADC requires you to log in for access. In the interests of cleaning up the current article, I've moved it here for now until resolving on how to proceed with it.

Any suggestions? 88.212.174.4 05:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC) reply

It would be good to add mention/references to the two major reports that have recently appeared on these events ... and one or both may contain factual information of the above type, for which they can be used as a source. Reports are : "Review of 2007 summer floods" by the EA, ( http://publications.environment-agency.gov.uk/epages/eapublications.storefront/47a84ec4020a0a28273fc0a802960646/Product/View/GEHO1107BNMI&2DE&2DE), and the "Pitt review" ( http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/thepittreview/interim_report.aspx) both dated December 2007. Melcombe ( talk) 11:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC) reply

...also, should the whole page be renamed to refer to "summer floods" as the above reports may indicate that the event is best known as the 2007 summer floods. Melcombe ( talk) 11:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Photo of York

York wasn't flooded in 2007. If the photo was taken in York, it's from the floods of 2000 Thewiltog 19:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC) reply

Maps

Why, why, why are there two versions of every map? It's just entirely confusing - surely we should stick to the present-day counties for this? Vashti ( talk) 01:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC) reply

Because one shows the most popularly known geography and the other shows the relevant local authorities who had to handle the situation. Timrollpickering ( talk) 15:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC) reply

Face of Flooding

This strikes me as a very peculiar title for this part of the article. As it's almost entirely concerned with the meteorology behind the floods surely something like Meterorological background or Meteorological factors would be a better title for it. Yorkshiresky ( talk) 10:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC) reply

Minor errors

Reference 153 should now be http://archive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/pittreview/thepittreview/interim_report.html

I cant work out how to edit it in, sorry. DavidLerner ( talk) 15:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC) reply

 Done I have changed the reference for you, thanks for letting us know. Keith D ( talk) 22:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC) reply

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Change After to Aftermath?

Hi, I think we should change the title of the section After to Aftermath. I think Aftermath is more formal and is more descriptive, whereas After sounds a bit like a news report. Thanks, RainCity471 report my errors list of failures 19:43, 6 September 2013 (UTC) reply

 Done Changed to Aftermath. -- 89.207.213.125 ( talk) 09:31, 11 March 2016 (UTC) reply

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Former featured article candidate2007 United Kingdom floods is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination failed. For older candidates, please check the archive.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 14, 2007 Good article nomineeNot listed
April 16, 2008 Featured article candidateNot promoted
Current status: Former featured article candidate

10 August

The talk page for this topic up to 9 August 2007 has been archived here. Please commence new threads below.

"British Katrina"

The last line of the lead section states that:

The term "British Katrina" has been used to describe the floods.

The reference for this is a very small part of a long discussion article by a Washington Post writer. The only other use of the phrase that I can find (in this context) is in this web-board discussion. I live along the River Severn, though a bit upstream from the worst-affected areas, and I think it's misleading to imply - as the above line does - that the phrase was in anything approaching common use. Actually, I didn't hear it once during the floods themselves! Loganberry ( Talk) 16:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC) reply

I agree with Loganberry. The phrase is difficult to justify: Katrina killed 1,800 people and cost over $80 billion USD, but the UK floods killed in the low teens and cost ~$4 billion USD. A quick google check throws up very few uses of the term. If nobody registers a strong objection, I will remove the reference tomorrow. Regards, Anameofmyveryown 22:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC). reply

2000

It's a pity that the floods in 2000 ( [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]) weren't documented on Wikipedia as well as this article for 2007. Jooler 09:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC) reply

Probably because Wikipedia didn't exist yet. Digifiend ( talk) 14:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC) reply

GA Nomination

Due to the proseline and sourcing issues, I have to fail the GA. It could also use a timeline. CrazyC83 02:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Putting information which is more suited to a tabular format into prose would have been stupid. I'm glad that the prosify banner was ignored over the last 5 years, and I've now removed it. 213.246.83.13 ( talk) 15:05, 29 August 2012 (UTC) reply

Sourcing issues

I've been at a loose end and have attempted to do some work cleaning up the identified missing sources. Firstly, I hope I've not offended anyone in doing so. Secondly, I'm a little unsure as to sourcing this piece of information :

'and the Met Office at RAF Leeming recorded 69.6 mm (2.7 in) in a 24 hour period,{{Fact|date=June 2007}'

It's clear that the met office or BADC (which retains an archive of met office data) will have the required facts. However, the met office will only send out the data via email when subjected to appropriate social engineering and BADC requires you to log in for access. In the interests of cleaning up the current article, I've moved it here for now until resolving on how to proceed with it.

Any suggestions? 88.212.174.4 05:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC) reply

It would be good to add mention/references to the two major reports that have recently appeared on these events ... and one or both may contain factual information of the above type, for which they can be used as a source. Reports are : "Review of 2007 summer floods" by the EA, ( http://publications.environment-agency.gov.uk/epages/eapublications.storefront/47a84ec4020a0a28273fc0a802960646/Product/View/GEHO1107BNMI&2DE&2DE), and the "Pitt review" ( http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/thepittreview/interim_report.aspx) both dated December 2007. Melcombe ( talk) 11:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC) reply

...also, should the whole page be renamed to refer to "summer floods" as the above reports may indicate that the event is best known as the 2007 summer floods. Melcombe ( talk) 11:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Photo of York

York wasn't flooded in 2007. If the photo was taken in York, it's from the floods of 2000 Thewiltog 19:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC) reply

Maps

Why, why, why are there two versions of every map? It's just entirely confusing - surely we should stick to the present-day counties for this? Vashti ( talk) 01:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC) reply

Because one shows the most popularly known geography and the other shows the relevant local authorities who had to handle the situation. Timrollpickering ( talk) 15:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC) reply

Face of Flooding

This strikes me as a very peculiar title for this part of the article. As it's almost entirely concerned with the meteorology behind the floods surely something like Meterorological background or Meteorological factors would be a better title for it. Yorkshiresky ( talk) 10:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC) reply

Minor errors

Reference 153 should now be http://archive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/pittreview/thepittreview/interim_report.html

I cant work out how to edit it in, sorry. DavidLerner ( talk) 15:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC) reply

 Done I have changed the reference for you, thanks for letting us know. Keith D ( talk) 22:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC) reply

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Hi, I think we should change the title of the section After to Aftermath. I think Aftermath is more formal and is more descriptive, whereas After sounds a bit like a news report. Thanks, RainCity471 report my errors list of failures 19:43, 6 September 2013 (UTC) reply

 Done Changed to Aftermath. -- 89.207.213.125 ( talk) 09:31, 11 March 2016 (UTC) reply

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