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Can Any one Add clean Sheet table for EPL. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.118.128.252 ( talk) 09:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I can see that Umbro has been confirmed as Reading's sponsor next season but I can find no evidence for this on the net or on Reading's club site. Can we please see some confirmation. Ultrabeater 16:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
It appears the info may justhave been entered in the wrong column Chaza93 20:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Rid of this chat please too. ( Piyush90 19:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC))
Will officially be today (31 May) but on the adidas Liverpool site you can see on the preview that it's going to be a white shirt with a red outlining.
Match Table Added for Next Season  ¢нαzα93 11:26, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
For when the season starts should we have a 6 game form guide, like the one on the official website.
I've added the most comprehensive list I can manage. Htb50 16:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
As those of us who run supporter related sites know, it is illegal to post fixtures without a license from the FootballDataCo. I have removed the fixtures. Not because I agree with those SOBs, but because I don't want to see WP get sued. Jddphd 23:05, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Football Fixtures. Official fixture lists for all the major players.
PA Sport are the primary distributors of fixture lists for the English Premier League, The Football League, The Scottish Premier League and The Scottish League - acting on behalf of the leagues' agent - Football DataCo Ltd.
In this capacity, PA Sport administers the licensing of the fixtures from the leagues above. Anyone publishing fixtures in any form from these leagues must purchase and display a current Football DataCo license - which is only obtainable through PA Sport.
As an additional service, PA Sport offers a number of football fixture page-ready products to newspapers and other publications. Page-ready panels and full pages are available in three main formats and can be made in the customer's own dimensions and styles.
PA Sport provides fixtures on a day-to-day basis to national, regional newspapers in the UK and international publications. For clients who need more immediate updates we supply a fixtures feed that provides updates as soon as they are announced by the clubs and leagues themselves - vital information for web, mobile and betting clients.
For more information on obtaining a copyright licence to publish pre-season fixtures and the delivery of fixtures information please contact us.
Jddphd 23:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
In which case, shouldn't there be a line saying fixtures will be included when allowed by copyright law?
Answer to User:El-Nin09's question: The black squares, what I believe you mean the gray squares that are place in the row/column intersection of the same team, use the color code CCCCCC. I think this is a good color because is not to dark to take the attention from the score squares. The blue code is DFE7FF and the red code is FFDFDF. I hope I understood your question and this answer it. Regards.-- ClaudioMB 16:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
But, in all previous seasons they are not black, and we have never had consensus to change the table, and i would be willing to accept the colored result squares, as long as you are able to use HTML and WIKI coding to make the black "future fixture" squares white again. El- Nin 09 18:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm curious as to why the standings table is sortable. It is really an unnecessary function, and when things are sorted everything is thrown into disarray when it comes to place for Europe/relegation status (the table becomes broken, for lack of a better word). It may be easier to update the standings at the end of each game, but I can't see there being a need for it being sortable. -- Snojoe 18:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I changed it because in 1989 an earthquake changed the schedule of the baseball championship and delayed the games several days. Therefore, even if we think the season will end, it may not end at that date. Another example was the premature end of the 1994 baseball season. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Radio Guy ( talk • contribs) 03:22, August 20, 2007 (UTC).
OK we do not do branding on this page can Coca Cola please be removed El- Nin 09 18:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi guys. Before changes to the premier league season's page by new or unregistered users was taken away (why btw?), I added the purple intertoto qualification colour to the 6th place standing because I read somewhere that that's what happens (don't understand coding so copy pasted from another league's page). Now I can't fix it like I normally would and it looks stupid being out of place.
Long story short please fix the ugly table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bryn2587 ( talk • contribs) 20:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Just want to confirm one thing - it appears Deportivo la Coruna also have a Canterbury kit. Are we confident in saying the Portsmouth kit was first - if we are, can it be cited? 121.208.196.161 13:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I found it is very ridicious to put the goals scored outside 1 minute. Why don't we make the list into the top 10 fastest goals? Raymond Giggs 06:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you. That goals less than a minute is complete poppycock. I think that ridiculous thing should be removed. Crazywax ( talk) 22:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I think we should included all goal scoreres for the whole season and then at the end cut it back to the top ten as i feel it will be easier to update as all the scorers will be on there, and having it as we do we could miss a player out when he reaches the top ten, what do you think? MotorSportMCMXC 08:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I dont know if any one noticed but I was trying to find top scorers for each team, maybe you can add this. I tried looking at individual clubs but this information seems to be missed out, unless maybe its just me who thinks it is something that should be included. Please could you either add or make new section for top scorers for club. Thanks for the co-operation ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.137.76 ( talk) 01:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
premier league clubs do but this is info and should be here. just put top scorer for the club in the table next to the team with the goals in brackets. it has a significance, as you can see by the top ten scorers.. their teams didnt exactly finish at the bottom half
Is there anyway we can make the article so only users can edit it as it is really annoying with people messing up the table? MotorSportMCMXC 15:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Are the Golden Boot standings going to include assists? Most countries use assists to sort players with the same goal total. Currently last name is being used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.36.190.13 ( talk) 15:15, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I have placed several Citation needed tags on the article, because it just says things at the moment that may not be true, please find some sources, or i will remove the uncited stuff in 1 week, so next Tuesday (2nd Oct) El- Nin 09 18:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
OK well in that case i found some more lol El- Nin 09 18:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Piyush90, please remember that archiving is not about keeping material up-to-date. Talk pages are not articles - when the information in them is out of date, we don't remove the text, it remains there as a record of the discussions that have taken place. Though the first few points here are not relevant to the article anymore, they are evidence of user activity, can be referenced in debates in future on how to proceed, and exist to prove that such discussion has already taken place. The point of archiving, on the other hand, is to abbreviate pages which may pose problems in loading for users with slow internet connections. While approaching that point, this talk page does not yet really have enough information to be worth archiving. If your concern is with being able to see the latest talking points instantly, then I would point out that that is not what archiving is for, and that you can do this easiest by using the "end" button on your keyboard to instantly view the bottom of the page, or by using the menu to select the query that you are interested in. Please see WP:ARCHIVE on Wikipedia's policy on Archiving. Falastur2 21:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The German Bundesliga table traditionally notes the previous year's league winner, cup winner, relegated teams, etc (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu%C3%9Fball-Bundesliga_2007/08). Why isn't this done for the Premiereship? 69.231.199.194 19:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to propose managerial changes being presented in the form of a table as follows, but didn't want to just wade in and go ahead and make the edit unless other editors thought it was a good idea.
Team | Outgoing manager | Manner of departure | Date of vacancy | Replaced by | Date of appointment |
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Manchester City | Stuart Pearce | Sacked | 14 May 2007 [1] | Sven-Göran Eriksson | 6 July 2007 [2] |
Chelsea | José Mourinho | Mutual consent | 20 September 2007 [3] | Avram Grant | 20 September 2007 [3] |
Bolton Wanderers | Sammy Lee | Mutual consent | 17 October 2007 [4] | Gary Megson | 25 October 2007 [5] |
Tottenham Hotspur | Martin Jol | Sacked | 25 October 2007 [6] | Juande Ramos | 27 October 2007 [7] |
Wigan Athletic | Chris Hutchings | Sacked | 5 November 2007 [8] | Frank Barlow (caretaker) | 5 November 2007 [8] |
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This source, [1] shows that Rosicky's goal was actually timed at 95 mins. Also, seeing as the BBC just state the goal as 90, no matter how late it was scored, just a point. F 9 T 21:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I know that the League Table has an update date just underneath the table, but it's in footnote font, which virtually no casual reader will catch. It should be made abundantly clear to the average reader that the table is only current as of a certain date. Also, it should be pointed out in the "competition or relegation" column that the teams in colors have NOT been promoted or relegated, only that they are currently in those slots. Otherwise, the average reader will think that, for instance, the bottom three clubs in color have already been relegated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.89.187.178 ( talk) 23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Away kit is stated to be white with blue and black trim and third kit black - officially the "black" is "flint" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.76.28.176 ( talk) 09:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
When you do so, it makes a wrong listing. Can someone try to fix this? Lindberg47 ( talk) 00:30, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to make Tottenham's UEFA Cup berth indicated by a darker shade of yellow to indicate that they have clinched that birth by winning the Carling Cup? Also, pretty soon Derby County is going to be mathematically relegated. Would it be appropriate to darken their shade of red to indicate that they have already clinched that berth in the Championship next year? Grant.alpaugh ( talk) 06:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Help me please, How many yellow card has Emanuel Eboue (Arsenal) got in this season, involve all of the fixtures???—Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.71.143.105 ( talk) 14:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have any clue who has actually applied for the Intertoto? I know of Everton and Man City, and I read that seven clubs have applied, but I don't know the other five. Until then, it may be a little hard to accurately place the Intertoto thingy on the league table - I see it's been moved to Aston Villa in 7th, but I'm not sure at all whether that's justified... Falastur2 ( talk) 16:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
The 6th-placed team will only qualified if Tottenham finished fifth OR Portsmouth finished fifth (and as FA Cup winner with Cardiff City as the losing finalists)
The 7th-placed team will only qualified if both Tottenham and Portsmouth finished sixth or above and Portsmouth as FA Cup winner with Cardiff City as the losing finalists. Matthew_hk t c 19:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I think condition (b) of european qualification can now be removed. Although Portsmouth can overtake Everton for 5th place and Tottenham can finish 6th, these events cannot happen together as Tottenham cannot overtake Everton following this weekends results. This means 7th place will not get a UEFA cup place in any circumstances. Geordie 11:00, 9 April 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.129.249.111 ( talk)
Shouldn't the table say relegation to Championship, rather than relegated which makes it sound like it has already happened. Currently even Derby County can still escape the drop.
Since Tottenham classified for UEFA Cup because Carling Cup, I don't think that should be specified here in the Premier League table. -- ClaudioMB ( talk) 19:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
There has to be a way to indicate on the table that Derby has been relegated as it is impossible for them to finish higher than 18th. I suggest a darker shade of red or something. -- Grant . Alpaugh 06:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
As Cardiff City ineligible, if Cardiff City won, will the UEFA Cup ticket transfer to Portsmouth? Matthew_hk t c 02:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Adding pictures to this article will improve it. I suggest add pictures in 3 sections: Top scorers, Monthly awards and Stadia (like it was done here). For Top scorers, a picture of the top score player. For Monthly awards, a picture of managers and players with 2 or more awards. For stadia, a picture of the leader's stadium.-- ClaudioMB ( talk) 20:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Can we make the sortable table so that the sort box is moved to the side of the column label so that the table doesn't look so stupid. As it stands now the box is under the label and the top of the table is really thick and looks stupid. -- Grant . Alpaugh 23:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Why are Man City listed in the UEFA Cup teams? I know they had a chance through Fair Play, but isn't there a draw to be made later for those places, and surely the red card against Boro would go against them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.115.227 ( talk) 10:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I would question the reliability of the reference used to cite Manchester United's average attendance for this season. It says that the average is 75,642, but Manchester United's official stats website ( http://www.stretfordend.co.uk/) says that the average is 75,691. Personally, I'd be more inclined to believe the club's own statisticians than a third party, particularly as my own calculations gave an average of 75,690. – Pee Jay 08:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I do not believe that this article's infobox should be making reference to Manchester United having won 17 top-flight titles. By all means mention it as a trivia item, but this article is about the Premier League, a competition that Manchester United have only won 10 times. The Premier League was set up as an entirely separate entity from the Football League, so to include the two sets of records together is a factual inaccuracy. – Pee Jay 21:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
This article is not just about the Premier League. It is also about the top-flight (or is it top flight?) of English football. There is nothing untoward about putting both on there, with a break for clarity, and "17th top flight English league title" under "10th Premier League title." What is misleading or inappropriate about that. I agree that on one line it is too long, but broken into two lines like the European qualifications and whatnot, I don't see how this can't be included in the infobox. -- Grant . Alpaugh 19:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
It should be there - the Premier league is considered the continuation of top level (Level 1, see
English football league system) football by the FA; it effectively surplants the old First Division. t is continually refered to in the media as United's 17th title, see:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/12/2241385.htm
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/05/12/in-pictures-the-story-of-manchester-united-s-17th-title-89520-20415643/
http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/2008/05/09/sports/OUKSP-UK-SOCCER-ENGLAND-FAPL.php
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080511/sp_soccer_nm/soccer_england_fapl_dc
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=141490
EVEN..the FIFA website calls it the 17th:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=765249.html
.. and more if you stick the words into a search engine. It being the 17th title in total is also considered to be true by fans; especially since it places United only one behind Liverpool's 18 - see
Football records in England and
List of football clubs in England by major honours won for other examples where 17 titles is used. The correct term should be 10th Premier League Title, 17th at Level 1 in England or some variation thereof.
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ok, so in your 'opinion' it should be changed...any citations to back it up? you wish to go against FIFA, most of the media describing it as the 17th title and the fans of the club? english football did not start in 1992-93 - the Premier League is considered a continuation of the top level of English football - it is not merely 'incidental'. the terms 'Premier League' or whatever it's called and 'Level 1' are indistinguishable in the eyes of the FA, UEFA, FIFA and everyone else. if you want to remove any references to a 17th title, your arguement would require the editing of all other wikipedia articles pertaining to a difference between prem and old first division; start at Football records in England and List of football clubs in England by major honours won and go though the hundreds from there! further, it cant simply be omitted 'because it doesnt fit on someone's laptop(!)' - it's a widely recognised fact, so it should remain Jw2034 ( talk) 21:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm talking about the infobox. It should remain in both infobox and article; not just one or the other because your screen doesnt look pretty enough. Btw, while you're editing all the football records along the same arguement, you might want to change Liverpool's entry to '4 European Cups and 1 UEFA Champions League' - then try convincing your average 'we won it 5 times' koppite to support your edit! Jw2034 ( talk)
No, they are as 'distinct' as the old first division and the premier league - that's the point. I think you need to go away and read up a little more on football (before 1992) before you start editing articles; I'd advise your school library. For 'a fervent supporter of Manchester United F.C.', you're somewhat hesitant to celebrate and acknowledge all 17 (glorious) titles - perhaps you should add to Prawn sandwich brigade first Jw2034 ( talk) 22:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
regardless of brand, name or organisation, the premier league took the place and continues as the top tier of english football from the old first division in the eyes of the FA - who didnt only endose it, they set it up at Lancaster Gate - , UEFA, FIFA, the fans, the media and on Wikipedia. I suggest if you have issue with this you should start editing the hundreds of articles that use this fundamental premise or take it up at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. (oh dear, 'the competition that West Bromwich Albion F.C. won this season is the same competition that Leeds United A.F.C. won back in 1992'...where do I start...) Jw2034 ( talk) 22:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we reference the part that says Derby won a game? :D (Thought we could do with some humour) // Fi nns 19:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I think the talk page now is pretty long and heavy and need some attention, i have the proposal of archiving the talk page, i am open for comments on this. Kalivd ( talk) 15:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Would Avrams sacking make him the highest placed manager in PL history to be sacked? Something to add to the records if its true —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.143.79.252 ( talk) 13:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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Can Any one Add clean Sheet table for EPL. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.118.128.252 ( talk) 09:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I can see that Umbro has been confirmed as Reading's sponsor next season but I can find no evidence for this on the net or on Reading's club site. Can we please see some confirmation. Ultrabeater 16:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
It appears the info may justhave been entered in the wrong column Chaza93 20:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Rid of this chat please too. ( Piyush90 19:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC))
Will officially be today (31 May) but on the adidas Liverpool site you can see on the preview that it's going to be a white shirt with a red outlining.
Match Table Added for Next Season  ¢нαzα93 11:26, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
For when the season starts should we have a 6 game form guide, like the one on the official website.
I've added the most comprehensive list I can manage. Htb50 16:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
As those of us who run supporter related sites know, it is illegal to post fixtures without a license from the FootballDataCo. I have removed the fixtures. Not because I agree with those SOBs, but because I don't want to see WP get sued. Jddphd 23:05, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Football Fixtures. Official fixture lists for all the major players.
PA Sport are the primary distributors of fixture lists for the English Premier League, The Football League, The Scottish Premier League and The Scottish League - acting on behalf of the leagues' agent - Football DataCo Ltd.
In this capacity, PA Sport administers the licensing of the fixtures from the leagues above. Anyone publishing fixtures in any form from these leagues must purchase and display a current Football DataCo license - which is only obtainable through PA Sport.
As an additional service, PA Sport offers a number of football fixture page-ready products to newspapers and other publications. Page-ready panels and full pages are available in three main formats and can be made in the customer's own dimensions and styles.
PA Sport provides fixtures on a day-to-day basis to national, regional newspapers in the UK and international publications. For clients who need more immediate updates we supply a fixtures feed that provides updates as soon as they are announced by the clubs and leagues themselves - vital information for web, mobile and betting clients.
For more information on obtaining a copyright licence to publish pre-season fixtures and the delivery of fixtures information please contact us.
Jddphd 23:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
In which case, shouldn't there be a line saying fixtures will be included when allowed by copyright law?
Answer to User:El-Nin09's question: The black squares, what I believe you mean the gray squares that are place in the row/column intersection of the same team, use the color code CCCCCC. I think this is a good color because is not to dark to take the attention from the score squares. The blue code is DFE7FF and the red code is FFDFDF. I hope I understood your question and this answer it. Regards.-- ClaudioMB 16:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
But, in all previous seasons they are not black, and we have never had consensus to change the table, and i would be willing to accept the colored result squares, as long as you are able to use HTML and WIKI coding to make the black "future fixture" squares white again. El- Nin 09 18:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm curious as to why the standings table is sortable. It is really an unnecessary function, and when things are sorted everything is thrown into disarray when it comes to place for Europe/relegation status (the table becomes broken, for lack of a better word). It may be easier to update the standings at the end of each game, but I can't see there being a need for it being sortable. -- Snojoe 18:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I changed it because in 1989 an earthquake changed the schedule of the baseball championship and delayed the games several days. Therefore, even if we think the season will end, it may not end at that date. Another example was the premature end of the 1994 baseball season. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Radio Guy ( talk • contribs) 03:22, August 20, 2007 (UTC).
OK we do not do branding on this page can Coca Cola please be removed El- Nin 09 18:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi guys. Before changes to the premier league season's page by new or unregistered users was taken away (why btw?), I added the purple intertoto qualification colour to the 6th place standing because I read somewhere that that's what happens (don't understand coding so copy pasted from another league's page). Now I can't fix it like I normally would and it looks stupid being out of place.
Long story short please fix the ugly table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bryn2587 ( talk • contribs) 20:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Just want to confirm one thing - it appears Deportivo la Coruna also have a Canterbury kit. Are we confident in saying the Portsmouth kit was first - if we are, can it be cited? 121.208.196.161 13:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I found it is very ridicious to put the goals scored outside 1 minute. Why don't we make the list into the top 10 fastest goals? Raymond Giggs 06:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you. That goals less than a minute is complete poppycock. I think that ridiculous thing should be removed. Crazywax ( talk) 22:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I think we should included all goal scoreres for the whole season and then at the end cut it back to the top ten as i feel it will be easier to update as all the scorers will be on there, and having it as we do we could miss a player out when he reaches the top ten, what do you think? MotorSportMCMXC 08:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I dont know if any one noticed but I was trying to find top scorers for each team, maybe you can add this. I tried looking at individual clubs but this information seems to be missed out, unless maybe its just me who thinks it is something that should be included. Please could you either add or make new section for top scorers for club. Thanks for the co-operation ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.137.76 ( talk) 01:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
premier league clubs do but this is info and should be here. just put top scorer for the club in the table next to the team with the goals in brackets. it has a significance, as you can see by the top ten scorers.. their teams didnt exactly finish at the bottom half
Is there anyway we can make the article so only users can edit it as it is really annoying with people messing up the table? MotorSportMCMXC 15:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Are the Golden Boot standings going to include assists? Most countries use assists to sort players with the same goal total. Currently last name is being used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.36.190.13 ( talk) 15:15, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I have placed several Citation needed tags on the article, because it just says things at the moment that may not be true, please find some sources, or i will remove the uncited stuff in 1 week, so next Tuesday (2nd Oct) El- Nin 09 18:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
OK well in that case i found some more lol El- Nin 09 18:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Piyush90, please remember that archiving is not about keeping material up-to-date. Talk pages are not articles - when the information in them is out of date, we don't remove the text, it remains there as a record of the discussions that have taken place. Though the first few points here are not relevant to the article anymore, they are evidence of user activity, can be referenced in debates in future on how to proceed, and exist to prove that such discussion has already taken place. The point of archiving, on the other hand, is to abbreviate pages which may pose problems in loading for users with slow internet connections. While approaching that point, this talk page does not yet really have enough information to be worth archiving. If your concern is with being able to see the latest talking points instantly, then I would point out that that is not what archiving is for, and that you can do this easiest by using the "end" button on your keyboard to instantly view the bottom of the page, or by using the menu to select the query that you are interested in. Please see WP:ARCHIVE on Wikipedia's policy on Archiving. Falastur2 21:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The German Bundesliga table traditionally notes the previous year's league winner, cup winner, relegated teams, etc (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu%C3%9Fball-Bundesliga_2007/08). Why isn't this done for the Premiereship? 69.231.199.194 19:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to propose managerial changes being presented in the form of a table as follows, but didn't want to just wade in and go ahead and make the edit unless other editors thought it was a good idea.
Team | Outgoing manager | Manner of departure | Date of vacancy | Replaced by | Date of appointment |
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Manchester City | Stuart Pearce | Sacked | 14 May 2007 [1] | Sven-Göran Eriksson | 6 July 2007 [2] |
Chelsea | José Mourinho | Mutual consent | 20 September 2007 [3] | Avram Grant | 20 September 2007 [3] |
Bolton Wanderers | Sammy Lee | Mutual consent | 17 October 2007 [4] | Gary Megson | 25 October 2007 [5] |
Tottenham Hotspur | Martin Jol | Sacked | 25 October 2007 [6] | Juande Ramos | 27 October 2007 [7] |
Wigan Athletic | Chris Hutchings | Sacked | 5 November 2007 [8] | Frank Barlow (caretaker) | 5 November 2007 [8] |
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This source, [1] shows that Rosicky's goal was actually timed at 95 mins. Also, seeing as the BBC just state the goal as 90, no matter how late it was scored, just a point. F 9 T 21:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I know that the League Table has an update date just underneath the table, but it's in footnote font, which virtually no casual reader will catch. It should be made abundantly clear to the average reader that the table is only current as of a certain date. Also, it should be pointed out in the "competition or relegation" column that the teams in colors have NOT been promoted or relegated, only that they are currently in those slots. Otherwise, the average reader will think that, for instance, the bottom three clubs in color have already been relegated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.89.187.178 ( talk) 23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Away kit is stated to be white with blue and black trim and third kit black - officially the "black" is "flint" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.76.28.176 ( talk) 09:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
When you do so, it makes a wrong listing. Can someone try to fix this? Lindberg47 ( talk) 00:30, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to make Tottenham's UEFA Cup berth indicated by a darker shade of yellow to indicate that they have clinched that birth by winning the Carling Cup? Also, pretty soon Derby County is going to be mathematically relegated. Would it be appropriate to darken their shade of red to indicate that they have already clinched that berth in the Championship next year? Grant.alpaugh ( talk) 06:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Help me please, How many yellow card has Emanuel Eboue (Arsenal) got in this season, involve all of the fixtures???—Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.71.143.105 ( talk) 14:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have any clue who has actually applied for the Intertoto? I know of Everton and Man City, and I read that seven clubs have applied, but I don't know the other five. Until then, it may be a little hard to accurately place the Intertoto thingy on the league table - I see it's been moved to Aston Villa in 7th, but I'm not sure at all whether that's justified... Falastur2 ( talk) 16:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
The 6th-placed team will only qualified if Tottenham finished fifth OR Portsmouth finished fifth (and as FA Cup winner with Cardiff City as the losing finalists)
The 7th-placed team will only qualified if both Tottenham and Portsmouth finished sixth or above and Portsmouth as FA Cup winner with Cardiff City as the losing finalists. Matthew_hk t c 19:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I think condition (b) of european qualification can now be removed. Although Portsmouth can overtake Everton for 5th place and Tottenham can finish 6th, these events cannot happen together as Tottenham cannot overtake Everton following this weekends results. This means 7th place will not get a UEFA cup place in any circumstances. Geordie 11:00, 9 April 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.129.249.111 ( talk)
Shouldn't the table say relegation to Championship, rather than relegated which makes it sound like it has already happened. Currently even Derby County can still escape the drop.
Since Tottenham classified for UEFA Cup because Carling Cup, I don't think that should be specified here in the Premier League table. -- ClaudioMB ( talk) 19:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
There has to be a way to indicate on the table that Derby has been relegated as it is impossible for them to finish higher than 18th. I suggest a darker shade of red or something. -- Grant . Alpaugh 06:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
As Cardiff City ineligible, if Cardiff City won, will the UEFA Cup ticket transfer to Portsmouth? Matthew_hk t c 02:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Adding pictures to this article will improve it. I suggest add pictures in 3 sections: Top scorers, Monthly awards and Stadia (like it was done here). For Top scorers, a picture of the top score player. For Monthly awards, a picture of managers and players with 2 or more awards. For stadia, a picture of the leader's stadium.-- ClaudioMB ( talk) 20:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Can we make the sortable table so that the sort box is moved to the side of the column label so that the table doesn't look so stupid. As it stands now the box is under the label and the top of the table is really thick and looks stupid. -- Grant . Alpaugh 23:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Why are Man City listed in the UEFA Cup teams? I know they had a chance through Fair Play, but isn't there a draw to be made later for those places, and surely the red card against Boro would go against them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.115.227 ( talk) 10:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I would question the reliability of the reference used to cite Manchester United's average attendance for this season. It says that the average is 75,642, but Manchester United's official stats website ( http://www.stretfordend.co.uk/) says that the average is 75,691. Personally, I'd be more inclined to believe the club's own statisticians than a third party, particularly as my own calculations gave an average of 75,690. – Pee Jay 08:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I do not believe that this article's infobox should be making reference to Manchester United having won 17 top-flight titles. By all means mention it as a trivia item, but this article is about the Premier League, a competition that Manchester United have only won 10 times. The Premier League was set up as an entirely separate entity from the Football League, so to include the two sets of records together is a factual inaccuracy. – Pee Jay 21:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
This article is not just about the Premier League. It is also about the top-flight (or is it top flight?) of English football. There is nothing untoward about putting both on there, with a break for clarity, and "17th top flight English league title" under "10th Premier League title." What is misleading or inappropriate about that. I agree that on one line it is too long, but broken into two lines like the European qualifications and whatnot, I don't see how this can't be included in the infobox. -- Grant . Alpaugh 19:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
It should be there - the Premier league is considered the continuation of top level (Level 1, see
English football league system) football by the FA; it effectively surplants the old First Division. t is continually refered to in the media as United's 17th title, see:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/12/2241385.htm
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/05/12/in-pictures-the-story-of-manchester-united-s-17th-title-89520-20415643/
http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/2008/05/09/sports/OUKSP-UK-SOCCER-ENGLAND-FAPL.php
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080511/sp_soccer_nm/soccer_england_fapl_dc
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=141490
EVEN..the FIFA website calls it the 17th:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=765249.html
.. and more if you stick the words into a search engine. It being the 17th title in total is also considered to be true by fans; especially since it places United only one behind Liverpool's 18 - see
Football records in England and
List of football clubs in England by major honours won for other examples where 17 titles is used. The correct term should be 10th Premier League Title, 17th at Level 1 in England or some variation thereof.
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ok, so in your 'opinion' it should be changed...any citations to back it up? you wish to go against FIFA, most of the media describing it as the 17th title and the fans of the club? english football did not start in 1992-93 - the Premier League is considered a continuation of the top level of English football - it is not merely 'incidental'. the terms 'Premier League' or whatever it's called and 'Level 1' are indistinguishable in the eyes of the FA, UEFA, FIFA and everyone else. if you want to remove any references to a 17th title, your arguement would require the editing of all other wikipedia articles pertaining to a difference between prem and old first division; start at Football records in England and List of football clubs in England by major honours won and go though the hundreds from there! further, it cant simply be omitted 'because it doesnt fit on someone's laptop(!)' - it's a widely recognised fact, so it should remain Jw2034 ( talk) 21:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm talking about the infobox. It should remain in both infobox and article; not just one or the other because your screen doesnt look pretty enough. Btw, while you're editing all the football records along the same arguement, you might want to change Liverpool's entry to '4 European Cups and 1 UEFA Champions League' - then try convincing your average 'we won it 5 times' koppite to support your edit! Jw2034 ( talk)
No, they are as 'distinct' as the old first division and the premier league - that's the point. I think you need to go away and read up a little more on football (before 1992) before you start editing articles; I'd advise your school library. For 'a fervent supporter of Manchester United F.C.', you're somewhat hesitant to celebrate and acknowledge all 17 (glorious) titles - perhaps you should add to Prawn sandwich brigade first Jw2034 ( talk) 22:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
regardless of brand, name or organisation, the premier league took the place and continues as the top tier of english football from the old first division in the eyes of the FA - who didnt only endose it, they set it up at Lancaster Gate - , UEFA, FIFA, the fans, the media and on Wikipedia. I suggest if you have issue with this you should start editing the hundreds of articles that use this fundamental premise or take it up at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. (oh dear, 'the competition that West Bromwich Albion F.C. won this season is the same competition that Leeds United A.F.C. won back in 1992'...where do I start...) Jw2034 ( talk) 22:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we reference the part that says Derby won a game? :D (Thought we could do with some humour) // Fi nns 19:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I think the talk page now is pretty long and heavy and need some attention, i have the proposal of archiving the talk page, i am open for comments on this. Kalivd ( talk) 15:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Would Avrams sacking make him the highest placed manager in PL history to be sacked? Something to add to the records if its true —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.143.79.252 ( talk) 13:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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