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July 2006 Cuban transfer a power seems a bit odd, considering that most of the real action is going to take place during August 2006. Perhaps just 2006 Cuban transfer of power will work. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 14:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
<- (unindent) It's only linked from four articles, as far as I can see. And one of those articles is Fidel Castro. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 16:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Would'nt it be better if it was 2006 Cuban transfer of presidential duties, because the title is extremely vague Q5 den 07:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
The Ros-Lehtinen section (apart from strangely allowing her to speak for the White House) said that Cuba must meet the "Heisenberg law" requirements. Other than the uncertainty principle I'm unable to find anything corroborating with this -- presumably she was speaking of the 1992 Cuban Democracy Act. If this is familiar to anyone, feel free to explicate, but I think it was just mistranscribed (some of the other writing suggested the editor did not have English as a first language). -- Dhartung | Talk 15:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Cuba has also been violating the law of Gravity and the Kepler Law :D
Here are some rumors I heard from a forum.
"I talked to some people in Cuba and apparently there's been some sort of mobilization of the CDRs.
They say Fidel will be back in a few weeks, and wants to celebrate his birthday then, with the Cuban people..
The U.S. might try to pull some sort of shit in the mean time, and so we need to alert.
The weird thing is that for the surgery he's getting, recovery is only a day or two (at most).. this could mean a few things.. like that he wants to lay back for two or three weeks to see how things function.. in preperation for the future when he won't be around any more."
"I'm hearing things that don't sound so good.. Apparently, "Granma" hasn't come out today, all flights in and out of Cuba are canceled, all Hotels are closed, police and military patrols are going on, and the Politburo has taken control of things temporarily. I'm also hearing that Fidel is in a medically induced coma."
"According to sources in the Island, the political climate in La Habana is one of "either a coup or a funeral." Hotels shut down because they are under government orders to reserve the rooms for them; meetings in all ministries with military officers presence; flights canceled and police and military patrols in certain areas of the capital not ussually showing this kind of presence...
Fidel is in a medically induced coma as of now...
The rumor mill is working overtime. However, according to "serious" people on the Island (everyone is trotting the line of their favorites) Fidel is dead and people are starting to line up either behind Raul or Lage. Alarcon is said to be very, very upset because he wasn't even mentioned for anything...
Perez Roque and Valenciaga are said to be playing a big role now as intermediates, really in favor of one of the candidates...
The State Council has been bypassed for the Politburo, an unexpected move that means Raul is firmly in power..."
I'm not sure what to make of it all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.134.105.54 ( talk • contribs) 16:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I think this is a significant enough event to merit retaining the article, which has a good amount of interesting, relevant and cited material. TransUtopian 07:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
America again started to talk about democracy and human rights. I think they don't know that the Human Development Index of Cuba is higher than USA's HDI. America looks like a total comedy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.224.182.162 ( talk • contribs) 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this article is entirely neutral on the possible outcomes of Fidel Castro's illness. It does not give any information on how pro-Castro groups have reacted or if Cuba might stay under the control of Raul Castro if Fidel were to be permanently incapacitated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.236.51.44 ( talk • contribs) 04:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
We ought to have something about the Cuban reactions. -- Beardo 08:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Two things. It says it "as read by" the minister... well, was one version read by him in English? Or is there a translating party that should mentioned? Also, it didn't seem to be clearly sourced. gren グレン 11:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Well I give up trying to have the text of the announcement in this article. As a general rule, and if copyright and length permit, I strongly believe it's better to include sources in articles. These web-page citations are very ephemeral-- there's no relying on them to be at the given urls even a few days into the future, nevermind years and decades. If we incorporate primary source docs into our own articles, we've captured them forever. But two editors have blown away the translation & I'm in no mood for fighting. JDG 14:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Should the full text announcement be in the article? I feel as though a full primary document isn't particularly encyclopedic. Wouldn't a link under the abbreviated text or at the end of the article be more efficient? Kanmalachoa 16:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Since the full text is already present on Wikisource, and there is no apparent reason to preserve the text both places, I have substituted the text with a link to wikisource. Besides, the wikisource edition was a better translation -- "partner" is an awkward translation of "compañero". -- Thorsen 10:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Should the rumors of his death be included in this article? A number of major news sources have been claiming it. -- ¡Viva la Revolución! PiMaster3 talk 22:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I personally don't think this is that relevant. But I'm also more concerned with the "President Bush told him the administration was caught off guard" material. I don't think that is relevant either and contains a number of problems. I'd like to see that removed as well, the world doesn't revolve around Washington.-- Zleitzen 22:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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I would like to point out that the Kommersant article alleging that Raul Castro has disappeared from the public spotlight also states that "Washington believes the two brothers to be dead," which, as far as I know, is patently false.
Unless the person who made the edit can provide another source, or somebody comes along at tells me that Kommersant is a reliable source for these sorts of things, I am going to delete that detail in about 30 minutes. -- Jaysweet 21:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I stumbled across a reuters article on this today, so I've re-added it. Feel free to move it from the intro if you'd like, there didn't seem to be any other place.-- Elcocinero 17:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I would suggest the most appropriate place for the text is on Wikisource, not Wikipedia. -- Midnighttonight Remind me to do my uni work rather than procrastinate on the internet 04:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Please discuss here before deleting this section. State your reasoning, thank you. Coolguy1368 1:45, 13 August 2006
The article doesn't make clear if Fidel is back in charge again. Surely his recovery isn't taking that long. -- Alcuin 02:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
The article has been changed from "Raúl Castro is now assuming all of the presidential duties of the state" to "Raúl Castro is now discharging all of the presidential duties of the state". I don't know how that sounds to other users, but to me that sounds rather like Raúl is in the process of producing a rather painful shit on behalf of the Cuban state! Was there a particular problem with "assuming duties"? Here is the wording of the Cuban constitution (pun not intended)
Article 94: In cases of the absence, illness or death of the president of the Council of State, the first vice president assumes the president’s duties.
-- Zleitzen 10:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
What about this - http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/UserFiles/Image/fotos-fidel/2007-01-30/fidel-castro-hugo-chavez-3.jpg ?
Or http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/UserFiles/Image/fotos-fidel/2007-01-30/fidel-castro-hugo-chavez-2.jpg ? -- Beardo 07:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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July 2006 Cuban transfer a power seems a bit odd, considering that most of the real action is going to take place during August 2006. Perhaps just 2006 Cuban transfer of power will work. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 14:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
<- (unindent) It's only linked from four articles, as far as I can see. And one of those articles is Fidel Castro. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 16:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Would'nt it be better if it was 2006 Cuban transfer of presidential duties, because the title is extremely vague Q5 den 07:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
The Ros-Lehtinen section (apart from strangely allowing her to speak for the White House) said that Cuba must meet the "Heisenberg law" requirements. Other than the uncertainty principle I'm unable to find anything corroborating with this -- presumably she was speaking of the 1992 Cuban Democracy Act. If this is familiar to anyone, feel free to explicate, but I think it was just mistranscribed (some of the other writing suggested the editor did not have English as a first language). -- Dhartung | Talk 15:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Cuba has also been violating the law of Gravity and the Kepler Law :D
Here are some rumors I heard from a forum.
"I talked to some people in Cuba and apparently there's been some sort of mobilization of the CDRs.
They say Fidel will be back in a few weeks, and wants to celebrate his birthday then, with the Cuban people..
The U.S. might try to pull some sort of shit in the mean time, and so we need to alert.
The weird thing is that for the surgery he's getting, recovery is only a day or two (at most).. this could mean a few things.. like that he wants to lay back for two or three weeks to see how things function.. in preperation for the future when he won't be around any more."
"I'm hearing things that don't sound so good.. Apparently, "Granma" hasn't come out today, all flights in and out of Cuba are canceled, all Hotels are closed, police and military patrols are going on, and the Politburo has taken control of things temporarily. I'm also hearing that Fidel is in a medically induced coma."
"According to sources in the Island, the political climate in La Habana is one of "either a coup or a funeral." Hotels shut down because they are under government orders to reserve the rooms for them; meetings in all ministries with military officers presence; flights canceled and police and military patrols in certain areas of the capital not ussually showing this kind of presence...
Fidel is in a medically induced coma as of now...
The rumor mill is working overtime. However, according to "serious" people on the Island (everyone is trotting the line of their favorites) Fidel is dead and people are starting to line up either behind Raul or Lage. Alarcon is said to be very, very upset because he wasn't even mentioned for anything...
Perez Roque and Valenciaga are said to be playing a big role now as intermediates, really in favor of one of the candidates...
The State Council has been bypassed for the Politburo, an unexpected move that means Raul is firmly in power..."
I'm not sure what to make of it all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.134.105.54 ( talk • contribs) 16:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I think this is a significant enough event to merit retaining the article, which has a good amount of interesting, relevant and cited material. TransUtopian 07:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
America again started to talk about democracy and human rights. I think they don't know that the Human Development Index of Cuba is higher than USA's HDI. America looks like a total comedy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.224.182.162 ( talk • contribs) 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this article is entirely neutral on the possible outcomes of Fidel Castro's illness. It does not give any information on how pro-Castro groups have reacted or if Cuba might stay under the control of Raul Castro if Fidel were to be permanently incapacitated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.236.51.44 ( talk • contribs) 04:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
We ought to have something about the Cuban reactions. -- Beardo 08:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Two things. It says it "as read by" the minister... well, was one version read by him in English? Or is there a translating party that should mentioned? Also, it didn't seem to be clearly sourced. gren グレン 11:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Well I give up trying to have the text of the announcement in this article. As a general rule, and if copyright and length permit, I strongly believe it's better to include sources in articles. These web-page citations are very ephemeral-- there's no relying on them to be at the given urls even a few days into the future, nevermind years and decades. If we incorporate primary source docs into our own articles, we've captured them forever. But two editors have blown away the translation & I'm in no mood for fighting. JDG 14:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Should the full text announcement be in the article? I feel as though a full primary document isn't particularly encyclopedic. Wouldn't a link under the abbreviated text or at the end of the article be more efficient? Kanmalachoa 16:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Since the full text is already present on Wikisource, and there is no apparent reason to preserve the text both places, I have substituted the text with a link to wikisource. Besides, the wikisource edition was a better translation -- "partner" is an awkward translation of "compañero". -- Thorsen 10:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Should the rumors of his death be included in this article? A number of major news sources have been claiming it. -- ¡Viva la Revolución! PiMaster3 talk 22:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I personally don't think this is that relevant. But I'm also more concerned with the "President Bush told him the administration was caught off guard" material. I don't think that is relevant either and contains a number of problems. I'd like to see that removed as well, the world doesn't revolve around Washington.-- Zleitzen 22:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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I would like to point out that the Kommersant article alleging that Raul Castro has disappeared from the public spotlight also states that "Washington believes the two brothers to be dead," which, as far as I know, is patently false.
Unless the person who made the edit can provide another source, or somebody comes along at tells me that Kommersant is a reliable source for these sorts of things, I am going to delete that detail in about 30 minutes. -- Jaysweet 21:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I stumbled across a reuters article on this today, so I've re-added it. Feel free to move it from the intro if you'd like, there didn't seem to be any other place.-- Elcocinero 17:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I would suggest the most appropriate place for the text is on Wikisource, not Wikipedia. -- Midnighttonight Remind me to do my uni work rather than procrastinate on the internet 04:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Please discuss here before deleting this section. State your reasoning, thank you. Coolguy1368 1:45, 13 August 2006
The article doesn't make clear if Fidel is back in charge again. Surely his recovery isn't taking that long. -- Alcuin 02:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
The article has been changed from "Raúl Castro is now assuming all of the presidential duties of the state" to "Raúl Castro is now discharging all of the presidential duties of the state". I don't know how that sounds to other users, but to me that sounds rather like Raúl is in the process of producing a rather painful shit on behalf of the Cuban state! Was there a particular problem with "assuming duties"? Here is the wording of the Cuban constitution (pun not intended)
Article 94: In cases of the absence, illness or death of the president of the Council of State, the first vice president assumes the president’s duties.
-- Zleitzen 10:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
What about this - http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/UserFiles/Image/fotos-fidel/2007-01-30/fidel-castro-hugo-chavez-3.jpg ?
Or http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/UserFiles/Image/fotos-fidel/2007-01-30/fidel-castro-hugo-chavez-2.jpg ? -- Beardo 07:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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I'm happy with the references, stability, and neutrality of this article however, and it seems to be coming along nicely.
Hopefully the editors here can fix this article up quickly, so I'll place this article ON HOLD for a maximum period of 7 days. Drop me a note on my talk page when you're ready for this article to be re-assessed. Pursey Talk | Contribs 11:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
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