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Former good article nominee1st Marine Division was a Warfare good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 15, 2009 Good article nomineeNot listed

Class B Review

I've checked and this article has no inline citation and lacks enough referable material I've added {{ Fact}} to where I think you need to add citations and I would think you can get most of this off the 1st Marine Division's website. To upgrade this further you need to get some more sources. Tirronan 21:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC) reply

Korean War Postscript

Fifty-seven years after the Korean War, remains of two of the "Punchbowl unknowns" were identified-both from the 1st Marine Division: - *one was Pfc. Donald Morris Walker of Support Company/1st Service Battalion/1st Marine Division who was KIA Dec 7, 1950. See [ [1]] {August 2007} - *the other was Pfc. Carl West of Weapons Company/1st Battalion/7th Regiment/1st Marine Division who was KIA Dec 10, 1950. See [ [2]] {October 2007}

Citation tags

I note that there are a couple of citation needed tags on this article, which will cause problems when it is reviewed for GA status. Might I politely suggest that these are addressed. Jezhotwells ( talk) 00:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC) reply

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1st Marine Division (United States)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
I think the article is very good and well written but I just noticed a couple things.
  1. I would like to see citations for the 2nd paragraph where it states it is "the oldest...
  2. I think the table with the unit awards should have all the data filled in or should have emdashes.-- Kumioko ( talk) 01:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Comments

  • Okinawa: The 1st Marine Division did not fight on Sugarloaf Hill. That was the 6th Division. (The 1st Division did capture Shuri Castle however.) Also, this paragraph has no references.
  • Korea: First and last paragraphs missing references. Also, by convention, "Eighth Army" should be spelt out.
  • Vietnam: There's a citation missing tag here. Also, it is too short and requires expansion. There is no reason why Vietnam should not be as long as Korea. There were many claims that soldiers committed atrocities in the Vietnam war. The "Winter Soldier" movie is a possible source.
  • Gulf War. This is also a bit short.
  • Iraq war. Another citation required tag here.

Hawkeye7 ( talk) 08:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Been a month since the last comment - what's the status on this review? Wizardman 15:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC) reply

  • None of the issues have been resolved, so failing it now. Hawkeye7 ( talk) 21:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC) reply

Why would we want to merge this article into 1st MarDiv? It's a standalone article only tangentially related to 1st MarDiv? Palm_Dogg ( talk) 18:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC) reply

needs to be updated

Maj. Gen. Mike Regner took command on Oct 4, 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.86.69 ( talk) 14:07, 14 October 2010 (UTC) reply

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History is lacking in the article

This article does have great historical information on its creation/formation but it is extremely vague and/or lacking the required info that derives from the Advanced Base Force and the FLEX 7. However, also left out vital historical importance of its origin from First Marine Brigade (not the "provisional" brigade). Anyone willing to take the reins?
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Best title

@ BilledMammal: What is the best title for this article? If the only other meaning of "1st Marine Division" is 1st Marine Division (Wehrmacht) then the U.S. division may be a primary topic, so I would suggest reverting the recent page move and just adding a hatnote. If the move is necessary, there are 318 articles to fix so that they continue to link to the article rather than the dab. Certes ( talk) 13:32, 29 April 2022 (UTC) reply

I assumed that others would exist, and MOS:MIL tells us that In cases where a unit's name can reasonably be expected to be used by multiple armed forces—particularly in the case of numerical unit designations—the units should generally be preemptively disambiguated when the article is created, without waiting for the appearance of a second article on an identically named unit. However, I haven't been able to find any; we don't have an article on a different 1st Marine Division, and though the Chinese might have had one I haven't been able to find a source confirming that. I've requested the move is reverted. BilledMammal ( talk) 20:26, 29 April 2022 (UTC) reply
Your renaming seems to be correct per WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME, which I hadn't read. Does anyone else have an opinion? Perhaps we should ask the WikiProject before reverting. Certes ( talk) 23:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC) reply
A similar question applies to 21st Rifle Division, etc. My non-expert opinion is that it's right to make these dabs but need to fix their incoming links. Certes ( talk) 10:15, 30 April 2022 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Former good article nominee1st Marine Division was a Warfare good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 15, 2009 Good article nomineeNot listed

Class B Review

I've checked and this article has no inline citation and lacks enough referable material I've added {{ Fact}} to where I think you need to add citations and I would think you can get most of this off the 1st Marine Division's website. To upgrade this further you need to get some more sources. Tirronan 21:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC) reply

Korean War Postscript

Fifty-seven years after the Korean War, remains of two of the "Punchbowl unknowns" were identified-both from the 1st Marine Division: - *one was Pfc. Donald Morris Walker of Support Company/1st Service Battalion/1st Marine Division who was KIA Dec 7, 1950. See [ [1]] {August 2007} - *the other was Pfc. Carl West of Weapons Company/1st Battalion/7th Regiment/1st Marine Division who was KIA Dec 10, 1950. See [ [2]] {October 2007}

Citation tags

I note that there are a couple of citation needed tags on this article, which will cause problems when it is reviewed for GA status. Might I politely suggest that these are addressed. Jezhotwells ( talk) 00:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC) reply

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1st Marine Division (United States)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
I think the article is very good and well written but I just noticed a couple things.
  1. I would like to see citations for the 2nd paragraph where it states it is "the oldest...
  2. I think the table with the unit awards should have all the data filled in or should have emdashes.-- Kumioko ( talk) 01:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Comments

  • Okinawa: The 1st Marine Division did not fight on Sugarloaf Hill. That was the 6th Division. (The 1st Division did capture Shuri Castle however.) Also, this paragraph has no references.
  • Korea: First and last paragraphs missing references. Also, by convention, "Eighth Army" should be spelt out.
  • Vietnam: There's a citation missing tag here. Also, it is too short and requires expansion. There is no reason why Vietnam should not be as long as Korea. There were many claims that soldiers committed atrocities in the Vietnam war. The "Winter Soldier" movie is a possible source.
  • Gulf War. This is also a bit short.
  • Iraq war. Another citation required tag here.

Hawkeye7 ( talk) 08:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Been a month since the last comment - what's the status on this review? Wizardman 15:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC) reply

  • None of the issues have been resolved, so failing it now. Hawkeye7 ( talk) 21:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC) reply

Why would we want to merge this article into 1st MarDiv? It's a standalone article only tangentially related to 1st MarDiv? Palm_Dogg ( talk) 18:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC) reply

needs to be updated

Maj. Gen. Mike Regner took command on Oct 4, 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.86.69 ( talk) 14:07, 14 October 2010 (UTC) reply

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  • http://korea50.army.mil/history/factsheets/marine.shtml
    • In 1st Marine Aircraft Wing on 2011-05-25 06:53:36, Socket Error: 'A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond'
    • In 1st Marine Aircraft Wing on 2011-06-10 04:05:19, Socket Error: 'A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond'

-- JeffGBot ( talk) 04:06, 10 June 2011 (UTC) reply

History is lacking in the article

This article does have great historical information on its creation/formation but it is extremely vague and/or lacking the required info that derives from the Advanced Base Force and the FLEX 7. However, also left out vital historical importance of its origin from First Marine Brigade (not the "provisional" brigade). Anyone willing to take the reins?
RekonDog ( talk) 22:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC) reply

External links modified

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Best title

@ BilledMammal: What is the best title for this article? If the only other meaning of "1st Marine Division" is 1st Marine Division (Wehrmacht) then the U.S. division may be a primary topic, so I would suggest reverting the recent page move and just adding a hatnote. If the move is necessary, there are 318 articles to fix so that they continue to link to the article rather than the dab. Certes ( talk) 13:32, 29 April 2022 (UTC) reply

I assumed that others would exist, and MOS:MIL tells us that In cases where a unit's name can reasonably be expected to be used by multiple armed forces—particularly in the case of numerical unit designations—the units should generally be preemptively disambiguated when the article is created, without waiting for the appearance of a second article on an identically named unit. However, I haven't been able to find any; we don't have an article on a different 1st Marine Division, and though the Chinese might have had one I haven't been able to find a source confirming that. I've requested the move is reverted. BilledMammal ( talk) 20:26, 29 April 2022 (UTC) reply
Your renaming seems to be correct per WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME, which I hadn't read. Does anyone else have an opinion? Perhaps we should ask the WikiProject before reverting. Certes ( talk) 23:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC) reply
A similar question applies to 21st Rifle Division, etc. My non-expert opinion is that it's right to make these dabs but need to fix their incoming links. Certes ( talk) 10:15, 30 April 2022 (UTC) reply

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