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Former good article nominee1962 French presidential election referendum was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 10, 2009 Peer reviewReviewed
October 16, 2009 Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

Pictures

It would be better to have pictures. However, pictures from that time, for instance published in the press, are typically only available under unfree licenses. David.Monniaux ( talk) 14:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC) reply

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:French presidential election referendum, 1962/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
GA review (see here for criteria)

This article is inadequate for a major artist of this stature, longevity and importance.

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b ( MoS):
    I changed the sectioning to be more chronological and to have better section titles
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c ( OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Talk page note about lack of images acknowledged
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

I like this article, but it has some weaknesses in terms of coverage:

  • Why would a change in just the method of election of the president give the president more power? If the answer is that the president would have a direct power base among the people, that needs to be expanded upon more.
  • And why exactly did de Gaulle prefer this? Needs to be explained more.
  • There is much discussion of the constitutionality of the referendum, but there needs to be more discussion of the debate over the merits of the referendum. What were arguments for and against direct election? Who was making those arguments? Had this been proposed in the past?
  • Was there campaigning going on about the referendum? Advertisements for and against? Did the issue capture the imagination of the voting public? How long did the campaign go on for? Were any public opinion polls taken?
  • Was any analysis of the final vote done? What kind of people voted for it, as opposed to against it? Did it break down by party affiliation, ideological affiliation, or allegiance to certain politicians? Did support correlate to age or gender or geographical location? Was voter turnout high or low?
  • What were the long-term consequences of this referendum passing? Did the presidency in fact achieve greater power than before? How did this change affect French politics overall?

These kinds of matters need to be addressed if the article is to be a comprehensive look at this referendum and achieve "good" status. Wasted Time R ( talk) 14:53, 13 September 2009 (UTC) reply

Update. The normal waiting period for GA review is a week, and it has now been more than a month. There has been no response here from the nominator. One unsourced paragraph was added to the article to address the first two points above, but nothing beyond that, and the nominator has not been active much in WP in general during this time. Since progress is not being made, I am going to fail this GAN. Once more improvements have been made to it, it can always be re-nominated at a later time. Wasted Time R ( talk) 14:57, 16 October 2009 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Former good article nominee1962 French presidential election referendum was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 10, 2009 Peer reviewReviewed
October 16, 2009 Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

Pictures

It would be better to have pictures. However, pictures from that time, for instance published in the press, are typically only available under unfree licenses. David.Monniaux ( talk) 14:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC) reply

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:French presidential election referendum, 1962/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
GA review (see here for criteria)

This article is inadequate for a major artist of this stature, longevity and importance.

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b ( MoS):
    I changed the sectioning to be more chronological and to have better section titles
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c ( OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Talk page note about lack of images acknowledged
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

I like this article, but it has some weaknesses in terms of coverage:

  • Why would a change in just the method of election of the president give the president more power? If the answer is that the president would have a direct power base among the people, that needs to be expanded upon more.
  • And why exactly did de Gaulle prefer this? Needs to be explained more.
  • There is much discussion of the constitutionality of the referendum, but there needs to be more discussion of the debate over the merits of the referendum. What were arguments for and against direct election? Who was making those arguments? Had this been proposed in the past?
  • Was there campaigning going on about the referendum? Advertisements for and against? Did the issue capture the imagination of the voting public? How long did the campaign go on for? Were any public opinion polls taken?
  • Was any analysis of the final vote done? What kind of people voted for it, as opposed to against it? Did it break down by party affiliation, ideological affiliation, or allegiance to certain politicians? Did support correlate to age or gender or geographical location? Was voter turnout high or low?
  • What were the long-term consequences of this referendum passing? Did the presidency in fact achieve greater power than before? How did this change affect French politics overall?

These kinds of matters need to be addressed if the article is to be a comprehensive look at this referendum and achieve "good" status. Wasted Time R ( talk) 14:53, 13 September 2009 (UTC) reply

Update. The normal waiting period for GA review is a week, and it has now been more than a month. There has been no response here from the nominator. One unsourced paragraph was added to the article to address the first two points above, but nothing beyond that, and the nominator has not been active much in WP in general during this time. Since progress is not being made, I am going to fail this GAN. Once more improvements have been made to it, it can always be re-nominated at a later time. Wasted Time R ( talk) 14:57, 16 October 2009 (UTC) reply

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