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Update: August 2007. The article appears to be mostly stable now. One cited value (number of Jews in the Window) is clearly erroneous and has been noted as such. Unfortunately, no other published source has yet been found for that data. Could it be that the controversies have been resolved?
To the reader: please read the extensive discussion below as well as the archived discussion here before editing and/or adding additional comments. This article has been extensively examined and edited to achieve good neutrality, good citations, etc. Perhaps the most important points missed by many readers:
Most of the extensive discussions about disputed topics have been resolved since 2007. Those discussions have been moved to an archive page; the topics are summarized below. See Talk:10/40_Window/Archive_1
Any new/current discussion should be added here. Of special interest: improving the wording and/or tightening up the "lead" to improve the rating.
As far as I can tell, the article is now class "B". Mr Pete ( talk) 13:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Title format: Should be capitalized to be consistent with usage in the article ThinkWellThinkGlobal ( talk) 03:16, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
These edits are repeatedly made. They are all incorrect. Please re-read the material below as well as the archived discussion.
Mr Pete ( talk) 22:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
More incorrect edits, mostly based on previously resolved discussion in the archive:
Mr Pete ( talk) 10:52, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
The term cannot have been coined in 1990 by Luis Bush, because the term appears in the book The Coming Revolution in World Missions by K. P. Yohannan published in 1986. I don't know who coined this term, but it is goes back to 1986 at least. Xtian1977 ( talk) 22:28, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Others have made edits based on the idea that the term was in use elsewhere in the early 1980's, e.g. YWAM or USCWM (Dr. Ralph Winter).
-- Mr Pete ( talk) 10:30, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Additional disputes below are condensed from the now-archived talk pages.
Mr Pete (
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Portugal is included, I noticed, yet from a geographical standpoint, Portugal is west of the Prime Meridian, as is Great Britain. So, is this 10/40 geographical primarily or what? Jlujan69 ( talk) 01:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
This entire section is purely meaningless drivel. It belongs on a missions website, not an encyclopedia. I propose eliminating the section because there is no way to salvage it.-- 68.40.223.225 ( talk) 17:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
(Several dead links repaired) Mr Pete ( talk) 13:48, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Page moved. No opposition voiced. ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane talk 05:50, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
10/40 Window →
10/40 window – Not a proper noun.
142.161.81.20 (
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Amakuru (
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This: this "Despite the technicaJ explanations and elaborate coding rubric, the underlying framework reflects the persistence of scientific racism and discredited anthropological classification systems. As a result, one theologian laments that the 10/40 Window concept and people group research are based on outdated anthropology, poor quality geography and questionable theology, and comments that this combination has become "another colonial burden that has to be borne" (Rynkiewich 2007, 225)." and this. Doug Weller talk 18:06, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
The Boko Haram terrorist group is a response to Christian evangelization in the 10/40 window. How can it be effectively added to this article? Jasonagastrich ( talk) 20:44, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
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Update: August 2007. The article appears to be mostly stable now. One cited value (number of Jews in the Window) is clearly erroneous and has been noted as such. Unfortunately, no other published source has yet been found for that data. Could it be that the controversies have been resolved?
To the reader: please read the extensive discussion below as well as the archived discussion here before editing and/or adding additional comments. This article has been extensively examined and edited to achieve good neutrality, good citations, etc. Perhaps the most important points missed by many readers:
Most of the extensive discussions about disputed topics have been resolved since 2007. Those discussions have been moved to an archive page; the topics are summarized below. See Talk:10/40_Window/Archive_1
Any new/current discussion should be added here. Of special interest: improving the wording and/or tightening up the "lead" to improve the rating.
As far as I can tell, the article is now class "B". Mr Pete ( talk) 13:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Title format: Should be capitalized to be consistent with usage in the article ThinkWellThinkGlobal ( talk) 03:16, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
These edits are repeatedly made. They are all incorrect. Please re-read the material below as well as the archived discussion.
Mr Pete ( talk) 22:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
More incorrect edits, mostly based on previously resolved discussion in the archive:
Mr Pete ( talk) 10:52, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
The term cannot have been coined in 1990 by Luis Bush, because the term appears in the book The Coming Revolution in World Missions by K. P. Yohannan published in 1986. I don't know who coined this term, but it is goes back to 1986 at least. Xtian1977 ( talk) 22:28, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Others have made edits based on the idea that the term was in use elsewhere in the early 1980's, e.g. YWAM or USCWM (Dr. Ralph Winter).
-- Mr Pete ( talk) 10:30, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Additional disputes below are condensed from the now-archived talk pages.
Mr Pete (
talk) 13:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Concern:
Resolution:
Concerns:
Resolution:
Concerns:
Resolution:
Any dispute of the cited facts needs to be based on authoritative sources.
Concerns:
References
Portugal is included, I noticed, yet from a geographical standpoint, Portugal is west of the Prime Meridian, as is Great Britain. So, is this 10/40 geographical primarily or what? Jlujan69 ( talk) 01:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
This entire section is purely meaningless drivel. It belongs on a missions website, not an encyclopedia. I propose eliminating the section because there is no way to salvage it.-- 68.40.223.225 ( talk) 17:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
(Several dead links repaired) Mr Pete ( talk) 13:48, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
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Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 05:44, 8 September 2016 (UTC) – Paine Ellsworth put'r there 22:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. No opposition voiced. ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane talk 05:50, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
10/40 Window →
10/40 window – Not a proper noun.
142.161.81.20 (
talk) 04:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. —
Amakuru (
talk) 19:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
This: this "Despite the technicaJ explanations and elaborate coding rubric, the underlying framework reflects the persistence of scientific racism and discredited anthropological classification systems. As a result, one theologian laments that the 10/40 Window concept and people group research are based on outdated anthropology, poor quality geography and questionable theology, and comments that this combination has become "another colonial burden that has to be borne" (Rynkiewich 2007, 225)." and this. Doug Weller talk 18:06, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
The Boko Haram terrorist group is a response to Christian evangelization in the 10/40 window. How can it be effectively added to this article? Jasonagastrich ( talk) 20:44, 27 July 2019 (UTC)