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The article currently says: "suffered excessively high trajectory". That's the first time I've heard anyone regard drop as beneficial. Usually the cartridges with flat trajectories are being praised over those with a large drop. Seems very strange to me. -- BjKa ( talk) 21:17, 14 August 2018 (UTC) reply

On rereading, I think I understand now (shooting high seemed better to me than shooting low.) Maybe "excessively high" should be replaced with "excessively curved"? -- BjKa ( talk) 09:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC) reply

The section is caled "Ballistics". High Trajectory is a term of art among ballisticians, and "excessively high trajectory" has been a well understood term among ballisticians, gunners, and shooters for well over 100 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 ( talk) 19:14, 27 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Elmer Keith calls the .25 Stevens "that most excellent cartridge". What gives? -- BjKa ( talk) 21:17, 14 August 2018 (UTC) reply

Alright, with currently 100% of the article being sourced to Barnes, I'm gonna contrast what has been said with Keith's opinion. -- BjKa ( talk) 08:23, 23 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Nailed it down to barrel length. Seems that as a rifle cartridge is was not so impressive, while in a revolver it performed nicely. Rewrote article accordingly. -- BjKa ( talk) 09:54, 23 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Keith also had a Thing about max-vel loads, & Barnes would be dealing with saner (& factory) loadings. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 18:47, 23 September 2018 (UTC) reply