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I plan to subsume the current article's content into a History section and provide some non-fiction referrence. Julzes ( talk) 16:02, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
While my idea is probably correct, it's been brought to my attention that I'm not actually doing anything. If anybody else wants to, it would be good. The article as it now stands is very weak. Julzes ( talk) 00:08, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
If the zoo hypothesis is true, couldn't it explain a lot of abductions? If aliens are watching us from afar, and they see that we are getting close to discovering them or are getting to nosy, wouldnt they abduct us? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.63.195 ( talk) 05:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I think of this as science, although it is an unproven hypothesis. However, it is one that is pretty firmly grounded in scientific evidence. Placing it under paranormal trivializes it.
Also, I was thrilled to see the recent edits/additions to the page. More work needs to be done, but it is becoming the most extensive information readily available on the matter, which is unfortunate. I wrote an editorial to Sky and Telescope about this that they should publish in the next couple of magazines.
Interestingly, I thought of this whole scenario independently when I was about 19, and I have been searching for information about it ever sense. I think is time for people to take it more seriously.
A very interesting point. And in a loose way, it nicely segues into the foundation of the simulation hypothesis. An advanced civilization with that much control would be able to control the fabric of reality. Viriditas ( talk) 04:22, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
So, does this hypothesis has no critics? Nobody actually tried to even suggest that the "cosmic conspiracy" like that requires a relatively low numbers of civilizations in the close proximity? That more civilizations, more probability that the signals sent long time ago would inevitably reach us in our life time when the other civilization was supposedly "too primitive" to join the "galactic Zoo conspiracy"? That with growing number of civilizations someone will inevitably break the radio silence? Nobody tried to point that currently understood laws of physics prohibit monitoring "the primitives" from the distance at last in the given time? Or the hypothesis is considered so implausible that nobody is trying even discuss with it? Because it's staggering when I see a lot of criticism in case of Rare Earth hypothesis and lack of criticism of that one. Does all criticism is only from those who believe that space civilizations are common and located in the close proximity to Earth? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.193.208.129 ( talk) 12:56, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
This whole section could be deleted, since it has no relation to the article. Nothing about the Zoo Hypothesis implies more than a single alien civilization doing the zookeeping, and nothing about the hypothesis implies that there are more zoo habitats than Earth. It only assumes that there is at least one alien civilization watching over at least one habitat. 68.49.40.87 ( talk) 03:11, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
"If just one civilization acquired hegemony in the distant past, it could form an unbroken chain of taboo against rapacious colonization in favour of non-interference in any civilizations that follow. The uniformity of motive concept previously mentioned would become moot in such a situation." - this is referenced with an article of Seth Shostak suggesting that he writes there uniformity counterargument concept is moot point. I read this to the end and its complitely opposite. He writes there that its a problem for the hypothesis, becouse assumption "sounds odd, self-centered and a bit too altruistic (...) more than little forced". Probably editor tried to enforce his own belief and arguments using references with conclusions that weren't even there.
Would CS Lewis's Out of the Silent Planet be an example of the Zoo Hypothesis, or would it be in another category? It seems similar to the Calvin and Hobbes comic cited, but before I was aware that the Zoo Hypothesis might be considered broad enough to include it, I personally described it as the "Quarantine Hypothesis" in which Earth is considered such a grave threat that it is under quarantine. It doesn't fit the Dark Forest since it applies only to Earth specifically. Does it fit here? Kaleb70 ( talk) 08:17, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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I plan to subsume the current article's content into a History section and provide some non-fiction referrence. Julzes ( talk) 16:02, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
While my idea is probably correct, it's been brought to my attention that I'm not actually doing anything. If anybody else wants to, it would be good. The article as it now stands is very weak. Julzes ( talk) 00:08, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
If the zoo hypothesis is true, couldn't it explain a lot of abductions? If aliens are watching us from afar, and they see that we are getting close to discovering them or are getting to nosy, wouldnt they abduct us? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.63.195 ( talk) 05:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I think of this as science, although it is an unproven hypothesis. However, it is one that is pretty firmly grounded in scientific evidence. Placing it under paranormal trivializes it.
Also, I was thrilled to see the recent edits/additions to the page. More work needs to be done, but it is becoming the most extensive information readily available on the matter, which is unfortunate. I wrote an editorial to Sky and Telescope about this that they should publish in the next couple of magazines.
Interestingly, I thought of this whole scenario independently when I was about 19, and I have been searching for information about it ever sense. I think is time for people to take it more seriously.
A very interesting point. And in a loose way, it nicely segues into the foundation of the simulation hypothesis. An advanced civilization with that much control would be able to control the fabric of reality. Viriditas ( talk) 04:22, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
So, does this hypothesis has no critics? Nobody actually tried to even suggest that the "cosmic conspiracy" like that requires a relatively low numbers of civilizations in the close proximity? That more civilizations, more probability that the signals sent long time ago would inevitably reach us in our life time when the other civilization was supposedly "too primitive" to join the "galactic Zoo conspiracy"? That with growing number of civilizations someone will inevitably break the radio silence? Nobody tried to point that currently understood laws of physics prohibit monitoring "the primitives" from the distance at last in the given time? Or the hypothesis is considered so implausible that nobody is trying even discuss with it? Because it's staggering when I see a lot of criticism in case of Rare Earth hypothesis and lack of criticism of that one. Does all criticism is only from those who believe that space civilizations are common and located in the close proximity to Earth? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.193.208.129 ( talk) 12:56, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
This whole section could be deleted, since it has no relation to the article. Nothing about the Zoo Hypothesis implies more than a single alien civilization doing the zookeeping, and nothing about the hypothesis implies that there are more zoo habitats than Earth. It only assumes that there is at least one alien civilization watching over at least one habitat. 68.49.40.87 ( talk) 03:11, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
"If just one civilization acquired hegemony in the distant past, it could form an unbroken chain of taboo against rapacious colonization in favour of non-interference in any civilizations that follow. The uniformity of motive concept previously mentioned would become moot in such a situation." - this is referenced with an article of Seth Shostak suggesting that he writes there uniformity counterargument concept is moot point. I read this to the end and its complitely opposite. He writes there that its a problem for the hypothesis, becouse assumption "sounds odd, self-centered and a bit too altruistic (...) more than little forced". Probably editor tried to enforce his own belief and arguments using references with conclusions that weren't even there.
Would CS Lewis's Out of the Silent Planet be an example of the Zoo Hypothesis, or would it be in another category? It seems similar to the Calvin and Hobbes comic cited, but before I was aware that the Zoo Hypothesis might be considered broad enough to include it, I personally described it as the "Quarantine Hypothesis" in which Earth is considered such a grave threat that it is under quarantine. It doesn't fit the Dark Forest since it applies only to Earth specifically. Does it fit here? Kaleb70 ( talk) 08:17, 27 February 2023 (UTC)