Please don't delete this article, The Zomet Institute used the moreshet server for a few years and therefore had a link to it
I took the link off, and hope this will solve the problem
The point is that this material seems to be lifted straight off the website, particularly the project section from http://www.moreshet.co.il/zomet/html/project.htm Hrafn Talk Stalk 12:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
you are right, i did take it off from there because i got permission from the Zomet Institute to do so
however in the meantime i'll take the project section off
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.143.214.179 ( talk) 12:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
I changed the article to be as nutral as possible. please inform me if you think otherwise before deleting the article
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.143.214.179 ( talk) 13:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The organization is definitely notable.
The article should be expanded, of course. -- Amir E. Aharoni ( talk) 14:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
<unident> WP:COI creation + no sources = absolutely zero presumption of notability, hence a notability template. If you can establish notability for it, well and good. As to deleting the article, I speedied it when it was mostly WP:COPYVIO material, but that material was quickly removed, so I had no basis for continuing to propose speedy deletion. One of two things can happen to a template-plastered single-sentence stub, it either gets redirected/deleted or robustly expanded. Either is better than letting it moulder as a longer (but likely inaccurate) & non-eye-catching stub, that is unlikely to offend anybody's sensibilities enough to get itself expanded, so can stick around in that condition for years. Hrafn Talk Stalk 16:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Three external links: one to the subject's non-English website, one to a bare mention of the subject, leaving only one substantive & independent (but hardly scholarly) link. You call this "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"? And none of these sources
verify the bulk of the statements you have introduced. I think my skepticism has been fully justified.
Hrafn
Talk
Stalk
16:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I added a source about usage of Zomet-designed phones in the IDF. You are welcome to ask any Hebrew speaker to verify it.
I don't currently have a source about the number of people who study the psakim in Thumin and live according to them, but this book is present in the home of nearly every observant Jewish family and every Religious Zionist synagogue. (Though probably not at Haredi ones.) -- Amir E. Aharoni ( talk) 19:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
If this book is so famous, then why aren't there readily accessible WP:RSs discussing it? Why can't I find it listed on Amazon or Google Books? Are you sure you have the Roman-script spelling of its name correct? You claim that "this book is present in the home of nearly every observant Jewish family" and that I could find it if I "check in any synagogue", but I am beginning to wonder exactly which Jewish denominations consider it to be authoritative. Hrafn Talk Stalk 09:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Hrafn Talk Stalk 12:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Dear 212.143.214.179,
I don't know how relevant the whole thing about the conversion is, maybe you should start a new page about Yisrael Rozen and put it in there ColdSnow ( talk) 15:07, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Can someone implement some of the information from today's NY Times article into this article... This organization is very interesting, unique and deserves a spot on Wikipedia. David Betesh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.64.57.118 ( talk) 14:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
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Please don't delete this article, The Zomet Institute used the moreshet server for a few years and therefore had a link to it
I took the link off, and hope this will solve the problem
The point is that this material seems to be lifted straight off the website, particularly the project section from http://www.moreshet.co.il/zomet/html/project.htm Hrafn Talk Stalk 12:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
you are right, i did take it off from there because i got permission from the Zomet Institute to do so
however in the meantime i'll take the project section off
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.143.214.179 ( talk) 12:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
I changed the article to be as nutral as possible. please inform me if you think otherwise before deleting the article
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.143.214.179 ( talk) 13:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The organization is definitely notable.
The article should be expanded, of course. -- Amir E. Aharoni ( talk) 14:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
<unident> WP:COI creation + no sources = absolutely zero presumption of notability, hence a notability template. If you can establish notability for it, well and good. As to deleting the article, I speedied it when it was mostly WP:COPYVIO material, but that material was quickly removed, so I had no basis for continuing to propose speedy deletion. One of two things can happen to a template-plastered single-sentence stub, it either gets redirected/deleted or robustly expanded. Either is better than letting it moulder as a longer (but likely inaccurate) & non-eye-catching stub, that is unlikely to offend anybody's sensibilities enough to get itself expanded, so can stick around in that condition for years. Hrafn Talk Stalk 16:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Three external links: one to the subject's non-English website, one to a bare mention of the subject, leaving only one substantive & independent (but hardly scholarly) link. You call this "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"? And none of these sources
verify the bulk of the statements you have introduced. I think my skepticism has been fully justified.
Hrafn
Talk
Stalk
16:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I added a source about usage of Zomet-designed phones in the IDF. You are welcome to ask any Hebrew speaker to verify it.
I don't currently have a source about the number of people who study the psakim in Thumin and live according to them, but this book is present in the home of nearly every observant Jewish family and every Religious Zionist synagogue. (Though probably not at Haredi ones.) -- Amir E. Aharoni ( talk) 19:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
If this book is so famous, then why aren't there readily accessible WP:RSs discussing it? Why can't I find it listed on Amazon or Google Books? Are you sure you have the Roman-script spelling of its name correct? You claim that "this book is present in the home of nearly every observant Jewish family" and that I could find it if I "check in any synagogue", but I am beginning to wonder exactly which Jewish denominations consider it to be authoritative. Hrafn Talk Stalk 09:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Hrafn Talk Stalk 12:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Dear 212.143.214.179,
I don't know how relevant the whole thing about the conversion is, maybe you should start a new page about Yisrael Rozen and put it in there ColdSnow ( talk) 15:07, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Can someone implement some of the information from today's NY Times article into this article... This organization is very interesting, unique and deserves a spot on Wikipedia. David Betesh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.64.57.118 ( talk) 14:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
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