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-To Fyrefiend: The Jaz Drive link, IMO, should be in the Zip See Also. The Jaz Drive existed around the same time as the Zip drive, was made by the same manufacturer, was also a magnetic removable media, and shared market share and marketing strategies at the time of its existance. Tell me what you think, but I think that the removal should be RVed. -- Borisborf 06:45, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Wouldn't the SCSI connector just shortcircut the PPA3 (SCSI-Parallel converter) chip found in ordinary ZIP drives? And can we get a source on the compatability problems? Thanks. ~Netdroid9
The machines are actually that old, most having been purchased after the 2000 Bush-vs-Gore election troubles with punch-cards. [1]
In the first paragraph, it states that the ZIP drive has faded from popularity. wouldn't it be more accurate to say that it has disappeared almost entirely? 68.228.111.250 17:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
I've just found a Zip drive along with some old hardware. Any suggestions as to what to do with it? Paperweight, perhaps? — Chameleon 08:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
They still have some uses in computer audio and music : some recorders, synthesisers and samplers use them. Or XD-cards or SmartMedia or floppies ! That will persist for quite a while. -- 195.137.93.171 ( talk) 23:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I've never used a Zip drive and therefore know nothing of its interface. Will someone with information on the interface please update the article?-- Fermin ( talk) 22:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
In MS Windows, zip drives can be accessed through Windows Explorer: the OS assigns them a drive letter, if this is what you're asking. - Measure for Measure 14 March 2008
Are you sure its including the Z100USB model? Because I used to use one (the big blue, clear-cased version) and I remember CLEARLY that this does not happen (the morse code flashing) when the USB connection is unplugged AND powered on. Please correct me if I'm wrong or I guess you have the wrong model. There are a few Z100USB variants as stated here. Someone please review this as I have never seen this happening on other externally powered USB versions (the Z250USBPCM for instance). --Debug-GED 03:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Debug-GED ( talk • contribs)
Would someone mind clarifying what is meant by "the USB Zip 250 has an external ATAPI connection that is rarely used"? — User:ACupOfCoffee @ 04:30, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't suppose anyone knows the Power supply requirements for a Zip 100 Drive? Had a clear out, found an Zip 100 & no PSU. EDIT: Just acquired one, output is +5 Volts @ 1.0 Ampres —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.193.117 ( talk) 19:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
It would be good to list the power spec. on here anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.193.117 ( talk) 18:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
As a long time back in the day user of this stuff, anyone mind if I give this a good old fashioned country clean-up? There's NO mention of the 25mb disks it launched with, for a start, the speed estimate for floppies is crazy, and a few other things are off kilter... 193.63.174.10 ( talk) 13:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Anybody knows this for the 3 types of media? -- RokerHRO ( talk) 12:34, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
This article needs to be given a thorough once-through to remove the incorrect of "they", "them", "their", etc. that can't apply to an un-living object. Unless ZIP disks start to get together and develop awareness like The Terminator or Agent Smith, I must criticize this article as inaccurate and hard-to-read, or also unable to be read and understood from a proper perspective. Japanimation station ( talk) 05:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
"...nor could ever match the storage size available on rewritable CDs..." The Zip 750 held more than what has become the de-facto standard 80 minute / 703 megabyte CD-R/RW capacity. Bizzybody ( talk) 03:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
What's the large connector for on the back of the USB (not USB powered!) Zip 250? It looks like it's made for some sort of adapter to snap onto. Bizzybody ( talk) 03:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
The first model of the internal SCSI Zip 100 required a 5.25" half-height drive bay. Model Z100Si. Its circuit board was wider than the drive mechanism. It had a blue faceplate the same color as the external versions. It only supported SCSI ID 5 and 6, like the external version. Power connector was the same as for 3.5" floppy. I still have one, looking at it right now. My guess is this model was essentially the same as a prototype, rushed into production, with the external SCSI version a "shrink" to pack everything onto the smaller case. The 3.5" bay version soon followed and the 5.25" 'widebody' was discontinued. Front and top pics of this oddball drive at my Flickr page. Feel free to grab them for the article. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27748767@N08/ Bizzybody ( talk) 04:29, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
The internal Zip 100 came in three interfaces, SCSI in both 3.5" and 5.25" (see my Flickr page above for pics of the 5.25"), IDE and ATAPI, both only in 3.5". The IDE version has a black eject button with the activity LED beside it and an emergency eject pull rod slightly recessed at the upper left corner of the faceplate. The eject rod may be blocked by some 5.25" mounting brackets or computer case front plates with openings too small for installing the drive from the front/outside. The ATAPI version has a clear eject button the activity LED shines through and emergency eject is via pushing a pin or wire into a tiny hole on the back of the housing. Any emergency had better be a slow one because the computer has to be opened up to get at the eject hole. ;) Bizzybody ( talk) 04:40, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Pictures of a torn disk edge, taken with the slide held open, and a drive with the heads ripped from their actuator arms would be useful illustrations of the cause of click of death and drive damage caused by damaged disks, and an explanation of the "contagion" of click of death caused by a damaged disk ripping heads loose then the ruined drive damaging good disks, which can then destroy other good drives. I saw several of both when I worked at a computer shop, but never took pictures. Bizzybody ( talk) 04:44, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't think the new Popular Culture section is particularly notable and suggest it be stricken. Any comments? Tom94022 ( talk) 04:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
I've added some data back about the Zip stickers that shipped with most drives. I still have my original sheet which I could easily photograph if anyone would find it useful. I also found a source to support the information (verified and added to page). This is perhaps a bit of trivia, but it was part of the overall Zip experience that made the drives unique, thus I feel it warrants being added. Costner ( talk) 19:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I was told by tech support at FujiFilm many years ago that they developed the media for the Zip drives. Can anyone verify this? Jayscore ( talk) 17:09, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
The Zip disks were overpriced. I disassembled both a 100 Mb Zip disk and a 3.5 inch floppy. I did this by prying the plastic shells apart with a screwdriver. The two matched part for part. Every part of one type of disk had a nearly identical part in the other disk. The only difference was that the Zip disk shell was thicker. The Zip disks sold for 7 to 8 dollars. The 3.5 inch floppies sold for 20 to 40 cents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.22.236 ( talk) 04:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Floppy disks were disposable after a few uses, Zip disks had lifetime warranty! I still use them, either with IDE, USB or SCSI (it just flies!). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.249.17.120 ( talk) 00:48, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
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Zip Drive was so popular that in the mid 1990s, Iomega was worth more than General Motors-- something crazy like that. The Motley Fool wrote, Dec 16, 1999, in an article online called, "And Then There Was Light" that "In the fall of 1994, something revolutionary happened. Investors around the world met in one place online and began to piece together the complete business of one Utah company. The company's new product that they discussed hadn't even been released to the market yet. It hadn't been marketed. It was just rolling out of production. The company was Iomega (NYSE: IOM) and the product was, of course, its Zip drive, a simple portable data storage solution.... Within 13 months, the Fool's Iomega investment represented nearly half the portfolio's total value after having risen over 1,500%. The Zip drive became the best-selling computer peripheral device in history (a rank it still holds), with a million being sold every several weeks. Most major PC makers began to offer Zip drives in their "boxes." The possibility for a new data storage standard held strong. But not strong enough." First, they proved fragile; then the DVD killed them. But I remember the instant millionaires on paper, and near-hysterical financial articles about the Zip drive having "repealed the law of [stock market] gravity." The insane profits triggered the boom, then the first spectacular bust. This little bit of paleo-technology has an important social history. Profhum ( talk) 00:58, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Jeppesen distributes navigation database updates, and Universal Avionics supplies TAWS, UniLink and Performance databases for upload into flight management systems via solid-state data transfer units.[12][13] 139.138.6.121 ( talk) 09:20, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
@ Angelgreat: has asserted a series of incorrect dates in the info box for the discontinuance of ZIP. It took a simple search of SEC records to invalidate the earlier assertions. There is no doubt that production of drives and discs was discontinued by Iomega at some date and sales at some later date thereafter but the information should not be added to the info box until there is a WP:RS and it first should be added to the text of the article. Also note Iomega may have had licensees who continued production after Iomega discontinued. FWIW apparently Fuji Film still makes and sells ZIP discs and they are available tomorrow. Please see e.g.: [4] Most manufacturers are reluctant to announce a discontinuance so you may have a hard time finding a RS. Tom94022 ( talk) 20:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Why was it named the "Zip" drive? The article should state whether or not there is any relationship to Zip compression. cagliost ( talk) 14:53, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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-To Fyrefiend: The Jaz Drive link, IMO, should be in the Zip See Also. The Jaz Drive existed around the same time as the Zip drive, was made by the same manufacturer, was also a magnetic removable media, and shared market share and marketing strategies at the time of its existance. Tell me what you think, but I think that the removal should be RVed. -- Borisborf 06:45, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Wouldn't the SCSI connector just shortcircut the PPA3 (SCSI-Parallel converter) chip found in ordinary ZIP drives? And can we get a source on the compatability problems? Thanks. ~Netdroid9
The machines are actually that old, most having been purchased after the 2000 Bush-vs-Gore election troubles with punch-cards. [1]
In the first paragraph, it states that the ZIP drive has faded from popularity. wouldn't it be more accurate to say that it has disappeared almost entirely? 68.228.111.250 17:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
I've just found a Zip drive along with some old hardware. Any suggestions as to what to do with it? Paperweight, perhaps? — Chameleon 08:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
They still have some uses in computer audio and music : some recorders, synthesisers and samplers use them. Or XD-cards or SmartMedia or floppies ! That will persist for quite a while. -- 195.137.93.171 ( talk) 23:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I've never used a Zip drive and therefore know nothing of its interface. Will someone with information on the interface please update the article?-- Fermin ( talk) 22:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
In MS Windows, zip drives can be accessed through Windows Explorer: the OS assigns them a drive letter, if this is what you're asking. - Measure for Measure 14 March 2008
Are you sure its including the Z100USB model? Because I used to use one (the big blue, clear-cased version) and I remember CLEARLY that this does not happen (the morse code flashing) when the USB connection is unplugged AND powered on. Please correct me if I'm wrong or I guess you have the wrong model. There are a few Z100USB variants as stated here. Someone please review this as I have never seen this happening on other externally powered USB versions (the Z250USBPCM for instance). --Debug-GED 03:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Debug-GED ( talk • contribs)
Would someone mind clarifying what is meant by "the USB Zip 250 has an external ATAPI connection that is rarely used"? — User:ACupOfCoffee @ 04:30, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't suppose anyone knows the Power supply requirements for a Zip 100 Drive? Had a clear out, found an Zip 100 & no PSU. EDIT: Just acquired one, output is +5 Volts @ 1.0 Ampres —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.193.117 ( talk) 19:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
It would be good to list the power spec. on here anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.193.117 ( talk) 18:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
As a long time back in the day user of this stuff, anyone mind if I give this a good old fashioned country clean-up? There's NO mention of the 25mb disks it launched with, for a start, the speed estimate for floppies is crazy, and a few other things are off kilter... 193.63.174.10 ( talk) 13:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Anybody knows this for the 3 types of media? -- RokerHRO ( talk) 12:34, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
This article needs to be given a thorough once-through to remove the incorrect of "they", "them", "their", etc. that can't apply to an un-living object. Unless ZIP disks start to get together and develop awareness like The Terminator or Agent Smith, I must criticize this article as inaccurate and hard-to-read, or also unable to be read and understood from a proper perspective. Japanimation station ( talk) 05:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
"...nor could ever match the storage size available on rewritable CDs..." The Zip 750 held more than what has become the de-facto standard 80 minute / 703 megabyte CD-R/RW capacity. Bizzybody ( talk) 03:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
What's the large connector for on the back of the USB (not USB powered!) Zip 250? It looks like it's made for some sort of adapter to snap onto. Bizzybody ( talk) 03:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
The first model of the internal SCSI Zip 100 required a 5.25" half-height drive bay. Model Z100Si. Its circuit board was wider than the drive mechanism. It had a blue faceplate the same color as the external versions. It only supported SCSI ID 5 and 6, like the external version. Power connector was the same as for 3.5" floppy. I still have one, looking at it right now. My guess is this model was essentially the same as a prototype, rushed into production, with the external SCSI version a "shrink" to pack everything onto the smaller case. The 3.5" bay version soon followed and the 5.25" 'widebody' was discontinued. Front and top pics of this oddball drive at my Flickr page. Feel free to grab them for the article. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27748767@N08/ Bizzybody ( talk) 04:29, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
The internal Zip 100 came in three interfaces, SCSI in both 3.5" and 5.25" (see my Flickr page above for pics of the 5.25"), IDE and ATAPI, both only in 3.5". The IDE version has a black eject button with the activity LED beside it and an emergency eject pull rod slightly recessed at the upper left corner of the faceplate. The eject rod may be blocked by some 5.25" mounting brackets or computer case front plates with openings too small for installing the drive from the front/outside. The ATAPI version has a clear eject button the activity LED shines through and emergency eject is via pushing a pin or wire into a tiny hole on the back of the housing. Any emergency had better be a slow one because the computer has to be opened up to get at the eject hole. ;) Bizzybody ( talk) 04:40, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Pictures of a torn disk edge, taken with the slide held open, and a drive with the heads ripped from their actuator arms would be useful illustrations of the cause of click of death and drive damage caused by damaged disks, and an explanation of the "contagion" of click of death caused by a damaged disk ripping heads loose then the ruined drive damaging good disks, which can then destroy other good drives. I saw several of both when I worked at a computer shop, but never took pictures. Bizzybody ( talk) 04:44, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't think the new Popular Culture section is particularly notable and suggest it be stricken. Any comments? Tom94022 ( talk) 04:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
I've added some data back about the Zip stickers that shipped with most drives. I still have my original sheet which I could easily photograph if anyone would find it useful. I also found a source to support the information (verified and added to page). This is perhaps a bit of trivia, but it was part of the overall Zip experience that made the drives unique, thus I feel it warrants being added. Costner ( talk) 19:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I was told by tech support at FujiFilm many years ago that they developed the media for the Zip drives. Can anyone verify this? Jayscore ( talk) 17:09, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
The Zip disks were overpriced. I disassembled both a 100 Mb Zip disk and a 3.5 inch floppy. I did this by prying the plastic shells apart with a screwdriver. The two matched part for part. Every part of one type of disk had a nearly identical part in the other disk. The only difference was that the Zip disk shell was thicker. The Zip disks sold for 7 to 8 dollars. The 3.5 inch floppies sold for 20 to 40 cents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.22.236 ( talk) 04:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Floppy disks were disposable after a few uses, Zip disks had lifetime warranty! I still use them, either with IDE, USB or SCSI (it just flies!). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.249.17.120 ( talk) 00:48, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
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Zip Drive was so popular that in the mid 1990s, Iomega was worth more than General Motors-- something crazy like that. The Motley Fool wrote, Dec 16, 1999, in an article online called, "And Then There Was Light" that "In the fall of 1994, something revolutionary happened. Investors around the world met in one place online and began to piece together the complete business of one Utah company. The company's new product that they discussed hadn't even been released to the market yet. It hadn't been marketed. It was just rolling out of production. The company was Iomega (NYSE: IOM) and the product was, of course, its Zip drive, a simple portable data storage solution.... Within 13 months, the Fool's Iomega investment represented nearly half the portfolio's total value after having risen over 1,500%. The Zip drive became the best-selling computer peripheral device in history (a rank it still holds), with a million being sold every several weeks. Most major PC makers began to offer Zip drives in their "boxes." The possibility for a new data storage standard held strong. But not strong enough." First, they proved fragile; then the DVD killed them. But I remember the instant millionaires on paper, and near-hysterical financial articles about the Zip drive having "repealed the law of [stock market] gravity." The insane profits triggered the boom, then the first spectacular bust. This little bit of paleo-technology has an important social history. Profhum ( talk) 00:58, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Jeppesen distributes navigation database updates, and Universal Avionics supplies TAWS, UniLink and Performance databases for upload into flight management systems via solid-state data transfer units.[12][13] 139.138.6.121 ( talk) 09:20, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
@ Angelgreat: has asserted a series of incorrect dates in the info box for the discontinuance of ZIP. It took a simple search of SEC records to invalidate the earlier assertions. There is no doubt that production of drives and discs was discontinued by Iomega at some date and sales at some later date thereafter but the information should not be added to the info box until there is a WP:RS and it first should be added to the text of the article. Also note Iomega may have had licensees who continued production after Iomega discontinued. FWIW apparently Fuji Film still makes and sells ZIP discs and they are available tomorrow. Please see e.g.: [4] Most manufacturers are reluctant to announce a discontinuance so you may have a hard time finding a RS. Tom94022 ( talk) 20:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Why was it named the "Zip" drive? The article should state whether or not there is any relationship to Zip compression. cagliost ( talk) 14:53, 3 May 2023 (UTC)