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islam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.19.60 ( talk) 03:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
I know this is true, but we still can't include a huge statement like this unless we can back it up with several reliable sources. Basalisk inspect damage⁄ berate 18:48, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Not even in that case, I am afraid. It's not possible to prove a statement like that in such a way that it could fit an enciclopaedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.224.26.35 ( talk) 16:40, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Zidane is Algerian and not French. It's a grave misrepresentation to call him a french man, as he's ethnically a berber from kabylie, by descent. 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 21:52, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
By what definition is he French? What is french identity based on? What is the difference between having heritage and being a part of another nation? Do french people exist as a isolated group? Do French people retain a heritage? 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 21:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Your arguments are supposed to be objective, not partial. Your libeling doesn't suffice. You lined up empiricially unverifiable arbitrary reasons. Civic definitions aren't empirically valid for argumentative basis 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 22:15, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
@ @Pee"Zidane is French. End of story. Thanks." Is not an argument. And I know the subjective reasons for why he's pushed as French, his immense talent and legendary footballing skills is source of pride for ethnic french and other ethnic europeans who have absoloutely nothing to do with berbers or north-africans, nor his talent. It's very typical to regard sucessful second generation immigrants who're non-europeans as "europeans" just because their talent is respected and exceptional. But the fact is, he's a second generation immigrant. @FkPCascais, lots of foreigners play in european leagues and tournaments, do those people become european because they play on european soil? @Basilisk, I define per ethnicity(empirically measurable by genetic tests) and by academic discourse, which at the most would make him an ethnic algerian who grew up as a second generation immigrant in france. Look at this definition http://www.thefreedictionary.com/second-generation, it gives an exact definition of what he is. This is neither racist nor discriminating. It's truthful in all disciplines studying identity, and since is a matter of identity, you shouldn't be using arbitrary definitions, like nationality to define a person, since all nationality means is citizenship, it say nothing about real or perceived differences in ethnicity/culture/language etc. 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 06:15, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Lots of algerians in france are called arabs and immigrants, and are called entirely unfrench ethnic slurs like "bougnouls", and they're not called french. So I don't understand how your PC-logic deflects both academic discourse and reality at the same time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AList_of_ethnic_slurs_by_ethnicity/old#Arabs 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 06:26, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
What I'm trying to achieve is to correct a factual error, I'm trying to correct eurocentricism surrounding sucessful non-europeans in european countries. Which is strongly dishonest. The fact that he's refered to as french, doesn't mean he is french. So far I've provided factual arguments and sources. While everyone here disagrees and repeats ad nauseum that he's french, without providing a single source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 07:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Here:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Algerian, (Placename) of or relating to Algeria or its inhabitants
n
(Social Science / Peoples) a native or inhabitant of Algeria , He is an algerian because he ethnically is related to algeria and it's inhabitants, He's native to algeria by heritage. He passes all those criterias.
Here is another that supports my claim:
http://www.notablebiographies.com/supp/Supplement-Sp-Z/Zidane-Zin-dine.html
"Zidane was the fifth child of Smail and Malika Zidane. His parents arrived in France from the Kabylie region of northern Algeria in 1953.
Read more: http://www.notablebiographies.com/supp/Supplement-Sp-Z/Zidane-Zin-dine.html#ixzz2Tulsvn3c " In this article he's planning to return to his parents http://magharebia.com/en_GB/articles/awi/features/2006/07/17/feature-01
"Yes, of course I want to go back to where my roots are and the country of my parents and live that life. And I have to live it," Zidane said.
Bouteflika, who said he was "upset" by the incident, paid enthusiastic homage to the player. "I will always be delighted to welcome you here to your country, just as you are, with your family, at a time which suits you," Bouteflika wrote in the letter, which was reprinted by all Algerian press.
Because you have never forgotten the country of your roots, Algeria and Algerians are proud of you. They will never forget you," he added.
Zidane's family told Abbes they were touched by President Bouteflika's support.
"Your presence here is proof of President Abdelaziz Bouteflika's solidarity with all Algerians with regard to the defence of their honour," the Algerian press quoted Zidane's brother as saying to the minister.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/z/zinedine_zidane.html "My father is an Algerian, proud of who he is and I am proud that my father is Algerian."
http://magharebia.com/en_GB/articles/awi/features/2006/12/11/feature-01
"Former French football captain Zinedine Zidane and his parents kicked off a visit to their native Algeria on Monday (December 11th), where they will be welcomed by Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika before travelling to Boumerdes -- the town that suffered a debilitating earthquake in 2003. Zidane has been donating medical supplies to disaster-stricken inhabitants. " 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 08:55, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Agreed with Koncorde, I will implement changes eventually. 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 15:17, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
What's the problem with english located editors here? Why are you such daft eurocentrics? You're politicizing the entire thing and keeping this page in favor of your understanding. You have neither presented any criteria for what is french or anything, yet you keep single-mindedly insisting on this issue, even when i presented dozens of reliable sources that conflict with your . I'm sorry, but you don't determine group identity. A nationality doesn't amount to crap. 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 09:45, 26 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 09:12, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
So whats your criteria for belonging? Nationality only? 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 13:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
I believe what's going on here is a misunderstanding of nationality and ethnicity, which are two different concepts. Ethnicity has to do with ancestry, heritage, and lineage. Whereas nationality is determined namely by country of birth, or becoming a naturalized citizen in a country other than where one was born. When speaking of nationality one is probably speaking of where someone was born, where they vote, where they hold citizenship, and what country their passport was issued by. When speaking of ethnicity one is referencing the group of peoples they descend from. So in Zidane's case, he is a French national, evidence by his birth in France, growing up in France, being a French citizen and holding a French passport, as well as being the country he represented in international soccer/football; however, he is also an ethnic Algerian, specifically of Berber descend, evidenced by his heritage and lineage. Hope this helps. In a way all of you are right, you're just talking about two different things, namely, nationality and ethnicity. 72.14.70.188 ( talk) 07:31, 25 July 2013 (UTC)rigamortis
This is has still not been resolved -- we should go with the last consensus/ compromise, which means to put it in the personal section and get a reliable source for the information.
Karpouzi ( talk) 01:51, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
In the honours section it states that Zidane achieved third place at the Euro 1996 tournament with the French national team. This is not accurate as there was no third-place playoff held at that tournament (or any of the Euros since). It is therefore not possible to consider France the third-placed team in that tournament. This honour should either be removed, or be changed to "semi-finalist". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.14.132 ( talk) 00:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
In the section 1998 World Cup, it says:
I removed "finals" for over three years ago. Now I see that it's still there because Estel05 reverted it. It's clear that this was not in the finals. Maybe it is the group stages which is referred to but this needs to be sourced. Until that, it should be removed, which I will do now. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 15:37, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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Should this article include an Arabic transliteration of Zidane's name in the lead sentence? -- Muchness ( talk) 22:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
The question was discussed previously in 2006 , and consensus at the time was that the transliteration should be included in the body of the article but not the lead sentence (see survey and resolution). The issue has been raised again periodically over the years, so I'm filing this RfC to check whether the prior consensus has changed. -- Muchness ( talk) 22:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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Zinedine Zidane → Zinédine Zidane – His first name is Zinédine, with a diacritic on the first "e", not Zinedine. The Replicator ( talk) 22:54, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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Hey, i don't think an honour won as an assistant manager is needed to be added. Or is this common usage? Some articles would be pretty long ( Michael Henke e.g.)... Kante4 ( talk) 08:48, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
The first sentence should mention his current profession before his former profession. Also, "former footballer" is better language to use for someone who's not altogether retired. — Film Fan 19:00, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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When I listen to the pronunciation, given in IPA as [zinedin zidan], what I hear is more like [ziʒinedin zidan], with his first name having four syllables. I am tempted to remove the .ogg file, as mistaken and inconsistent with the IPA. Maproom ( talk) 19:52, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
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Just to add to the above RM discussion, UEFA shot all the green screens for this year's UCL final yesterday and asked all the players (plus Zidane) to say their names while holding a clapper board with their name on it. Zidane was presented with two options of how his name should be spelled (Zinedine or Zinédine) and he was very clear about the fact that his name should not have an accent on it. – Pee Jay 13:40, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
He isn't the only manager to win 3 consecutive European Cup finals.
Unai Emery won 3 Europa leagues in a row with Sevilla
2013/14 vs Benfica 2014/15 vs Dnipro 2015/16 vs Liverpool
Could someone please correct it to, "and only the second manager to win 3 consecutive European Cup finals" or "the only manager to win 3 consecutive Champions League finals" NShort44 ( talk) 01:39, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
"Change sonsider to consider" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.67.2.48 ( talk) 18:19, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
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This article reads like Zidane's website/resume. Is "Zidane was an elite playmaker, renowned for his elegance, vision, ball control and technique" not a NPOV violation? Is the appearance of each of those words once in a quote about him enough to generalize that he is "renowned" for those qualities?
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The perspective that he is "renowned..." is an opinion stated as fact in Wikipedia's voice.
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Zidane has more goals than what he has here, please check and change it Enochdawan ( talk) 01:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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The sentence currently says "Zidane... is a French former professional football player who played as an attacking midfielder..."
Propose change to "Zidane... is a French football manager and former professional player who played as an attacking midfielder..." to place what he is now on an equal footing with his former role.
This seems to be the standard format for other top players-turned top managers. -- 2605:E000:1300:8C69:DC28:8815:E4DD:F27C ( talk) 21:26, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
For Bordeaux
He went to the final of UEFA Cup in 1996 so the following should be added under Bordeaux section: UEFA Cup runner-up: 1995–1996
For Juventus
In the season 1996-97 for Juventus he played 1 game in the Intercontinental Cup 1996. Sources: https://www.worldfootball.net/report/weltpokal-1996-finale-juventus-river-plate/, Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfmJ_QnASO4 (him on the left after 6 seconds in the video)
In the season 1996-97 he played 2 games in the UEFA Super Cup 1996. Sources: Game 1; https://www.worldfootball.net/report/uefa-supercup-1996-endspiel-paris-st-germain-juventus/, Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqdcvic0vKU (Him in line up after 53 seconds in the video) Game 2; https://www.worldfootball.net/report/uefa-supercup-1996-finale-juventus-paris-saint-germain/, Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCAVjwRzoG0 (Him in line up after 23 seconds in the video)
So he has 13 games and not 10 games in the continental category in 1996-97, 44 games and not 41 games in total in 1996-97, 44 games and not 41 games in total in the continental category and 212 games and not 209 games for Juventus in Total.
For Real Madrid
In the season 2002-03 he played 1 game in the Intercontinental Cup 2002 source:
https://www.worldfootball.net/report/weltpokal-2002-endspiel-real-madrid-olimpia-asuncion/,
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54XAMxTjwI (se him after 1 second)
In the season 2002-03 he played 1 game in the UEFA Super Cup 2002 source:
https://www.worldfootball.net/report/uefa-supercup-2002-endspiel-real-madrid-feyenoord-rotterdam/
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-nY4hI0O5A (se him after 1 second with ball)
So he has 16 games and not 14 games in the continental category in 2002-03, 50 games and not 48 games in total in 2002-03, 49 games and not 47 games in total in the continental category and 227 games and not 225 games in total for Real Madrid which is also backed up by the Real Madrid homepage source: https://www.realmadrid.com/en/about-real-madrid/history/football-legends/zinedine-zidane
So in career total he has 122 and not 117 games in the continental category and 689 and not 684 games in the total category.
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He retired as the fourth-most capped player in France history. Change France to French history It is an adjective or France's history 181.74.50.158 ( talk) 05:03, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
The page tells "Only player in history to be named player of the year in 3 of the Top 5 Leagues: Division 1 Player of the Year (1996), Serie A Footballer of the Year (2001), Don Balón Award (2002)[307]". I think it should be adjusted now that Cristiano Ronaldo was named player of the year in the Premier League (2007 & 2008), La Liga (2014 & 2017) and Serie A (2019). Right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.31.83.190 ( talk) 17:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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islam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.19.60 ( talk) 03:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
I know this is true, but we still can't include a huge statement like this unless we can back it up with several reliable sources. Basalisk inspect damage⁄ berate 18:48, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Not even in that case, I am afraid. It's not possible to prove a statement like that in such a way that it could fit an enciclopaedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.224.26.35 ( talk) 16:40, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Zidane is Algerian and not French. It's a grave misrepresentation to call him a french man, as he's ethnically a berber from kabylie, by descent. 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 21:52, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
By what definition is he French? What is french identity based on? What is the difference between having heritage and being a part of another nation? Do french people exist as a isolated group? Do French people retain a heritage? 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 21:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Your arguments are supposed to be objective, not partial. Your libeling doesn't suffice. You lined up empiricially unverifiable arbitrary reasons. Civic definitions aren't empirically valid for argumentative basis 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 22:15, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
@ @Pee"Zidane is French. End of story. Thanks." Is not an argument. And I know the subjective reasons for why he's pushed as French, his immense talent and legendary footballing skills is source of pride for ethnic french and other ethnic europeans who have absoloutely nothing to do with berbers or north-africans, nor his talent. It's very typical to regard sucessful second generation immigrants who're non-europeans as "europeans" just because their talent is respected and exceptional. But the fact is, he's a second generation immigrant. @FkPCascais, lots of foreigners play in european leagues and tournaments, do those people become european because they play on european soil? @Basilisk, I define per ethnicity(empirically measurable by genetic tests) and by academic discourse, which at the most would make him an ethnic algerian who grew up as a second generation immigrant in france. Look at this definition http://www.thefreedictionary.com/second-generation, it gives an exact definition of what he is. This is neither racist nor discriminating. It's truthful in all disciplines studying identity, and since is a matter of identity, you shouldn't be using arbitrary definitions, like nationality to define a person, since all nationality means is citizenship, it say nothing about real or perceived differences in ethnicity/culture/language etc. 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 06:15, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Lots of algerians in france are called arabs and immigrants, and are called entirely unfrench ethnic slurs like "bougnouls", and they're not called french. So I don't understand how your PC-logic deflects both academic discourse and reality at the same time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AList_of_ethnic_slurs_by_ethnicity/old#Arabs 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 06:26, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
What I'm trying to achieve is to correct a factual error, I'm trying to correct eurocentricism surrounding sucessful non-europeans in european countries. Which is strongly dishonest. The fact that he's refered to as french, doesn't mean he is french. So far I've provided factual arguments and sources. While everyone here disagrees and repeats ad nauseum that he's french, without providing a single source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 07:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Here:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Algerian, (Placename) of or relating to Algeria or its inhabitants
n
(Social Science / Peoples) a native or inhabitant of Algeria , He is an algerian because he ethnically is related to algeria and it's inhabitants, He's native to algeria by heritage. He passes all those criterias.
Here is another that supports my claim:
http://www.notablebiographies.com/supp/Supplement-Sp-Z/Zidane-Zin-dine.html
"Zidane was the fifth child of Smail and Malika Zidane. His parents arrived in France from the Kabylie region of northern Algeria in 1953.
Read more: http://www.notablebiographies.com/supp/Supplement-Sp-Z/Zidane-Zin-dine.html#ixzz2Tulsvn3c " In this article he's planning to return to his parents http://magharebia.com/en_GB/articles/awi/features/2006/07/17/feature-01
"Yes, of course I want to go back to where my roots are and the country of my parents and live that life. And I have to live it," Zidane said.
Bouteflika, who said he was "upset" by the incident, paid enthusiastic homage to the player. "I will always be delighted to welcome you here to your country, just as you are, with your family, at a time which suits you," Bouteflika wrote in the letter, which was reprinted by all Algerian press.
Because you have never forgotten the country of your roots, Algeria and Algerians are proud of you. They will never forget you," he added.
Zidane's family told Abbes they were touched by President Bouteflika's support.
"Your presence here is proof of President Abdelaziz Bouteflika's solidarity with all Algerians with regard to the defence of their honour," the Algerian press quoted Zidane's brother as saying to the minister.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/z/zinedine_zidane.html "My father is an Algerian, proud of who he is and I am proud that my father is Algerian."
http://magharebia.com/en_GB/articles/awi/features/2006/12/11/feature-01
"Former French football captain Zinedine Zidane and his parents kicked off a visit to their native Algeria on Monday (December 11th), where they will be welcomed by Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika before travelling to Boumerdes -- the town that suffered a debilitating earthquake in 2003. Zidane has been donating medical supplies to disaster-stricken inhabitants. " 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 08:55, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Agreed with Koncorde, I will implement changes eventually. 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 15:17, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
What's the problem with english located editors here? Why are you such daft eurocentrics? You're politicizing the entire thing and keeping this page in favor of your understanding. You have neither presented any criteria for what is french or anything, yet you keep single-mindedly insisting on this issue, even when i presented dozens of reliable sources that conflict with your . I'm sorry, but you don't determine group identity. A nationality doesn't amount to crap. 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 09:45, 26 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 09:12, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
So whats your criteria for belonging? Nationality only? 176.10.208.167 ( talk) 13:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
I believe what's going on here is a misunderstanding of nationality and ethnicity, which are two different concepts. Ethnicity has to do with ancestry, heritage, and lineage. Whereas nationality is determined namely by country of birth, or becoming a naturalized citizen in a country other than where one was born. When speaking of nationality one is probably speaking of where someone was born, where they vote, where they hold citizenship, and what country their passport was issued by. When speaking of ethnicity one is referencing the group of peoples they descend from. So in Zidane's case, he is a French national, evidence by his birth in France, growing up in France, being a French citizen and holding a French passport, as well as being the country he represented in international soccer/football; however, he is also an ethnic Algerian, specifically of Berber descend, evidenced by his heritage and lineage. Hope this helps. In a way all of you are right, you're just talking about two different things, namely, nationality and ethnicity. 72.14.70.188 ( talk) 07:31, 25 July 2013 (UTC)rigamortis
This is has still not been resolved -- we should go with the last consensus/ compromise, which means to put it in the personal section and get a reliable source for the information.
Karpouzi ( talk) 01:51, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
In the honours section it states that Zidane achieved third place at the Euro 1996 tournament with the French national team. This is not accurate as there was no third-place playoff held at that tournament (or any of the Euros since). It is therefore not possible to consider France the third-placed team in that tournament. This honour should either be removed, or be changed to "semi-finalist". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.14.132 ( talk) 00:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
In the section 1998 World Cup, it says:
I removed "finals" for over three years ago. Now I see that it's still there because Estel05 reverted it. It's clear that this was not in the finals. Maybe it is the group stages which is referred to but this needs to be sourced. Until that, it should be removed, which I will do now. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 15:37, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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Should this article include an Arabic transliteration of Zidane's name in the lead sentence? -- Muchness ( talk) 22:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
The question was discussed previously in 2006 , and consensus at the time was that the transliteration should be included in the body of the article but not the lead sentence (see survey and resolution). The issue has been raised again periodically over the years, so I'm filing this RfC to check whether the prior consensus has changed. -- Muchness ( talk) 22:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: no consensus.( non-admin closure) Eventhorizon51 ( talk) 19:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Zinedine Zidane → Zinédine Zidane – His first name is Zinédine, with a diacritic on the first "e", not Zinedine. The Replicator ( talk) 22:54, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Whatever their reasons for so doing, English-language RS use the unaccented version more often than the accented. We'd need convincing evidence of correctness to move away from WP:COMMONNAME and WP:UE, and we haven't got it. cheers, Struway2 ( talk) 12:07, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Hey, i don't think an honour won as an assistant manager is needed to be added. Or is this common usage? Some articles would be pretty long ( Michael Henke e.g.)... Kante4 ( talk) 08:48, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
The first sentence should mention his current profession before his former profession. Also, "former footballer" is better language to use for someone who's not altogether retired. — Film Fan 19:00, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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When I listen to the pronunciation, given in IPA as [zinedin zidan], what I hear is more like [ziʒinedin zidan], with his first name having four syllables. I am tempted to remove the .ogg file, as mistaken and inconsistent with the IPA. Maproom ( talk) 19:52, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
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Just to add to the above RM discussion, UEFA shot all the green screens for this year's UCL final yesterday and asked all the players (plus Zidane) to say their names while holding a clapper board with their name on it. Zidane was presented with two options of how his name should be spelled (Zinedine or Zinédine) and he was very clear about the fact that his name should not have an accent on it. – Pee Jay 13:40, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
He isn't the only manager to win 3 consecutive European Cup finals.
Unai Emery won 3 Europa leagues in a row with Sevilla
2013/14 vs Benfica 2014/15 vs Dnipro 2015/16 vs Liverpool
Could someone please correct it to, "and only the second manager to win 3 consecutive European Cup finals" or "the only manager to win 3 consecutive Champions League finals" NShort44 ( talk) 01:39, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
"Change sonsider to consider" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.67.2.48 ( talk) 18:19, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
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This article reads like Zidane's website/resume. Is "Zidane was an elite playmaker, renowned for his elegance, vision, ball control and technique" not a NPOV violation? Is the appearance of each of those words once in a quote about him enough to generalize that he is "renowned" for those qualities?
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The perspective that he is "renowned..." is an opinion stated as fact in Wikipedia's voice.
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Zidane has more goals than what he has here, please check and change it Enochdawan ( talk) 01:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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Add Religion of Zinedine Zidane 2409:4040:415:17C5:355A:8A0B:10A9:C292 ( talk) 23:04, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
The sentence currently says "Zidane... is a French former professional football player who played as an attacking midfielder..."
Propose change to "Zidane... is a French football manager and former professional player who played as an attacking midfielder..." to place what he is now on an equal footing with his former role.
This seems to be the standard format for other top players-turned top managers. -- 2605:E000:1300:8C69:DC28:8815:E4DD:F27C ( talk) 21:26, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
For Bordeaux
He went to the final of UEFA Cup in 1996 so the following should be added under Bordeaux section: UEFA Cup runner-up: 1995–1996
For Juventus
In the season 1996-97 for Juventus he played 1 game in the Intercontinental Cup 1996. Sources: https://www.worldfootball.net/report/weltpokal-1996-finale-juventus-river-plate/, Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfmJ_QnASO4 (him on the left after 6 seconds in the video)
In the season 1996-97 he played 2 games in the UEFA Super Cup 1996. Sources: Game 1; https://www.worldfootball.net/report/uefa-supercup-1996-endspiel-paris-st-germain-juventus/, Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqdcvic0vKU (Him in line up after 53 seconds in the video) Game 2; https://www.worldfootball.net/report/uefa-supercup-1996-finale-juventus-paris-saint-germain/, Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCAVjwRzoG0 (Him in line up after 23 seconds in the video)
So he has 13 games and not 10 games in the continental category in 1996-97, 44 games and not 41 games in total in 1996-97, 44 games and not 41 games in total in the continental category and 212 games and not 209 games for Juventus in Total.
For Real Madrid
In the season 2002-03 he played 1 game in the Intercontinental Cup 2002 source:
https://www.worldfootball.net/report/weltpokal-2002-endspiel-real-madrid-olimpia-asuncion/,
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54XAMxTjwI (se him after 1 second)
In the season 2002-03 he played 1 game in the UEFA Super Cup 2002 source:
https://www.worldfootball.net/report/uefa-supercup-2002-endspiel-real-madrid-feyenoord-rotterdam/
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-nY4hI0O5A (se him after 1 second with ball)
So he has 16 games and not 14 games in the continental category in 2002-03, 50 games and not 48 games in total in 2002-03, 49 games and not 47 games in total in the continental category and 227 games and not 225 games in total for Real Madrid which is also backed up by the Real Madrid homepage source: https://www.realmadrid.com/en/about-real-madrid/history/football-legends/zinedine-zidane
So in career total he has 122 and not 117 games in the continental category and 689 and not 684 games in the total category.
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He retired as the fourth-most capped player in France history. Change France to French history It is an adjective or France's history 181.74.50.158 ( talk) 05:03, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
The page tells "Only player in history to be named player of the year in 3 of the Top 5 Leagues: Division 1 Player of the Year (1996), Serie A Footballer of the Year (2001), Don Balón Award (2002)[307]". I think it should be adjusted now that Cristiano Ronaldo was named player of the year in the Premier League (2007 & 2008), La Liga (2014 & 2017) and Serie A (2019). Right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.31.83.190 ( talk) 17:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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grammar - remove ‘was’ from “He was most recently coached Real Madrid” 42.60.19.50 ( talk) 07:38, 19 October 2021 (UTC)