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In the lead, please change the first "was" to "is"; he still is "...in ancient Greek religion". 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:E9E4:907C:2027:59D6 ( talk) 20:53, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
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zues first wife is hera . zues roman name is Jupiter he can transform into anything he wants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.171.173 ( talk) 23:50, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
This is not a coherent comment. Heptanitrocubane ( talk) 20:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
There is a large gap under that subtitle, could someone remove it? Thanks, Heptanitrocubane ( talk) 20:25, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
It says the pronunciation is /zjuːs/, yet in most dialects of english, /j/ is dropped in this case. Should this be changed to /zuːs/ or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdog1102 ( talk • contribs) 20:58, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
A note at the bottom of the article explains that, according to Hesiod's Theogony, Zeus had 7 wives. Who were the wives and what was the order of marriage. My understanding is that the first was the Oceanid Metis.
ICE77 ( talk) 06:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I eventually read the original text from Theogony (886-923) and resolved the issue (reason for removing unnecessary text).
ICE77 ( talk) 00:42, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
The section on the infancy of Zeus states that "Rhea hid Zeus in a cave on Mount Ida in Crete". This is only true according to Diodorus Siculus (Bibliotheca historica, Book V 70.1-3). Therefore, the statement should be followed by a source.
The article then lists the variants on the infancy of Zeus but none of them has a source:
1. He was then raised by Gaia.
2. He was raised by a goat named Amalthea, while a company of Kouretes— soldiers, or smaller gods— danced, shouted and clashed their spears against their shields so that Cronus would not hear the baby's cry (see cornucopia). According to some versions of this story he was reared by Amalthea in a cave called Dictaeon Andron (Psychro Cave) in Lasithi plateau.
3. He was raised by a nymph named Adamanthea. Since Cronus ruled over the Earth, the heavens and the sea, she hid him by dangling him on a rope from a tree so he was suspended between earth, sea and sky and thus, invisible to his father.
4. He was raised by a nymph named Cynosura. In gratitude, Zeus placed her among the stars.
5. He was raised by Melissa, who nursed him with goat's milk and honey.
6. He was raised by a shepherd family under the promise that their sheep would be saved from wolves.
For items 1, 4, 5 and 6 I have no clue where they come from (I would like to know).
Item 2 is in line with Diodorus Siculus (Bibliotheca historica, Book V 70.1-3). However, Diodorus Siculus mentions Mount Idê which is Idaeon Antron (Ἰδαίον Ἄντρον) in the center of Crete and not Dictaeon Antron (Δικταῖον Ἄντρον) in the east of Crete. The only time Dictaeon Antron is mentioned is with Pseudo-Apollodorus (Bibliotheca, 1.1.6). Item 2 should be split into two. It's not the same story.
Item 3 is inline with Hyginus (Fabulae, 139) but I am skeptical Hyginus mentioned Adamanthea since I saw notes on the Perseus Digital Library using Amalthea (I could not check Hyginus however since it's not available on either the Perseus Digital Library or Theoi). I anybody has an online source please provide it.
I have done a considerable amount of reading on the subject and I can state this for 5 texts:
I suggest to update the article with the notes I typed above and to clarify/produce notes for items 1, 4, 5 and 6 of the current list. The infancy section needs sources!
ICE77 ( talk) 01:47, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Here's the summary for item 3 which confirms the "nymph Adamanthea" is actually "nurse Amalthea":
ICE77 ( talk) 06:55, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I removed sources 1, 4, 5 and 6 since they have no sources whatsoever. I previously provided sources for items 2 and 3 above which I updates accordingly. Feel free to add the 3 other sources I provided to the article (Hesiod, Callimachus and Diodorus Siculus).
ICE77 ( talk) 20:13, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
William Smith is not an original source. He wrote in the 1800s and all he does is to paraphrase a story that is consistent with Hesiod which I already paraphrased above (Theogony, 453-489). He mentions Diktaeon Antron (east of Crete) and Idaeon Antron (central Crete) which I both visited and a bunch of other places with no sources whatsoever - therefore not much useful. Also, the reference to "Hesiod (Theog. 116, &c.)" does not even seem correct since that part of Theogony covers the Cosmogony and not the birth of Zeus. You can see Theoi ( http://www.theoi.com/Text/HesiodTheogony.html#2) and Perseus Digital Library ( http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0104%3Aalphabetic+letter%3DZ%3Aentry+group%3D2%3Aentry%3Dzeus-bio-1).
ICE77 ( talk) 06:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Note 85 says "According to Hesiod, Theogony 886–890, of Zeus' children by his seven wives, Athena was the first to be conceived, but the last to be born; Zeus impregnated Metis then swallowed her, later Zeus himself gave birth to Athena "from his head", see Gantz, pp. 51–52, 83–84."
I would like to change the note to "According to Hesiod's Theogony ( 886-923), Zeus had seven wives or companions. Zeus impregnated his first wife Metis and then swallowed her. Therefore, Athena was the first child to be conceived. Later Zeus himself gave birth to Athena from his head".
The reason for the request is that I do not see an indication for Athena to have been the last child to be born in the literature I have read so far - Hesiod (Theogony, 886-900 and 929a-929t) and Pseudo-Apollodorus (Bibliotheca, 1.3.7). Yes, it is correct to say she was born after Zeus wedded Hera but I am not aware of a text that says she was truly the last child of Zeus (if you know of a text I'd like to know what it is).
ICE77 ( talk) 01:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
It says under the Trojan War "Achilles (his son)" but Achilles' parents are Thetis and Peleus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.77.27 ( talk) 03:28, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Inexplicably, this write-up omits any mention of the Vedic god Indra who rules over the Vedic pantheon and uses lightning as his weapon. At the very least Indra should be mentioned under "foreign gods". Sooku ( talk) 08:26, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
The last sentence in the middle part of Zeus's notable conflicts seems oddly creationist to me.
When Zeus was atop Mount Olympus he grew upset with mankind and the sacrifices they were performing on one another. Furiously, he decided it would be smart to wipe out mankind with a gigantic flood using the help of his brother Poseidon, King of the Seas. Killing every human except Deucalion and Pyrrha, Zeus flooded the entire planet but then realized he then had to restore society with new people. After clearing all the water, he had Deucalion and Pyrrah create humans to repopulate the earth using stones that became humans. These stones represented the "hardness" of mankind and the man life. This story has been told different ways and in different time periods between Ancient Greek Mythology and The Bible, although the base of the story remains true.[79]
"altough the base of the story remains true" Very weird ending to a paragraph about a mythological tale of a great flood wiping out mankind. The source is a christian website.
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NvL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A04:AE04:7C03:4800:D0FA:A443:D100:9BD ( talk) 15:44, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
That *gestures to the top comment* is definitely true. I read about it in a book on Grecian myths Dragonlover21 ( talk) 19:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)<
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zeus is the god of lightning not thunder 117.97.179.67 ( talk) 11:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Zeus is the god of both lightning and thunder. Dragonlover21 ( talk) 19:08, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
I note that there are differing versions of the myths. However, labelling the mortals as consorts seems to come down on the side of seduction quite heavily. My suggestion is to change 'Divine Lovers' to 'Divinities' and 'Consort' to 'Mortals'.
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In the section "Family-- Zeus and Hera" it is implied that they had Ares, Hebe, and Hephaestus, or Hera had them herself. However, only Hephaestus was possibly produced by only Hera and the other two were offspring of both, not Hera's alone. 2601:646:8600:C310:7D56:B599:A01B:5582 ( talk) 01:42, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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"Mythology" section, "Infancy" subsection: Change "A a company of soldiers called Kouretes danced, shouted and clashed their spears against their shields so that Cronus would not hear the baby's cry." to "A company of soldiers called Kouretes danced, shouted and clashed their spears against their shields so that Cronus would not hear the baby's cry. Wjstrazzy ( talk) 21:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC) Wjstrazzy ( talk) 21:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
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Zeus was the king of all gods — Preceding unsigned comment added by X2zynx ( talk • contribs) 19:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Two things to consider: Zeus, though prominent, was not necessarily "king of the gods"; and, secondly, Perun is likely Neptune/Poseidon and NOT Zeus... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5CC:8200:8DB0:F1BD:18C9:B07D:9413 ( talk) 10:47, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
The way the article is currently written, it suggests that Sean Bean voiced Zeus in Blood of Zeus, rather than Jason O'Mara, who actually voiced him. I suggest the change from "Rip Torn in the Disney animated feature Hercules, Sean Bean in Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Lightning Thief (2010). and the Netflix movie Blood of Zeus." to "Rip Torn in the Disney animated feature Hercules; Sean Bean in Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Lightning Thief (2010); and Jason O'Mara the Netflix movie Blood of Zeus." Rokkema ( talk) 23:17, 3 August 2021 (UTC)Rokkema
Done Though the section may be overpadded IMO. Knowing the many representations may be valid but not necessarily the players.
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Aphrodite is not the child of Zeus, she is in fact his aunt. There is an error on this page which states she is his daughter. Thanks. 209.52.62.19 ( talk) 07:41, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
This is not an error. It depends on the source. Hesiod states that Aphrodite is his aunt, while Homer states that she is his daughter. NeoSIMIAN-Terraform ( talk) 10:26, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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Apollo, Artemis | Leto |
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Muses ( Calliope, Clio, Euterpe, Erato, Melpomene, Polyhymnia, Terpsichore, Thalia, Urania) | Mnemosyne |
Dionysus | Semele |
Moirai ( Atropos, Clotho, Lachesis), Horae ( Dike, Eirene, Eunomia) | Themis |
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it said that zeus was not pleased with humans sacrifices so he and Poseidon flooded the world. That sounds very similar to in the story if the jews when the flood that wiped out all of man.
DMPenguin ( talk) 21:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
It sounds similar to any number of flood myths from various eras and cultures. The typical story is that one or more deities get angry and proceed to destroy the majority of humanity. Some of the myths may reflect fragmented memories of real-life floods, such as the one which is thought to have damaged the city of Shuruppak at the end of the Jemdet Nasr period. Others may reflect memories of real-life tsunamis, like the one caused by the Minoan eruption. Basically, people survive a natural disaster and mythmakers try to explain why it happened. Dimadick ( talk) 08:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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Zeus is the god of lightning 203.206.28.227 ( talk) 06:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
In this edit, @ Paul August: removed the entire "in modern culture" section. Although I agree that that section had too much detail and too many trivial mentions, I do not agree that the section should be removed. In fact, I'd argue that the section should be renamed "In art and culture", and cover not just modern novels and films, but also depictions of Zeus in art through the ages, including works by Titian, Rubens, Ingres, Renoir, Thorvaldsen, etc. -- Macrakis ( talk) 22:36, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
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In the lead, please change the first "was" to "is"; he still is "...in ancient Greek religion". 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:E9E4:907C:2027:59D6 ( talk) 20:53, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
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zues first wife is hera . zues roman name is Jupiter he can transform into anything he wants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.171.173 ( talk) 23:50, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
This is not a coherent comment. Heptanitrocubane ( talk) 20:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
There is a large gap under that subtitle, could someone remove it? Thanks, Heptanitrocubane ( talk) 20:25, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
It says the pronunciation is /zjuːs/, yet in most dialects of english, /j/ is dropped in this case. Should this be changed to /zuːs/ or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdog1102 ( talk • contribs) 20:58, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
A note at the bottom of the article explains that, according to Hesiod's Theogony, Zeus had 7 wives. Who were the wives and what was the order of marriage. My understanding is that the first was the Oceanid Metis.
ICE77 ( talk) 06:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I eventually read the original text from Theogony (886-923) and resolved the issue (reason for removing unnecessary text).
ICE77 ( talk) 00:42, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
The section on the infancy of Zeus states that "Rhea hid Zeus in a cave on Mount Ida in Crete". This is only true according to Diodorus Siculus (Bibliotheca historica, Book V 70.1-3). Therefore, the statement should be followed by a source.
The article then lists the variants on the infancy of Zeus but none of them has a source:
1. He was then raised by Gaia.
2. He was raised by a goat named Amalthea, while a company of Kouretes— soldiers, or smaller gods— danced, shouted and clashed their spears against their shields so that Cronus would not hear the baby's cry (see cornucopia). According to some versions of this story he was reared by Amalthea in a cave called Dictaeon Andron (Psychro Cave) in Lasithi plateau.
3. He was raised by a nymph named Adamanthea. Since Cronus ruled over the Earth, the heavens and the sea, she hid him by dangling him on a rope from a tree so he was suspended between earth, sea and sky and thus, invisible to his father.
4. He was raised by a nymph named Cynosura. In gratitude, Zeus placed her among the stars.
5. He was raised by Melissa, who nursed him with goat's milk and honey.
6. He was raised by a shepherd family under the promise that their sheep would be saved from wolves.
For items 1, 4, 5 and 6 I have no clue where they come from (I would like to know).
Item 2 is in line with Diodorus Siculus (Bibliotheca historica, Book V 70.1-3). However, Diodorus Siculus mentions Mount Idê which is Idaeon Antron (Ἰδαίον Ἄντρον) in the center of Crete and not Dictaeon Antron (Δικταῖον Ἄντρον) in the east of Crete. The only time Dictaeon Antron is mentioned is with Pseudo-Apollodorus (Bibliotheca, 1.1.6). Item 2 should be split into two. It's not the same story.
Item 3 is inline with Hyginus (Fabulae, 139) but I am skeptical Hyginus mentioned Adamanthea since I saw notes on the Perseus Digital Library using Amalthea (I could not check Hyginus however since it's not available on either the Perseus Digital Library or Theoi). I anybody has an online source please provide it.
I have done a considerable amount of reading on the subject and I can state this for 5 texts:
I suggest to update the article with the notes I typed above and to clarify/produce notes for items 1, 4, 5 and 6 of the current list. The infancy section needs sources!
ICE77 ( talk) 01:47, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Here's the summary for item 3 which confirms the "nymph Adamanthea" is actually "nurse Amalthea":
ICE77 ( talk) 06:55, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I removed sources 1, 4, 5 and 6 since they have no sources whatsoever. I previously provided sources for items 2 and 3 above which I updates accordingly. Feel free to add the 3 other sources I provided to the article (Hesiod, Callimachus and Diodorus Siculus).
ICE77 ( talk) 20:13, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
William Smith is not an original source. He wrote in the 1800s and all he does is to paraphrase a story that is consistent with Hesiod which I already paraphrased above (Theogony, 453-489). He mentions Diktaeon Antron (east of Crete) and Idaeon Antron (central Crete) which I both visited and a bunch of other places with no sources whatsoever - therefore not much useful. Also, the reference to "Hesiod (Theog. 116, &c.)" does not even seem correct since that part of Theogony covers the Cosmogony and not the birth of Zeus. You can see Theoi ( http://www.theoi.com/Text/HesiodTheogony.html#2) and Perseus Digital Library ( http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0104%3Aalphabetic+letter%3DZ%3Aentry+group%3D2%3Aentry%3Dzeus-bio-1).
ICE77 ( talk) 06:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Note 85 says "According to Hesiod, Theogony 886–890, of Zeus' children by his seven wives, Athena was the first to be conceived, but the last to be born; Zeus impregnated Metis then swallowed her, later Zeus himself gave birth to Athena "from his head", see Gantz, pp. 51–52, 83–84."
I would like to change the note to "According to Hesiod's Theogony ( 886-923), Zeus had seven wives or companions. Zeus impregnated his first wife Metis and then swallowed her. Therefore, Athena was the first child to be conceived. Later Zeus himself gave birth to Athena from his head".
The reason for the request is that I do not see an indication for Athena to have been the last child to be born in the literature I have read so far - Hesiod (Theogony, 886-900 and 929a-929t) and Pseudo-Apollodorus (Bibliotheca, 1.3.7). Yes, it is correct to say she was born after Zeus wedded Hera but I am not aware of a text that says she was truly the last child of Zeus (if you know of a text I'd like to know what it is).
ICE77 ( talk) 01:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
It says under the Trojan War "Achilles (his son)" but Achilles' parents are Thetis and Peleus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.77.27 ( talk) 03:28, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Inexplicably, this write-up omits any mention of the Vedic god Indra who rules over the Vedic pantheon and uses lightning as his weapon. At the very least Indra should be mentioned under "foreign gods". Sooku ( talk) 08:26, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
The last sentence in the middle part of Zeus's notable conflicts seems oddly creationist to me.
When Zeus was atop Mount Olympus he grew upset with mankind and the sacrifices they were performing on one another. Furiously, he decided it would be smart to wipe out mankind with a gigantic flood using the help of his brother Poseidon, King of the Seas. Killing every human except Deucalion and Pyrrha, Zeus flooded the entire planet but then realized he then had to restore society with new people. After clearing all the water, he had Deucalion and Pyrrah create humans to repopulate the earth using stones that became humans. These stones represented the "hardness" of mankind and the man life. This story has been told different ways and in different time periods between Ancient Greek Mythology and The Bible, although the base of the story remains true.[79]
"altough the base of the story remains true" Very weird ending to a paragraph about a mythological tale of a great flood wiping out mankind. The source is a christian website.
I´m sorry if i have made any technical mistakes. First time editing.
NvL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A04:AE04:7C03:4800:D0FA:A443:D100:9BD ( talk) 15:44, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
That *gestures to the top comment* is definitely true. I read about it in a book on Grecian myths Dragonlover21 ( talk) 19:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)<
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zeus is the god of lightning not thunder 117.97.179.67 ( talk) 11:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Zeus is the god of both lightning and thunder. Dragonlover21 ( talk) 19:08, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
I note that there are differing versions of the myths. However, labelling the mortals as consorts seems to come down on the side of seduction quite heavily. My suggestion is to change 'Divine Lovers' to 'Divinities' and 'Consort' to 'Mortals'.
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In the section "Family-- Zeus and Hera" it is implied that they had Ares, Hebe, and Hephaestus, or Hera had them herself. However, only Hephaestus was possibly produced by only Hera and the other two were offspring of both, not Hera's alone. 2601:646:8600:C310:7D56:B599:A01B:5582 ( talk) 01:42, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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"Mythology" section, "Infancy" subsection: Change "A a company of soldiers called Kouretes danced, shouted and clashed their spears against their shields so that Cronus would not hear the baby's cry." to "A company of soldiers called Kouretes danced, shouted and clashed their spears against their shields so that Cronus would not hear the baby's cry. Wjstrazzy ( talk) 21:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC) Wjstrazzy ( talk) 21:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
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Zeus was the king of all gods — Preceding unsigned comment added by X2zynx ( talk • contribs) 19:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Two things to consider: Zeus, though prominent, was not necessarily "king of the gods"; and, secondly, Perun is likely Neptune/Poseidon and NOT Zeus... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5CC:8200:8DB0:F1BD:18C9:B07D:9413 ( talk) 10:47, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
The way the article is currently written, it suggests that Sean Bean voiced Zeus in Blood of Zeus, rather than Jason O'Mara, who actually voiced him. I suggest the change from "Rip Torn in the Disney animated feature Hercules, Sean Bean in Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Lightning Thief (2010). and the Netflix movie Blood of Zeus." to "Rip Torn in the Disney animated feature Hercules; Sean Bean in Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Lightning Thief (2010); and Jason O'Mara the Netflix movie Blood of Zeus." Rokkema ( talk) 23:17, 3 August 2021 (UTC)Rokkema
Done Though the section may be overpadded IMO. Knowing the many representations may be valid but not necessarily the players.
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Aphrodite is not the child of Zeus, she is in fact his aunt. There is an error on this page which states she is his daughter. Thanks. 209.52.62.19 ( talk) 07:41, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
This is not an error. It depends on the source. Hesiod states that Aphrodite is his aunt, while Homer states that she is his daughter. NeoSIMIAN-Terraform ( talk) 10:26, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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Offspring | Mother |
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Angelos, Ares,3 Arge, Eileithyia, Eleutheria, Enyo, Eris, Hebe,3 Hephaestus,3 | Hera |
Offspring | Mother |
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Heracles | Alcmene |
Persephone | Demeter |
Charites/ Graces ( Aglaea, Euphrosyne, Thalia) | Eurynome |
Ares, Eileithyia, Hebe | Hera |
Apollo, Artemis | Leto |
Hermes | Maia |
Athena | Metis |
Muses ( Calliope, Clio, Euterpe, Erato, Melpomene, Polyhymnia, Terpsichore, Thalia, Urania) | Mnemosyne |
Dionysus | Semele |
Moirai ( Atropos, Clotho, Lachesis), Horae ( Dike, Eirene, Eunomia) | Themis |
@ NebY:, @ Michael Aurel: I have excluded everything with a cn tag and the genealogies already mentioned in the "Hesiod" table from the "other sources" tables in my sandbox. Should we change the tables now, or wait until everything is cited? Or should we rather not change at all? Also, what to do with the six "footnotes" that are below the tables? NeoSIMIAN-Terraform ( talk) 10:28, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
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it said that zeus was not pleased with humans sacrifices so he and Poseidon flooded the world. That sounds very similar to in the story if the jews when the flood that wiped out all of man.
DMPenguin ( talk) 21:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
It sounds similar to any number of flood myths from various eras and cultures. The typical story is that one or more deities get angry and proceed to destroy the majority of humanity. Some of the myths may reflect fragmented memories of real-life floods, such as the one which is thought to have damaged the city of Shuruppak at the end of the Jemdet Nasr period. Others may reflect memories of real-life tsunamis, like the one caused by the Minoan eruption. Basically, people survive a natural disaster and mythmakers try to explain why it happened. Dimadick ( talk) 08:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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Zeus is the god of lightning 203.206.28.227 ( talk) 06:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
In this edit, @ Paul August: removed the entire "in modern culture" section. Although I agree that that section had too much detail and too many trivial mentions, I do not agree that the section should be removed. In fact, I'd argue that the section should be renamed "In art and culture", and cover not just modern novels and films, but also depictions of Zeus in art through the ages, including works by Titian, Rubens, Ingres, Renoir, Thorvaldsen, etc. -- Macrakis ( talk) 22:36, 17 March 2023 (UTC)