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The current article relies almost exclusively on primary or weak sources, such as a press release, standard bios from a database/directory on Yahoo!/Reuters, and includes trivial information about Zeltiq winning an award and attending a conference. It also contains errors, such as saying ZELTIQ has other products and that it is for general "weight loss".
As previously discussed with user:Doc James and User:Crisco 1492, I don't believe this article should actually exist. My own advice at WP:ORGVANITY says the article "should be named after whichever is most notable (the person, company or product)" and in this case the product (CoolSculpting) is much more notable than the company. However, if this page is going to exist, I'd like to correct and improve it.
I've started a draft for consideration at User:CorporateM/Zeltiq. I'm still actively working on the draft, but wanted to get a couple quick eyeballs on it before I dive too deep into it, in case it's decided not to have this article. The "final" probably won't look too different; I just need to vet all the sources and improve them where possible, do copyediting, etc. CorporateM ( Talk) 16:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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Requesting consideration of the proposed draft located at User:CorporateM/Zeltiq. This would dramatically reduce the article's reliance on primary sources, contribute to the general expansion of the page, and trim a couple of trivial things regarding an award and conference.
As with the Invisalign page, if someone does spot this in the Request Edit queue right away, please don't implement the draft right away without giving DocJames or any other watchlisters a week to chime in. Thanks in advance for taking a look!
PS - I know this page will raise a few fringe-alarms given the industry they are in, but I think if you review the sources, you'll find that current review articles in peer-reviewed journals with an impact score do actually say it is safe and effective (not quack medicine, alternative, or any of that nonsense). CorporateM ( Talk) 04:15, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
By 2010, the company had raised $50 million in financing over three rounds of funding.[5][19] An additional $25 million in funding was raised in June 2010.[20]Are you sure this is right? Source 5 seems to imply the $25 million from June is part of the $50 million. Will remove the second sentence until confident that it is accurate.
CoolScupting became popularThis seems overly vague. Will change to "increased in popularity" when I move it over.
So the source -- "PartnerCare enters strategic alliance with Synergy". Long Island Business News. October 16, 1998. - is about a Long Island holding company called Juniper Group Inc. (CEO Vlado P. Hreljanovic) that "operates in the health care management area through two subsidiaries of Juniper Medical Systems Inc., which offers medical revenue enhancement to hospitals and cost containment to managed care health groups and insurance companies" . This is a collection agency company.
Zeltiq was formerly called Juniper Medical, Inc. (so no "Systems" in the name) It has always been in California, and has never had anything to do with collections that I have seen. for petes sake. Jytdog ( talk) 22:14, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
There was a story in the New York Times and several other publications about how model Linda Evangelista complained that Zeltiq’s CoolSculpting left her "disfigured." This is always a problem with cosmetic surgery procedures, but it should be kept in perspective. If the company is publicly traded, they are legally required to include "material risks" of lawsuits in a section of their annual report. I couldn't find any. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1415336/000162828016012690/zltq-12312015x10k.htm#s066EBB05D4E227C891A6CE91E249F618 I could also find references to class action lawsuit for securities fraud, and for personal injury. I'll leave it to somebody else to follow these up. -- Nbauman ( talk) 18:54, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
https://mylawadvocate.com/coolsculpting-lawsuit/
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The current article relies almost exclusively on primary or weak sources, such as a press release, standard bios from a database/directory on Yahoo!/Reuters, and includes trivial information about Zeltiq winning an award and attending a conference. It also contains errors, such as saying ZELTIQ has other products and that it is for general "weight loss".
As previously discussed with user:Doc James and User:Crisco 1492, I don't believe this article should actually exist. My own advice at WP:ORGVANITY says the article "should be named after whichever is most notable (the person, company or product)" and in this case the product (CoolSculpting) is much more notable than the company. However, if this page is going to exist, I'd like to correct and improve it.
I've started a draft for consideration at User:CorporateM/Zeltiq. I'm still actively working on the draft, but wanted to get a couple quick eyeballs on it before I dive too deep into it, in case it's decided not to have this article. The "final" probably won't look too different; I just need to vet all the sources and improve them where possible, do copyediting, etc. CorporateM ( Talk) 16:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Requesting consideration of the proposed draft located at User:CorporateM/Zeltiq. This would dramatically reduce the article's reliance on primary sources, contribute to the general expansion of the page, and trim a couple of trivial things regarding an award and conference.
As with the Invisalign page, if someone does spot this in the Request Edit queue right away, please don't implement the draft right away without giving DocJames or any other watchlisters a week to chime in. Thanks in advance for taking a look!
PS - I know this page will raise a few fringe-alarms given the industry they are in, but I think if you review the sources, you'll find that current review articles in peer-reviewed journals with an impact score do actually say it is safe and effective (not quack medicine, alternative, or any of that nonsense). CorporateM ( Talk) 04:15, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
By 2010, the company had raised $50 million in financing over three rounds of funding.[5][19] An additional $25 million in funding was raised in June 2010.[20]Are you sure this is right? Source 5 seems to imply the $25 million from June is part of the $50 million. Will remove the second sentence until confident that it is accurate.
CoolScupting became popularThis seems overly vague. Will change to "increased in popularity" when I move it over.
So the source -- "PartnerCare enters strategic alliance with Synergy". Long Island Business News. October 16, 1998. - is about a Long Island holding company called Juniper Group Inc. (CEO Vlado P. Hreljanovic) that "operates in the health care management area through two subsidiaries of Juniper Medical Systems Inc., which offers medical revenue enhancement to hospitals and cost containment to managed care health groups and insurance companies" . This is a collection agency company.
Zeltiq was formerly called Juniper Medical, Inc. (so no "Systems" in the name) It has always been in California, and has never had anything to do with collections that I have seen. for petes sake. Jytdog ( talk) 22:14, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
There was a story in the New York Times and several other publications about how model Linda Evangelista complained that Zeltiq’s CoolSculpting left her "disfigured." This is always a problem with cosmetic surgery procedures, but it should be kept in perspective. If the company is publicly traded, they are legally required to include "material risks" of lawsuits in a section of their annual report. I couldn't find any. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1415336/000162828016012690/zltq-12312015x10k.htm#s066EBB05D4E227C891A6CE91E249F618 I could also find references to class action lawsuit for securities fraud, and for personal injury. I'll leave it to somebody else to follow these up. -- Nbauman ( talk) 18:54, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
https://mylawadvocate.com/coolsculpting-lawsuit/
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