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...apparently being marketed as "British beef". If anything, I'm disgusted with the patriotism more than the fact that we could be eating Zebu. Could be added to the article...-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 13:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion in this articles as to whether or not to count the zebu as part of Bos taurus (domestic cattle) or Bos primigenius (aurochs). There's some debate among scientists, but shouldn't this be mentioned, and one or the other decided, to keep the page from contradicting itself? The page for Bos has the zebu listed as taurus. -- Petemella 12:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Bos Taurus Indicus means Indian Cattle whereas Zebu means Bos Primigenius Indicus. This zebu breed is a sub type of Indian Cattel. So it's my kind request to you to separate both the pages. Goresm ( talk) 11:51, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
This is given as Linneus, without qualification. However, he surely was the one who called it Bos indicus. An authority for the primigenius element is needed (him too, I suppose...). I don't know how the convention goes, but should he not be in brackets or something, or repeated, or both? -- Richard New Forest 14:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't get it either. ITIS (Integrated Taxonomic Integration System) seems to indicate that there is no Bos indicus, and that Zebu cattle are Bos taurus. Again, a search on GBIF (Global Biodiversity Information Facilities)for Bos primigenius indicus returns no results, while Bos indicus is apparently a synonym for Bos taurus. I can't find any mention of primigenius anywhere other than wikipedia. None of the other articles I've seen cite anything, as far as I can see. MUCH CONFUSION! 118.208.73.195 ( talk) 10:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Zebu's meat is delicious.For me, the best meat is exactly the zebu's hump. Brazil is selling millions of tons of zebu's meat to dozens of countries of the world, without no problems. Agre22 ( talk) 02:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)agre22
that picture of the Zebu makes it look like it has a frill around its neck, especially when viewed at a distance - it's very confusing. It's not until you consider the other pictures that you realise that it hasn't actually got a frill. I would recommend changing this picture. Owen214 ( talk) 12:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Had redundant references to the Veggietales song... I snipped out the less well-written one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.97.146.234 ( talk) 13:31, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
As already discussed on the aurochs talk page, there seems to be confusion regarding domestic bovine taxonomy. I would like to see if there is any evidence for taurine and zebuine cattle being one species that excludes the aurochs, because they have been domesticated separately and descend from different subspecies of the aurochs. Currently the zebu is listed here as Bos taurus indicus, which is perfectly fine as long as the aurochs is listed as Bos taurus primigenius. But one domesticated species Bos taurus different from Bos primigenius, does not exist. Therefore, the current taxonomy (aurochs: Bos primigenius, taurine cattle: Bos taurus taurus, zebuine cattle: Bos taurus indicus) is not supported by scientific literature. I would therefore kindly ask if there is any evidence for listing zebuine and taurine cattle, which have different ancestors, as one species that does not include the aurochs. DFoidl ( talk) 11:07, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Since you don't respond I assume that you have no problem with my intention to change the scientific name of the zebu back to Bos indicus on this article and the aurochs article. I am going to do that tomorrow unless you engage in discussion to find consensus and I hope you don't start another edit war. DFoidl ( talk) 16:29, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Please see the RFC at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mammals#RFC: Taxonomy of Cattle and respond there if you have an opinion. Thanks! Kaldari ( talk) 19:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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...apparently being marketed as "British beef". If anything, I'm disgusted with the patriotism more than the fact that we could be eating Zebu. Could be added to the article...-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 13:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion in this articles as to whether or not to count the zebu as part of Bos taurus (domestic cattle) or Bos primigenius (aurochs). There's some debate among scientists, but shouldn't this be mentioned, and one or the other decided, to keep the page from contradicting itself? The page for Bos has the zebu listed as taurus. -- Petemella 12:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Bos Taurus Indicus means Indian Cattle whereas Zebu means Bos Primigenius Indicus. This zebu breed is a sub type of Indian Cattel. So it's my kind request to you to separate both the pages. Goresm ( talk) 11:51, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
This is given as Linneus, without qualification. However, he surely was the one who called it Bos indicus. An authority for the primigenius element is needed (him too, I suppose...). I don't know how the convention goes, but should he not be in brackets or something, or repeated, or both? -- Richard New Forest 14:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't get it either. ITIS (Integrated Taxonomic Integration System) seems to indicate that there is no Bos indicus, and that Zebu cattle are Bos taurus. Again, a search on GBIF (Global Biodiversity Information Facilities)for Bos primigenius indicus returns no results, while Bos indicus is apparently a synonym for Bos taurus. I can't find any mention of primigenius anywhere other than wikipedia. None of the other articles I've seen cite anything, as far as I can see. MUCH CONFUSION! 118.208.73.195 ( talk) 10:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Zebu's meat is delicious.For me, the best meat is exactly the zebu's hump. Brazil is selling millions of tons of zebu's meat to dozens of countries of the world, without no problems. Agre22 ( talk) 02:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)agre22
that picture of the Zebu makes it look like it has a frill around its neck, especially when viewed at a distance - it's very confusing. It's not until you consider the other pictures that you realise that it hasn't actually got a frill. I would recommend changing this picture. Owen214 ( talk) 12:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Had redundant references to the Veggietales song... I snipped out the less well-written one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.97.146.234 ( talk) 13:31, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
As already discussed on the aurochs talk page, there seems to be confusion regarding domestic bovine taxonomy. I would like to see if there is any evidence for taurine and zebuine cattle being one species that excludes the aurochs, because they have been domesticated separately and descend from different subspecies of the aurochs. Currently the zebu is listed here as Bos taurus indicus, which is perfectly fine as long as the aurochs is listed as Bos taurus primigenius. But one domesticated species Bos taurus different from Bos primigenius, does not exist. Therefore, the current taxonomy (aurochs: Bos primigenius, taurine cattle: Bos taurus taurus, zebuine cattle: Bos taurus indicus) is not supported by scientific literature. I would therefore kindly ask if there is any evidence for listing zebuine and taurine cattle, which have different ancestors, as one species that does not include the aurochs. DFoidl ( talk) 11:07, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Since you don't respond I assume that you have no problem with my intention to change the scientific name of the zebu back to Bos indicus on this article and the aurochs article. I am going to do that tomorrow unless you engage in discussion to find consensus and I hope you don't start another edit war. DFoidl ( talk) 16:29, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Please see the RFC at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mammals#RFC: Taxonomy of Cattle and respond there if you have an opinion. Thanks! Kaldari ( talk) 19:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)