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I found a PDF copy of the WJ essay [1] with the reference to Bashkirtev.
V.S. Bashkirtsev and G.P. Mashnich, 2003. “Will We Face Global Warming in the Nearest Future?,” Geomagnetism i Aeronomia, Vol. 43, pp. 124-127.
Oddly, the article itself has a different transliteration of the 2nd author as Mishnich vs. Mashnich in the actual footnote. Maybe just carelessness?
The journal Geomagnetizm i Aeronomia has an online edition, on Springerlink, but they only go back to 2006 online and my library doesn't subscribe. The abstract [2] sums it up as described in the referring essay: solar variation is paramount, and that they can predict a coming major decline in solar output by 2025. I wonder if the Russian language wikipedia has anything on these authors? I've begun learning the Cyrillic alphabet, but I won't understand any directions and I haven't learned to type it yet! Birdbrainscan 00:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
MN removed some useful stuff with an incivil edit comment [3] but fails to understand the meaning of references. "(Jaworowski, 2007; Jaworowski, 1999; Jaworowski, 1997)" are the papers; they are published; the deltoid link is not the source for their publication William M. Connolley ( talk) 10:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
What is this nonsense that it should be a BLP violation to state that Jaworowski often publishes in the LaRouche publication? Its easily verifiable. Go to the 21st century website - search for articles by author. Its even a problem here on WP, where we can't add him to the list of sceptics, because none of the articles he's written can be referenced (because they are LaRouche publications - per ArbCom).
To me this quite frankly sounds like a misguided attempt to whitewash. Even Monbiot and Alexander Cockburn have commented on this [4].... -- Kim D. Petersen ( talk) 16:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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help)Kim, by my quick research, Jaworowski has published dozens of papers over the last 50 years. Why are these particular ones notable, other than the fact that you can use them to link Jaworowski to LaRouche? There is no RS that makes this link. If you want to mention Jaworowski's body of work, you are welcome to propose a list of papers which are significant. I suspect that his work in 21st Century is probably not notable in itself to be included in a short list, but even if it is, the identity of the publisher is irrelevant. And when that publisher is controversial, making that association without rock solid sources (who explicitly establish the relevance of the association between Jawarowski and LaRouche and his conspiracy theories) is inappropriate per BLP. ATren ( talk) 17:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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Yes kim it is,
Visit publisher for more information the publisher is the insurance company who you are citing, self published by them to assess the impact of AGW on their own company
mark nutley (
talk) 18:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
A book published by a corporation? Not even close - WP:IDONTLIKEIT William M. Connolley ( talk) 21:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
For those who do not know, this discussion is linked to, from RS/N, at this section. Weakopedia ( talk) 08:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Back again it seems. I still don't know why ATren took this stuff out William M. Connolley ( talk) 22:37, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
References by 1-4 scientists does not mean that the whole scientific community or even a significant amount rejected his findings/papers, which is what is implied. If you want to say some or a few then that is different. By saying the "scientific community" with no qualifiers implies that everyone in the science community feels/believes that way, and no proof is offered that *EVERYONE* believes that. Thus a citation is needed to say the scientific community rejects his ideas. Also one of the quotes that can't be sourced now, says "some of his statements are wrong". So that even says that not all his views are rejected. So again more sources are needed to support that statement that implies everyone believe he is wrong about everything. 24.217.131.76 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC).
If the only reference to ZJ being a physicist is the 21st Century Science and Technology, then please bear in mind that the "journal", printed by LaRouche isn't a WP:RS. Note in fact that the "journal" is noted for its lack of reliability. The necrolog states that he was a radiology physician - so as far as i can see that is what we have to run with. -- Kim D. Petersen ( talk) 20:05, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
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Refs 1-1 are all broken. Are there any RS's for him? William M. Connolley ( talk) 16:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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I found a PDF copy of the WJ essay [1] with the reference to Bashkirtev.
V.S. Bashkirtsev and G.P. Mashnich, 2003. “Will We Face Global Warming in the Nearest Future?,” Geomagnetism i Aeronomia, Vol. 43, pp. 124-127.
Oddly, the article itself has a different transliteration of the 2nd author as Mishnich vs. Mashnich in the actual footnote. Maybe just carelessness?
The journal Geomagnetizm i Aeronomia has an online edition, on Springerlink, but they only go back to 2006 online and my library doesn't subscribe. The abstract [2] sums it up as described in the referring essay: solar variation is paramount, and that they can predict a coming major decline in solar output by 2025. I wonder if the Russian language wikipedia has anything on these authors? I've begun learning the Cyrillic alphabet, but I won't understand any directions and I haven't learned to type it yet! Birdbrainscan 00:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
MN removed some useful stuff with an incivil edit comment [3] but fails to understand the meaning of references. "(Jaworowski, 2007; Jaworowski, 1999; Jaworowski, 1997)" are the papers; they are published; the deltoid link is not the source for their publication William M. Connolley ( talk) 10:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
What is this nonsense that it should be a BLP violation to state that Jaworowski often publishes in the LaRouche publication? Its easily verifiable. Go to the 21st century website - search for articles by author. Its even a problem here on WP, where we can't add him to the list of sceptics, because none of the articles he's written can be referenced (because they are LaRouche publications - per ArbCom).
To me this quite frankly sounds like a misguided attempt to whitewash. Even Monbiot and Alexander Cockburn have commented on this [4].... -- Kim D. Petersen ( talk) 16:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
{{
citation}}
: External link in |chapterurl=
(
help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl=
ignored (|chapter-url=
suggested) (
help)Kim, by my quick research, Jaworowski has published dozens of papers over the last 50 years. Why are these particular ones notable, other than the fact that you can use them to link Jaworowski to LaRouche? There is no RS that makes this link. If you want to mention Jaworowski's body of work, you are welcome to propose a list of papers which are significant. I suspect that his work in 21st Century is probably not notable in itself to be included in a short list, but even if it is, the identity of the publisher is irrelevant. And when that publisher is controversial, making that association without rock solid sources (who explicitly establish the relevance of the association between Jawarowski and LaRouche and his conspiracy theories) is inappropriate per BLP. ATren ( talk) 17:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
(
edit conflict)
Yes kim it is,
Visit publisher for more information the publisher is the insurance company who you are citing, self published by them to assess the impact of AGW on their own company
mark nutley (
talk) 18:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
A book published by a corporation? Not even close - WP:IDONTLIKEIT William M. Connolley ( talk) 21:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
For those who do not know, this discussion is linked to, from RS/N, at this section. Weakopedia ( talk) 08:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Back again it seems. I still don't know why ATren took this stuff out William M. Connolley ( talk) 22:37, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
References by 1-4 scientists does not mean that the whole scientific community or even a significant amount rejected his findings/papers, which is what is implied. If you want to say some or a few then that is different. By saying the "scientific community" with no qualifiers implies that everyone in the science community feels/believes that way, and no proof is offered that *EVERYONE* believes that. Thus a citation is needed to say the scientific community rejects his ideas. Also one of the quotes that can't be sourced now, says "some of his statements are wrong". So that even says that not all his views are rejected. So again more sources are needed to support that statement that implies everyone believe he is wrong about everything. 24.217.131.76 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC).
If the only reference to ZJ being a physicist is the 21st Century Science and Technology, then please bear in mind that the "journal", printed by LaRouche isn't a WP:RS. Note in fact that the "journal" is noted for its lack of reliability. The necrolog states that he was a radiology physician - so as far as i can see that is what we have to run with. -- Kim D. Petersen ( talk) 20:05, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
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Refs 1-1 are all broken. Are there any RS's for him? William M. Connolley ( talk) 16:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)