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The source [1] (an article in Aftonkuriren) says that she received a 3× Platinum award for "Uncover".
Zara Larsson fick motta trippel platina skiva för sin sköna ballad – Uncover.
But in a photo from the same event [2], she is holding a 3× Platinum award for Introducing (EP), not for "Uncover". I think Aftonkuriren confused the song and the EP.
There's another source for the single becoming 1× Platinum [3] (it's already being used in the Wikipedia article). I suggest using Aftonkuriren and the photo as a source for Introducing. And changing the certification for "Uncover" to only 1× Platinum. What do you think? -- Moscow Connection ( talk) 19:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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I'm currently in an edit dispute with some other users over a statement about Larsson being a "man-hater". As I said on my talk page in response to another user a few days back, the term "man-hater" isn't very encyclopedic. The "man-hating" is described in four articles I found [4], [5], [6], [7] and by her on her personal website, where she says she hates the "patriarchal society" and "macho culture", and how men in groups "oppress and threaten". The inclusion of the "man-hater" statement may imply that Larsson is a misandrist. What I read doesn't indicate she is a misandrist (someone with an irrational dislike or fear of the male gender) to me, and the statement may viewed as defamatory. Linguist 111 talk 22:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
I think Larsson's point of view about men isn't that controversial. Her point of view is clear and should be mentioned in the article, this is not primary source like her tweets: http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/94802. Article says now ”Larsson has voiced several feminist comments and received multiple rape and death threats for them” and it would be good if those comments of her which led to threats, were mentioned. And I agree, ”man-hater” is not encyclopaedic. But it was her comments about men which led to threats. -- Cary ( talk) 13:51, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Zara larsson is nominated for the best international song in the NRJ Awards 2016 with This One's for You Sasha Leiva66 ( talk) 01:35, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
And she was nominated to the best dance song in the latin american music awards for Never Forget You Sasha Leiva66 ( talk) 01:40, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sasha Levia66! Wouldn't the nomination for "This One's for You" go to David Guetta? Zara is only featured on the song, right? Jith12 ( talk) 01:45, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
@ Sasha Leiva66: I noticed that you changed the status of Zara Larsson's 2016 MTV EMA nomination for Best Swedish Act from "nominated" to "won". According to the Swedish version of the 2016 MTV EMA's website, the award was won by the The Fooo Conspiracy, not Zara Larsson. If you have a source that says otherwise please show me by leaving a message on my talk page. I am going to change the status of the award back to "nominated" until we can find a reliable source that says otherwise. Jith12 ( talk) 22:32, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi Well i don't know because when i watched the ceremony she won the two categories in the ceremony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasha Leiva66 ( talk • contribs) 22:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Since the section Personal Life has been changed to Sexist views towards men and clearly shows undue weight toward NOTNEWS trivia; I am bringing the discussion of removal (or clean-up to better represent biographical prose) of the current content regarding sexist views and uncyclopedic trivia ("Larsson is an active Twitter user") here. Furthermore, "Fuse" as a single source does not warrant the inclusion of such a strong statement by a subject's opinion that normally requires several reliable sources quoted over an extended period of time to be considered "notable" contrary to trivia. The line: "On separate occasions she went on a 'Men are swines' tirade after being insulted online" is not representative of the actual article cited; (not to mention it does not support the claim: "on separate occasions") and not utilized to the benefit of the subject for an encyclopedia. This section requires removal or extensive clean-up. Please do not further edit the section until a consensus via discussion is agreed upon here. @ Echoedmyron: Thank you. Maineartists ( talk) 01:01, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
fine then. i removed it. still the title personal life isn't justified since there's nothing about her personal life. also, the fact that she a self proclaimed misandrist needs to be highlighted. NFLjunkie22 ( talk) 01:17, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
User:Jith12/Userboxes/Zara Larsson here's the little box i found on your profile Jith12. you should add. this user lies advance his/her views on wiki. NFLjunkie22 ( talk) 01:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
If there is not enough material for "Personal life", maybe section should be renamed to "Personal views"? Her comments about men are not "NOTNEWS trivia" and Fuse is not a single source. There are several reliable sources, also listed on this talk page, about several occasions Larsson has spoken her mind about not liking men. -- Cary ( talk) 15:03, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
I think we need another consensus. There seems to be an edit war going on about whether there should be a link to misandry on the words "man-hater". Johnuniq brought up a good point in his edit summary saying that on top of a possible misunderstanding that if you add a link to a quote it is a violation of WP:MOS#Linking. What do you all think? Jith12 ( talk) 16:33, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Edit warring is not permitted and consensus for edits is required. However, the issues concerning the 11:00, 4 December 2016 edit may as well be explored. That edit changed
to
which links to misandry where the lead states:
Reasons for not linking to misandry include:
As much as possible, avoid linking from within quotes, which may clutter the quotation, violate the principle of leaving quotations unchanged, and mislead or confuse the reader.
Johnuniq ( talk) 01:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I think we have reached a consensus and misandry link can be removed, altough I'd like to point out that at the time Larsson described herself as a "man-hater", she wasn't reacting to sexual assaults because she gave the statement prior to the attacks. -- Cary ( talk) 12:47, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
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I'm sorry but I'm afraid I will be quick-failing this article for several reasons. Mainly because it does meet the requirements per
criteria 3a, which means the article must be broad in its coverage in all aspects. The article really only discusses the success of her singles and doesn't mention anything regarding her singing/musical style, which is practically a standard on singer articles. Several sections end without citations, with ""My Heart Will Go On", originally sung by Celine Dion, was later released as Larsson's debut single.", "Larsson performed four new tracks from her album in an event in Sweden recently, called "Wanna", "Funeral", "Mississippi" and "Permission"."The song sold platinum in Sweden after two weeks."and Larsson was featured in the official song of UEFA Euro 2016, David Guetta's "This One's for You". "Not to mention the article is suspected of
90% plagarism.
Some of the citations also don't backup what's being said, such as Ref #25 which doesn't backup all of the chart positions mentioned, and Ref #26/27 doesn't call MNEK a Grammy-nominated artist (which is original research). Also, several paragraphs within the sections are just sentences, and the bulk of the article's length is a list of awards, with her pending nominations at the BRIT Awards being completely unreferenced. I'm additionally not sure how reliable websites like Posh24 are, and there is not a consistent date format for the citations. Even Ref #35 lists 31 January 2017 as the publication date, which is impossible considering today is 20 January. I'd highly recommend sending this to WP:PR before resubmitting this for GA review. You're on the right track but the article is a bit too far from meeting the current criteria at this time. Regards, Carbrera ( talk) 02:15, 20 January 2017 (UTC).
I am inviting all editors involved in this discussion to my sandbox here: [9]. Please allow it to serve as a template for a newly inserted section to replace the current Personal views within the article. As you will see, I have gathered sources and filled out the undue weight with additional information that does not place the argumentative and questionable statements at the top of the section. Nothing has been removed, but wording has been changed to better reflect the actual sources and to provide a NPOV. Personal opinion on my part has been left out. Please feel free to leave comment or opinion regarding the newly created section here, or feel free to add appropriate edits to my Sandbox. This is in effort to create a Personal life section that can be added to in the future; and displace the undue weight within the article on one specific "view" by the subject. Thanks! Maineartists ( talk) 16:50, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
@ Maineartists: Great idea! Thanks for taking initiative! Jith12 ( talk) 17:11, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
@ Maineartists: I feel that it would be more appropriate to say "Larsson is a self-proclaimed fan of Beyonce" rather than "Larsson is a self-proclaimed member of the 'Bey Hive'". I think that it will sound more encyclopedic that way. What do you think? Jith12 ( talk) 18:49, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Maineartists Thank you, you've done a great job. However, I have one suggestion for improvement. After becoming aware of rape at festival, Larsson condemned it but also held all men responsible for the act and Fuse isn't the only source. According to Aftonbladet Larsson commented, for example, that girls feel insecure and can't even go to one festival because of men, and that she hates guys (x4). She faced a lot of criticism for her statement, and she added: "People have to understand that to generalize a privileged and socially powerful group is harmless". So I'd replace "Larsson went on social media via Twitter to condemn the act and (in the words of reporter Emilee Linder) "blaming all men for the attacks" by "Larsson went on social media via Twitter to condemn the act and held all men responsible as a group for the attacks". And maybe that she faced criticism because of the generalization (also according to SVT [10].-- Cary ( talk) 00:06, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
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Zara Larsson has been listed as a dancer. I would disagree, but I haven't watched her most recent live shows so I may be wrong. 37KZ ( talk) 16:16, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
A few hours ago, there was a concert on the gaming platform ROBLOX, dedicated to Larsson. The event was an absolute disaster, from the videos I am seeing. Larsson cussed in front of many children (many streamers that appealed to younger audiences had that shown to them, to rub salt into it), there were multiple flashing lights throughout which hurt many people's eyes, and it was very boring with nothing to do. Plus, there were many glitches hat caused people to become naked. I think this should be included in the "controversy" section. Since my editing is rubbish, however, I can't do it. Should we include this? Or should we wait for reliable sources, and more time to pas to se what happened, in all? Pain is fantastic ( talk) 01:06, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
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The source [1] (an article in Aftonkuriren) says that she received a 3× Platinum award for "Uncover".
Zara Larsson fick motta trippel platina skiva för sin sköna ballad – Uncover.
But in a photo from the same event [2], she is holding a 3× Platinum award for Introducing (EP), not for "Uncover". I think Aftonkuriren confused the song and the EP.
There's another source for the single becoming 1× Platinum [3] (it's already being used in the Wikipedia article). I suggest using Aftonkuriren and the photo as a source for Introducing. And changing the certification for "Uncover" to only 1× Platinum. What do you think? -- Moscow Connection ( talk) 19:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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I'm currently in an edit dispute with some other users over a statement about Larsson being a "man-hater". As I said on my talk page in response to another user a few days back, the term "man-hater" isn't very encyclopedic. The "man-hating" is described in four articles I found [4], [5], [6], [7] and by her on her personal website, where she says she hates the "patriarchal society" and "macho culture", and how men in groups "oppress and threaten". The inclusion of the "man-hater" statement may imply that Larsson is a misandrist. What I read doesn't indicate she is a misandrist (someone with an irrational dislike or fear of the male gender) to me, and the statement may viewed as defamatory. Linguist 111 talk 22:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
I think Larsson's point of view about men isn't that controversial. Her point of view is clear and should be mentioned in the article, this is not primary source like her tweets: http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/94802. Article says now ”Larsson has voiced several feminist comments and received multiple rape and death threats for them” and it would be good if those comments of her which led to threats, were mentioned. And I agree, ”man-hater” is not encyclopaedic. But it was her comments about men which led to threats. -- Cary ( talk) 13:51, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Zara larsson is nominated for the best international song in the NRJ Awards 2016 with This One's for You Sasha Leiva66 ( talk) 01:35, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
And she was nominated to the best dance song in the latin american music awards for Never Forget You Sasha Leiva66 ( talk) 01:40, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sasha Levia66! Wouldn't the nomination for "This One's for You" go to David Guetta? Zara is only featured on the song, right? Jith12 ( talk) 01:45, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
@ Sasha Leiva66: I noticed that you changed the status of Zara Larsson's 2016 MTV EMA nomination for Best Swedish Act from "nominated" to "won". According to the Swedish version of the 2016 MTV EMA's website, the award was won by the The Fooo Conspiracy, not Zara Larsson. If you have a source that says otherwise please show me by leaving a message on my talk page. I am going to change the status of the award back to "nominated" until we can find a reliable source that says otherwise. Jith12 ( talk) 22:32, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi Well i don't know because when i watched the ceremony she won the two categories in the ceremony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasha Leiva66 ( talk • contribs) 22:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Since the section Personal Life has been changed to Sexist views towards men and clearly shows undue weight toward NOTNEWS trivia; I am bringing the discussion of removal (or clean-up to better represent biographical prose) of the current content regarding sexist views and uncyclopedic trivia ("Larsson is an active Twitter user") here. Furthermore, "Fuse" as a single source does not warrant the inclusion of such a strong statement by a subject's opinion that normally requires several reliable sources quoted over an extended period of time to be considered "notable" contrary to trivia. The line: "On separate occasions she went on a 'Men are swines' tirade after being insulted online" is not representative of the actual article cited; (not to mention it does not support the claim: "on separate occasions") and not utilized to the benefit of the subject for an encyclopedia. This section requires removal or extensive clean-up. Please do not further edit the section until a consensus via discussion is agreed upon here. @ Echoedmyron: Thank you. Maineartists ( talk) 01:01, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
fine then. i removed it. still the title personal life isn't justified since there's nothing about her personal life. also, the fact that she a self proclaimed misandrist needs to be highlighted. NFLjunkie22 ( talk) 01:17, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
User:Jith12/Userboxes/Zara Larsson here's the little box i found on your profile Jith12. you should add. this user lies advance his/her views on wiki. NFLjunkie22 ( talk) 01:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
If there is not enough material for "Personal life", maybe section should be renamed to "Personal views"? Her comments about men are not "NOTNEWS trivia" and Fuse is not a single source. There are several reliable sources, also listed on this talk page, about several occasions Larsson has spoken her mind about not liking men. -- Cary ( talk) 15:03, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
I think we need another consensus. There seems to be an edit war going on about whether there should be a link to misandry on the words "man-hater". Johnuniq brought up a good point in his edit summary saying that on top of a possible misunderstanding that if you add a link to a quote it is a violation of WP:MOS#Linking. What do you all think? Jith12 ( talk) 16:33, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Edit warring is not permitted and consensus for edits is required. However, the issues concerning the 11:00, 4 December 2016 edit may as well be explored. That edit changed
to
which links to misandry where the lead states:
Reasons for not linking to misandry include:
As much as possible, avoid linking from within quotes, which may clutter the quotation, violate the principle of leaving quotations unchanged, and mislead or confuse the reader.
Johnuniq ( talk) 01:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I think we have reached a consensus and misandry link can be removed, altough I'd like to point out that at the time Larsson described herself as a "man-hater", she wasn't reacting to sexual assaults because she gave the statement prior to the attacks. -- Cary ( talk) 12:47, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
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I'm sorry but I'm afraid I will be quick-failing this article for several reasons. Mainly because it does meet the requirements per
criteria 3a, which means the article must be broad in its coverage in all aspects. The article really only discusses the success of her singles and doesn't mention anything regarding her singing/musical style, which is practically a standard on singer articles. Several sections end without citations, with ""My Heart Will Go On", originally sung by Celine Dion, was later released as Larsson's debut single.", "Larsson performed four new tracks from her album in an event in Sweden recently, called "Wanna", "Funeral", "Mississippi" and "Permission"."The song sold platinum in Sweden after two weeks."and Larsson was featured in the official song of UEFA Euro 2016, David Guetta's "This One's for You". "Not to mention the article is suspected of
90% plagarism.
Some of the citations also don't backup what's being said, such as Ref #25 which doesn't backup all of the chart positions mentioned, and Ref #26/27 doesn't call MNEK a Grammy-nominated artist (which is original research). Also, several paragraphs within the sections are just sentences, and the bulk of the article's length is a list of awards, with her pending nominations at the BRIT Awards being completely unreferenced. I'm additionally not sure how reliable websites like Posh24 are, and there is not a consistent date format for the citations. Even Ref #35 lists 31 January 2017 as the publication date, which is impossible considering today is 20 January. I'd highly recommend sending this to WP:PR before resubmitting this for GA review. You're on the right track but the article is a bit too far from meeting the current criteria at this time. Regards, Carbrera ( talk) 02:15, 20 January 2017 (UTC).
I am inviting all editors involved in this discussion to my sandbox here: [9]. Please allow it to serve as a template for a newly inserted section to replace the current Personal views within the article. As you will see, I have gathered sources and filled out the undue weight with additional information that does not place the argumentative and questionable statements at the top of the section. Nothing has been removed, but wording has been changed to better reflect the actual sources and to provide a NPOV. Personal opinion on my part has been left out. Please feel free to leave comment or opinion regarding the newly created section here, or feel free to add appropriate edits to my Sandbox. This is in effort to create a Personal life section that can be added to in the future; and displace the undue weight within the article on one specific "view" by the subject. Thanks! Maineartists ( talk) 16:50, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
@ Maineartists: Great idea! Thanks for taking initiative! Jith12 ( talk) 17:11, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
@ Maineartists: I feel that it would be more appropriate to say "Larsson is a self-proclaimed fan of Beyonce" rather than "Larsson is a self-proclaimed member of the 'Bey Hive'". I think that it will sound more encyclopedic that way. What do you think? Jith12 ( talk) 18:49, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Maineartists Thank you, you've done a great job. However, I have one suggestion for improvement. After becoming aware of rape at festival, Larsson condemned it but also held all men responsible for the act and Fuse isn't the only source. According to Aftonbladet Larsson commented, for example, that girls feel insecure and can't even go to one festival because of men, and that she hates guys (x4). She faced a lot of criticism for her statement, and she added: "People have to understand that to generalize a privileged and socially powerful group is harmless". So I'd replace "Larsson went on social media via Twitter to condemn the act and (in the words of reporter Emilee Linder) "blaming all men for the attacks" by "Larsson went on social media via Twitter to condemn the act and held all men responsible as a group for the attacks". And maybe that she faced criticism because of the generalization (also according to SVT [10].-- Cary ( talk) 00:06, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
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Zara Larsson has been listed as a dancer. I would disagree, but I haven't watched her most recent live shows so I may be wrong. 37KZ ( talk) 16:16, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
A few hours ago, there was a concert on the gaming platform ROBLOX, dedicated to Larsson. The event was an absolute disaster, from the videos I am seeing. Larsson cussed in front of many children (many streamers that appealed to younger audiences had that shown to them, to rub salt into it), there were multiple flashing lights throughout which hurt many people's eyes, and it was very boring with nothing to do. Plus, there were many glitches hat caused people to become naked. I think this should be included in the "controversy" section. Since my editing is rubbish, however, I can't do it. Should we include this? Or should we wait for reliable sources, and more time to pas to se what happened, in all? Pain is fantastic ( talk) 01:06, 22 May 2021 (UTC)