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The article talks about a massacre and yet the title says it is a revolution. I'm requesting a new title [Zanzibar massacre]. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 14:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I second that [Zanzibar massacre]; or even ethnic cleansing. Perhaps a pogrom? Has anyone any information on any of the murderers being brought to justice? I've seen the film and it is brutal.
The article says about the successful evacuation of British Nationals (whites) only but does not mention any thing about Indians and others who were British Nationals and holding British Passports who were left to fend themselves.This was a real case of apartheid and colour discrimination.Even today these Indians and others who were British Nationals by registration under British Nationality Act 1948 and were holding valid British Passports are left high and dry by the British Government that these British Citizens have forfeited their British Nationality under Zanzibar independence Act 1963 without giving these colour British Citizen the option whether they wanted to opt for Zanzibar Citizenship or retain their british Nationalty.Even after 45 years many of these people are just living a miserable life.It is time the British government gave a though to this and correct the mistake and reinstate the British Nationaliy of these people.Even after 45 years it is not too late. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.160.107 ( talk) 11:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Zanzibar64 10:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC) The Revolution occured during the night of January 12th 1964. It was a violent one. over the following weeks and months, many thousand Zanzibari Arabs and others were killed. There are various reference books that can be supplied to support this.
On first glance, this looks very good. I expect a pass. A few things:
::Good catch, there's nothing that states that they directly influenced Zanzibar. I have changed this to read "sought to gain influence" -
Dumelow (
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(arbitrary break)Thanks to some pdfs of the articles that User:Nishkid64 sent me I have expanded the info on the revolution and moved the "following the revolution..." bit to the aftermath. Hopefully the article is a bit more complete now - Dumelow ( talk) 21:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Passing. Congratualations! ~the editorofthewiki ( talk/ contribs/ editor review)~ 18:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
when I google "zanzibar forced marriages" I get 64K hits, presumably related to the revolutionaries forcibly marrying women of Arab and Shirazi descent. The current article makes no mention of this practice in the early post-revolutionary period. Can somebody more knowledgeable discuss this, especially if this was a big deal then, or else at least explain why it WASN'T a big deal? 76.24.104.52 ( talk) 23:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
A few questions, comments etc for the subject expert(s)... EyeSerene talk 10:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
An eyewitness account of revolution is that Abdul Rehman Babu,a communist and a member of ZNP fall out from ZNP and escaped to main land Tanganyika.He organised the revolution.Most of the revolutioneries were outsiders from main land and not Zanzibaris except AR Babu who was a Gazija,that is the cross breed of an Arab and African.The so called revolutionaries were having support of Nyerere and most of these revolutioneries were trained near Velezo in the jungle.Some of the revolutioneris were policemen in Zanzibar Police.Tanganyika was involved in the Mapinduzi. There were about two hundred revolutionaries in the beginning.The Police Officer (name forgotten)in charge of Zanzibar Mobile Force Camp At Mtoni that fateful day had all the weapond of these armed police deposited in the armoury as part of conspiracy.The first ever casualty of the so called revolution was a sentry in the sentry box at the gate of Mtoni Zanzibar Mobile Force camp.There after the armed man entered the camp killing other four guards and broke opened the doors of armoury and looted the weapons.The unarmed police force was taken asleep at Mton and many lost their lives and some joined the revolutioneris. There after the killing and plundering took place and continued for several days.The so called Field Marshall John Okello was a outsider and a mason.All the time Abdul Rehman Babu was in Tanganyika.
The last police station to fall was Mulandege police station.The Sultan of Zanzibar escaped in his small ship and was granted assylum in Britain.The rest of the Government ministers were arrested and imprisoned.Some died in prison and others were released after many years in prison.
Arabs and asians were mercilessly murdered and their women raped and property either plundered or destroyed.Zanzibar was a ghost town.Okello use to announce all sort of whimsical orders from Sauti ya Unguja.
British naval force evacuted its white British nationals living the Asian British Citizens to their fate and at the mercy of Okello and his men who raped young girls and committed all kind of atrocities.Many people fled the country at the first opportunity.Some to main land and others to either middle east or India.
All this time Karume was in hiding but not in Zanzibar.Both Karume and Babu stayed out side the Island in Dar Es Sallam for fear of arrest in case the revolution failed.
Those people who left Zanzibar after revolution are not allowed to return re enter Zanzibar till date even though they were born in Zanzibar and had their property there.
The Brirish have disown the British Citizens of Asian origin and are not allowed to enter or stay in Britain.
It was belief at that time that the Brirish knew about the comming revolution but did not inform the Zanzibar Goverment to settle the score.It was a case of wounded pride and hurt ego. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.162.247 ( talk) 06:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Targeting of Arabs for mass killings, isn't that genocide? -- 41.151.141.63 ( talk) 23:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Operation Parthenon——name change——> Operation Boris——name change——> Operation Finery——name change——> Operation Shed——name change——> Plan Giralda——>CANCELED
We don't need 5 large yet almost identical articles of operations that all failed to be implemented, do we? 77.165.250.227 ( talk) 10:19, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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The article talks about a massacre and yet the title says it is a revolution. I'm requesting a new title [Zanzibar massacre]. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 14:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I second that [Zanzibar massacre]; or even ethnic cleansing. Perhaps a pogrom? Has anyone any information on any of the murderers being brought to justice? I've seen the film and it is brutal.
The article says about the successful evacuation of British Nationals (whites) only but does not mention any thing about Indians and others who were British Nationals and holding British Passports who were left to fend themselves.This was a real case of apartheid and colour discrimination.Even today these Indians and others who were British Nationals by registration under British Nationality Act 1948 and were holding valid British Passports are left high and dry by the British Government that these British Citizens have forfeited their British Nationality under Zanzibar independence Act 1963 without giving these colour British Citizen the option whether they wanted to opt for Zanzibar Citizenship or retain their british Nationalty.Even after 45 years many of these people are just living a miserable life.It is time the British government gave a though to this and correct the mistake and reinstate the British Nationaliy of these people.Even after 45 years it is not too late. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.160.107 ( talk) 11:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Zanzibar64 10:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC) The Revolution occured during the night of January 12th 1964. It was a violent one. over the following weeks and months, many thousand Zanzibari Arabs and others were killed. There are various reference books that can be supplied to support this.
On first glance, this looks very good. I expect a pass. A few things:
::Good catch, there's nothing that states that they directly influenced Zanzibar. I have changed this to read "sought to gain influence" -
Dumelow (
talk) 22:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
(arbitrary break)Thanks to some pdfs of the articles that User:Nishkid64 sent me I have expanded the info on the revolution and moved the "following the revolution..." bit to the aftermath. Hopefully the article is a bit more complete now - Dumelow ( talk) 21:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Passing. Congratualations! ~the editorofthewiki ( talk/ contribs/ editor review)~ 18:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
when I google "zanzibar forced marriages" I get 64K hits, presumably related to the revolutionaries forcibly marrying women of Arab and Shirazi descent. The current article makes no mention of this practice in the early post-revolutionary period. Can somebody more knowledgeable discuss this, especially if this was a big deal then, or else at least explain why it WASN'T a big deal? 76.24.104.52 ( talk) 23:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
A few questions, comments etc for the subject expert(s)... EyeSerene talk 10:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
An eyewitness account of revolution is that Abdul Rehman Babu,a communist and a member of ZNP fall out from ZNP and escaped to main land Tanganyika.He organised the revolution.Most of the revolutioneries were outsiders from main land and not Zanzibaris except AR Babu who was a Gazija,that is the cross breed of an Arab and African.The so called revolutionaries were having support of Nyerere and most of these revolutioneries were trained near Velezo in the jungle.Some of the revolutioneris were policemen in Zanzibar Police.Tanganyika was involved in the Mapinduzi. There were about two hundred revolutionaries in the beginning.The Police Officer (name forgotten)in charge of Zanzibar Mobile Force Camp At Mtoni that fateful day had all the weapond of these armed police deposited in the armoury as part of conspiracy.The first ever casualty of the so called revolution was a sentry in the sentry box at the gate of Mtoni Zanzibar Mobile Force camp.There after the armed man entered the camp killing other four guards and broke opened the doors of armoury and looted the weapons.The unarmed police force was taken asleep at Mton and many lost their lives and some joined the revolutioneris. There after the killing and plundering took place and continued for several days.The so called Field Marshall John Okello was a outsider and a mason.All the time Abdul Rehman Babu was in Tanganyika.
The last police station to fall was Mulandege police station.The Sultan of Zanzibar escaped in his small ship and was granted assylum in Britain.The rest of the Government ministers were arrested and imprisoned.Some died in prison and others were released after many years in prison.
Arabs and asians were mercilessly murdered and their women raped and property either plundered or destroyed.Zanzibar was a ghost town.Okello use to announce all sort of whimsical orders from Sauti ya Unguja.
British naval force evacuted its white British nationals living the Asian British Citizens to their fate and at the mercy of Okello and his men who raped young girls and committed all kind of atrocities.Many people fled the country at the first opportunity.Some to main land and others to either middle east or India.
All this time Karume was in hiding but not in Zanzibar.Both Karume and Babu stayed out side the Island in Dar Es Sallam for fear of arrest in case the revolution failed.
Those people who left Zanzibar after revolution are not allowed to return re enter Zanzibar till date even though they were born in Zanzibar and had their property there.
The Brirish have disown the British Citizens of Asian origin and are not allowed to enter or stay in Britain.
It was belief at that time that the Brirish knew about the comming revolution but did not inform the Zanzibar Goverment to settle the score.It was a case of wounded pride and hurt ego. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.162.247 ( talk) 06:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Targeting of Arabs for mass killings, isn't that genocide? -- 41.151.141.63 ( talk) 23:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Operation Parthenon——name change——> Operation Boris——name change——> Operation Finery——name change——> Operation Shed——name change——> Plan Giralda——>CANCELED
We don't need 5 large yet almost identical articles of operations that all failed to be implemented, do we? 77.165.250.227 ( talk) 10:19, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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The intro puts it at 20k, whereas the infobox at 2-4k.-- Adûnâi ( talk) 19:19, 9 May 2018 (UTC)