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If I recall correctly, isn't Yossarian a bomber pilot (the one who flies the bomber) and not the bombadier (who actually aims and drops the bombs)? -- Raul654 22:29, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Yossarian didn't strike me as an anti-hero. He seems to be the only unflawed character in the novel. PoptartKing 00:29, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
This movie portrayed Armenians in WWII as cowards or Shakespearian Falstaff characters. It was absolutely despicable. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 05:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
That is irrelevant to this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.169.100 ( talk) 12:35, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure one throwaway comment by Cathcart is enough to say for certain that Yossarian's first name is John.
It absolutely is NOT "John". The first name is NEVER revealed, leading to the oft-used question of teachers to their Heller readers, "What is Yossarian's first name"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.248.159.226 ( talk) 21:26, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
"Cathcart backs down and offers to release him from duty as a reward for not telling anybody." Not only is this inaccurate, it completely misses the point of the agreement between Yossarian and the Generals at the end of the book. They ask Yossarian to "like" them.
I thought they were going to stick him for desertion - there was no mention of smuggling in my copy of the book, though it does mention Milo tried to smuggle something in Italy, which he told the police commissioner in Rome.
Is it just me, or would it make more sense to have all of a novel's chracters on one page, as opposed to twenty different sites for all of them? 11/27/05
Personally, I see a huge similarity between him and Alan Alda's character, Hawkeye Pierce from MASH 1/31/06
do you know what irony means? 22/5/06
Right I have sorted the ending as it was so obviously wrong. There is no mention of smuggling in the the last 3 chapters!!! This article does need a lot of work on it though. I will likely come along and implement the Wikiproject Novels character template soon - I had not realised before how poor this article was - I was trying to sort out the smaller ones first! Anyway please feel free to flesh out as much as possible the story of Yossarian in Catch-22. I have not read Closing Time yet - so could someone else start writing up what he gets up to in that book.
P.S. Have sorted this discussion out so much easier to navigate. Cheers Lethaniol 11:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Not yet classified, could I suggest to the assessor that it be marked as START (as clearly it is devoid of a lot of useful information and necessary), and as HIGH importance. I believe it should be rated as HIGH as the novel Catch-22 is likely to be promoted to TOP, and as the main protagonist and with a cult anti-hero following, especially at the time of the Vietnam War, and to a lesser extent now. Anyway that's my opinion. - Added by User:Kevinalewis
This section is rather strange. Why is there such an add of the book in the main characters article? I will delete as such, as it has no real value into the whole piece. -- Soetermans 22:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
You make it sound like I delete all empty sections, extraordinaire. Anyway, my apologies for deleting the themes section. So why is the theme section very important? Aren't the book's themes listed on its own article? And isn't this one just about the fictional character Yossarian? -- Soetermans 08:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Understood! Too bad my understanding of literature doesn't suffice to help this article, but I'm glad to know what the goal is here. And sorry for correcting your "cheching", Artiste. -- Soetermans 08:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I was checking out the Italian version of this page, and it made me remember this little catchcry that I've seen pop up from time to time. Apparently a full-page ad was taken out in the NY Times as promotion for the book prior to its release, and all it said was YOSSARIAN LIVES. And although it's been a while and I was never really fussed about it, I seem to recall it being somewhere in Closing Time. Anyone have any solid basis for either of those, and want to chuck it in somewhere? Artiste-extraordinaire 23:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
There are two potential problems I see with the timeline. Three, even. The first is that for those curious souls who wish to hold Wikipedia accountable to its sources, it isn't possible for them to view the original document of the inimitable Clinton S. Burhans, Jr. it its entirety, owing to fact that not everyone has unfettered access to JSTOR. I for one would love to read it, but as it is I once again march along with the majority in not being able to veiw anything but the first page. The second is that (and I believe I've brought this up elsewhere, not going to check, though) there are conflicts and inconsistencies between the chronologies produced by various critics, so even Mr. Burhans, Jr. is not a completely reputable source. Namely, there are Doug Gaukroger (which is viewable for some sort of free spam trial here [1]) and Stephen W. Potts, who made exactly what we are looking for here [2] since it details what are solely Yossarian's actions in the story. The third is that it is structured poorly, with repeated dates on every point. That can be easily fixed by someone with The Know-How, perhaps into a table of some sort, a la Potts, but with care not to plagiarise. Enjoy. Artiste-extraordinaire 13:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
This page needs a spoiler-warning... Can someone who knows the stuff fix one? I didn't want to know what is revealed late in the book(in the process of reading it, and checked the name since I saw one guy using it as nickname, thinking it might have other connections as well) - but now I evidently do.. Darn (: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Abach ( talk • contribs) 02:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC).
Iirc, it is not yossarian who poisons the squadron, it is the mess officor (forgotten his name), who does it to prove that they "have the taste of philistines". Why then does the article state that he does it?"(e.g., poisoning the squadron and moving the bomb line during the “Great Big Siege of Bologna”)". Yes, he move the bomb line, but he dosn't poison anyone. Laurielegit ( talk) 11:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
The mess officer did it a second time, because Yossarian asked him to do it. Just so they wouldn't have to go to Bologna. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.119.88 ( talk) 15:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
This page should be expanded to cover Yossarian's entire fictional life in all Heller works in which he exists, not just the (extensively Wiki-article laden) Catch-22, in particular Closing Time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jszigeti ( talk • contribs) 16:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
The article notes:
Yossarian's name is described as being "an odious, alien, distasteful name, that just did not inspire confidence." It was "...not at all like such clean, crisp, honest, American names as Cathcart, Peckem and Dreedle."
These are not normal American names, and while I laughed out loud at it, people who are not familiar with American naming conventions have no indication that this is meant as humor rather than fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.190.143 ( talk) 19:16, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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If I recall correctly, isn't Yossarian a bomber pilot (the one who flies the bomber) and not the bombadier (who actually aims and drops the bombs)? -- Raul654 22:29, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Yossarian didn't strike me as an anti-hero. He seems to be the only unflawed character in the novel. PoptartKing 00:29, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
This movie portrayed Armenians in WWII as cowards or Shakespearian Falstaff characters. It was absolutely despicable. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 05:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
That is irrelevant to this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.169.100 ( talk) 12:35, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure one throwaway comment by Cathcart is enough to say for certain that Yossarian's first name is John.
It absolutely is NOT "John". The first name is NEVER revealed, leading to the oft-used question of teachers to their Heller readers, "What is Yossarian's first name"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.248.159.226 ( talk) 21:26, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
"Cathcart backs down and offers to release him from duty as a reward for not telling anybody." Not only is this inaccurate, it completely misses the point of the agreement between Yossarian and the Generals at the end of the book. They ask Yossarian to "like" them.
I thought they were going to stick him for desertion - there was no mention of smuggling in my copy of the book, though it does mention Milo tried to smuggle something in Italy, which he told the police commissioner in Rome.
Is it just me, or would it make more sense to have all of a novel's chracters on one page, as opposed to twenty different sites for all of them? 11/27/05
Personally, I see a huge similarity between him and Alan Alda's character, Hawkeye Pierce from MASH 1/31/06
do you know what irony means? 22/5/06
Right I have sorted the ending as it was so obviously wrong. There is no mention of smuggling in the the last 3 chapters!!! This article does need a lot of work on it though. I will likely come along and implement the Wikiproject Novels character template soon - I had not realised before how poor this article was - I was trying to sort out the smaller ones first! Anyway please feel free to flesh out as much as possible the story of Yossarian in Catch-22. I have not read Closing Time yet - so could someone else start writing up what he gets up to in that book.
P.S. Have sorted this discussion out so much easier to navigate. Cheers Lethaniol 11:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Not yet classified, could I suggest to the assessor that it be marked as START (as clearly it is devoid of a lot of useful information and necessary), and as HIGH importance. I believe it should be rated as HIGH as the novel Catch-22 is likely to be promoted to TOP, and as the main protagonist and with a cult anti-hero following, especially at the time of the Vietnam War, and to a lesser extent now. Anyway that's my opinion. - Added by User:Kevinalewis
This section is rather strange. Why is there such an add of the book in the main characters article? I will delete as such, as it has no real value into the whole piece. -- Soetermans 22:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
You make it sound like I delete all empty sections, extraordinaire. Anyway, my apologies for deleting the themes section. So why is the theme section very important? Aren't the book's themes listed on its own article? And isn't this one just about the fictional character Yossarian? -- Soetermans 08:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Understood! Too bad my understanding of literature doesn't suffice to help this article, but I'm glad to know what the goal is here. And sorry for correcting your "cheching", Artiste. -- Soetermans 08:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I was checking out the Italian version of this page, and it made me remember this little catchcry that I've seen pop up from time to time. Apparently a full-page ad was taken out in the NY Times as promotion for the book prior to its release, and all it said was YOSSARIAN LIVES. And although it's been a while and I was never really fussed about it, I seem to recall it being somewhere in Closing Time. Anyone have any solid basis for either of those, and want to chuck it in somewhere? Artiste-extraordinaire 23:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
There are two potential problems I see with the timeline. Three, even. The first is that for those curious souls who wish to hold Wikipedia accountable to its sources, it isn't possible for them to view the original document of the inimitable Clinton S. Burhans, Jr. it its entirety, owing to fact that not everyone has unfettered access to JSTOR. I for one would love to read it, but as it is I once again march along with the majority in not being able to veiw anything but the first page. The second is that (and I believe I've brought this up elsewhere, not going to check, though) there are conflicts and inconsistencies between the chronologies produced by various critics, so even Mr. Burhans, Jr. is not a completely reputable source. Namely, there are Doug Gaukroger (which is viewable for some sort of free spam trial here [1]) and Stephen W. Potts, who made exactly what we are looking for here [2] since it details what are solely Yossarian's actions in the story. The third is that it is structured poorly, with repeated dates on every point. That can be easily fixed by someone with The Know-How, perhaps into a table of some sort, a la Potts, but with care not to plagiarise. Enjoy. Artiste-extraordinaire 13:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
This page needs a spoiler-warning... Can someone who knows the stuff fix one? I didn't want to know what is revealed late in the book(in the process of reading it, and checked the name since I saw one guy using it as nickname, thinking it might have other connections as well) - but now I evidently do.. Darn (: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Abach ( talk • contribs) 02:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC).
Iirc, it is not yossarian who poisons the squadron, it is the mess officor (forgotten his name), who does it to prove that they "have the taste of philistines". Why then does the article state that he does it?"(e.g., poisoning the squadron and moving the bomb line during the “Great Big Siege of Bologna”)". Yes, he move the bomb line, but he dosn't poison anyone. Laurielegit ( talk) 11:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
The mess officer did it a second time, because Yossarian asked him to do it. Just so they wouldn't have to go to Bologna. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.119.88 ( talk) 15:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
This page should be expanded to cover Yossarian's entire fictional life in all Heller works in which he exists, not just the (extensively Wiki-article laden) Catch-22, in particular Closing Time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jszigeti ( talk • contribs) 16:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
The article notes:
Yossarian's name is described as being "an odious, alien, distasteful name, that just did not inspire confidence." It was "...not at all like such clean, crisp, honest, American names as Cathcart, Peckem and Dreedle."
These are not normal American names, and while I laughed out loud at it, people who are not familiar with American naming conventions have no indication that this is meant as humor rather than fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.190.143 ( talk) 19:16, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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