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Here is an article which was in The Examiner on Sep 3. Could be useful as a source.
The URL is http://www.examiner.com.au/story.asp?id=359597 , but since the site is pay to access, I will reproduce the content here in case any editors want to make use of it - of course don't insert it verbatim into the article, make sure you add the article to references, and delete it from the talk page when done ASAP. -- Chuq 12:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
THE MAKING OF TASSIE'S BIGGEST SPORT ICON
In the early 1920s the folks of Launceston proudly admired the conversion of a swamp into a giant open-air sports field. After 80 years of small improvements, York Park metamorphosed in to a modern AFL stadium capable of hosting World Cup-standard events is even more dramatic. SOPHIE FOWLER looks at the evolution of a country ground to a modern-day Colosseum.
THE idea of dumping your old tyres and grass clippings at York Park could be seen as sacrilege these days but there was a time when it was commonplace.
The site was once a tip.
Having emerged from equally unglamorous beginnings as a swamp, York Park became a showground before cementing its place in the community as a sport ground and people's venue.
Named in honour of the Duke and Duchess of York, who visited Tasmania during the Federation celebration in 1901, the ground was originally developed for football, cricket, tennis, bowling, cycling and foot-racing.
The park was officially opened by the St Andrews Caledonian Society, at its New Year's Day sport day in 1921.
Eighty-five years later, the venue now known as Aurora Stadium has been transformed.
In fact, the ground has undergone a number of transformations over time but none more significant than those of the last seven years.
Redevelopments have ensured that the park received the global attention it deserves after having hosted everything from an Ike and Tina Turner concert to an evangelism performance by Billy Graham as well as vigoro, gymkhana, soccer and rugby events.
But it was the introduction of AFL to Tasmania and Aurora Stadium that really put the venue on the map and provided the catalyst for a worthy $20 million make-over.
Aurora Stadium ground manager Robert Groenewegan remembers the start.
"Redevelopment started in 1999 as a result of the money promised in the 1998 Federal election," he recalled.
"So you would have been able to park your car next to the boundary fence up until then. It's hard to believe now."
Mr Groenewegan said the stadium had exceeded his expectations and continued to out-do itself, which in turn meant continued improvements - a cycle that has continued since the ground's initial development.
"In the early days when we just had the middle part of the Gunns stand built and the light towers, I used to walk out and just think the place was absolutely marvellous because I couldn't believe we'd got to that stage. It just snowballed after that," he said.
"For the early AFL games we bunked in some temporary seating but by 2002 we thought we better stop bunking in infrastructure and build some so we introduced the terrace seating. They were all out in the open and needed a roof over them so the rooves were another whole project. We were reasonably protected from the weather then but were really lacking in corporate facilities so bit by bit we had to really work that up and redeveloped the function room."
Mr Groenewegan said that the addition of lights had given the ground great versatility and the stadium now included a function space that was comparable to the best in the country, a media area, coaches' boxes and range of facilities needed to host an AFL game that were second to none.
" I do pinch myself sometimes when I think about how far we've come," he said.
Community support had been integral to the success of the stadium and had been very strong, according to Mr Groenewegan.
He said he was proud to have been able to provide a range of events in return for the public's loyalty.
"I'm pretty proud of the fact that we've been able to use it for things other than sport," he said.
"We had the big function on New Year's Eve which went really well, we had the (stunt bike team) Krusty Demons which was a huge challenge because we had an AFL game the following week and we've got a military tattoo coming up.
"I think the community are starting to say, `We want to use the ground for more things' and we're working really hard to try and bring more events here.
"It really is a community place at the end of the day. It always has been and we want to keep it that way."
Despite some controversy over the name, Mr Groenewegan said he had also received positive feedback from the public in regard to the stadium's most recent addition - the Jim Bacon gates.
"Most people I've spoken to are thrilled that we've been able to recognise Jim," he said.
"There's been some people that have indicated that they should have been named after some footballers that have made a good contribution but I see our Hall of Fame as the spot to acknowledge them.
"Jim played an integral role right from the start. He was a major driver and deserved some recognition."
I suggest this page be moved to York Park as per the (sort of recent) moves of Stadium Australia and Docklands Stadium. Comments? -- Chuq (talk) 13:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Found an article in the local newspaper(online) I don't have time to write something up, maybe someone else can, should be some good information here [1] Stony ( talk) 05:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
This review is transcluded from Talk:York Park/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
I'm failing this article, I'm afraid. There's a lot of work to do as far as I can see, mainly on the prose and a few gritty MOS issues.
There are a number of other minor things that need to be improved. If you want any more advice, just send me a message. Most of the work will need to be done improving the history section, and re-writing the lists as prose. It's too much work to put the article on hold. Peanut4 ( talk) 23:15, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Is the article worth B-Grade listing? Aaroncrick ( talk) 07:22, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Why are you getting rid of 2008 fixtures that Aaroncrick keeps adding?? Other minor AFL grounds such as Carrara Stadium and Manuaka Oval have the fixtures. Is this personal all something? grow up and stop it! Lukeyslegends ( talk) 02:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Stop deleting 2008 AFL Fixtures/Schedule!! Aaroncrick ( talk) 02:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I think there are some basic things about Wikipedia you aren't aware of. Wikipedia isn't a free-for-all where you can post whatever you want - there are rules and policies to keep things organised. The links in my comments above are to various Wikipedia policies and guidelines, so when you say "that doesn't matter" or "that sounds stupid" well, they are the rules which have kept Wikipedia going. Things added need to be notable, need to be verifiable. When I first started I made edits which were then deleted/reverted, lots of people do, but I learned from them. -- Chuq (talk) 11:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Aurora Stadium has not hosted.
* Ike & Tina Turner concert * Billy Graham evangelical performance
Where on earth would you get that from? Aaroncrick ( talk) 03:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Has never hosted these things! Aaroncrick ( talk) 08:31, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok then you may be right, but you have to be a member of the Examiner to view it, so i can't read it. Aaroncrick ( talk) 11:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I read on the Launceston City Council that the stands name has changed, but i can't find the name change on any other site. Should it be kept at Eastern Terrace. Aaroncrick ( talk) 10:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Is the article worth B-Grade listing? Aaroncrick ( talk) 07:25, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
The following sentence in the lead puzzles me - The ground has only been used as an international sports venue since the turn of the century.
I know I'm being picky, but I would love to see the article get to GA Shelbypark ( talk) 01:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I've listed the article for GAN a couple of weeks ago, so hopefully the process gets completed soon. Aaroncrick ( talk) 09:07, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I've added a sub section titled 'Hall of Fame' - I thought it was significant enough to include. My only problem is that I can't find any evidence of the actual, physical Hall of Fame being planned for or built. Nor can I find any evidence of it being 'put on hold'. Can anyone help out on this one? Shelbypark ( talk) 07:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Just some initial notes on the article
- Peripitus (Talk) 06:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I've gone throught the Examiner archive and filled in missing refs, so it should become a GA again in the near future. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 03:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I'll be reviewing this article. The rules for GA reviews are stated at Good Article criteria. I usually do reviews in the order: coverage; structure; detailed walk-through of sections (refs, prose, other details); images (after the text content is stable); lead (ditto). Feel free to respond to my comments under each one, and please sign each response, so that it's clear who said what.
When an issue is resolved, I'll mark it with Done. If I think an issue remains unresolved after responses / changes by the editor(s), I'll mark it Not done. Occasionally I decide one of my comments is off-target, and strike it out --
BTW I've occasionally had edit conflicts in review pages, and to reduce this risk I'd be grateful if you'd let me know when you're most active, so I can avoid these times. -- Philcha ( talk) 23:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
When you've dealt with the referencing issues, please recheck the prose carefully. It might be best to get a friend to check for you, as I know I find it easier to spot others' mistakes than my own :-/ -- Philcha ( talk) 23:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I think there's little point in my walking through further sections until the issues raised above are resolved. Please leave messages here to discuss things or when you think you've fixed the issues. -- Philcha ( talk) 23:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Think all issues have been resolved. Shame you won't be able to continue as you've done a fantastic job so far. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 10:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
The link checker report shows 2 issues:
(to be done when any issues in the main text have been resolved) shortcut for en.wikipedia.org with redirected and disambig page options selected -- Philcha ( talk) 08:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Almost missed this in all the restructuring.
Done Aaroncrick ( talk) 12:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm very pleased to say that this article meets or exceeds the Good Article criteria: it provides good coverage, is neutral and well-referenced, clearly-written, complies with the parts of WP:MOS required for a GA and uses appropriate images that have good captions and comply with WP's policies on images.
Aaroncrick, many thanks fr the determiation you showed in tracking down those elusive refs. Wizardman, thanks for polishing up the rough edges.
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Anyone have one for the crowd figure as http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,22893452-5007221,00.htm has died/. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 07:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure St Kilda should go under the tenants. 2001-06, I think. Anyone got a ref for that? Gibbsy spin 00:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
A "few weeks" of copy editing before it should be proposed for FA again. Sounds easy enough.
"The ground's record attendance is 20,971, recorded in an AFL match between Hawthorn and Richmond on 18 June 2006. This match occurred before the Northern Stand was damaged, decreasing the stadium capacity." Jumped out. This could read like the decreased capacity was related to that particular match's attendance.
Maybe something like: The ground's record attendance is 20,971, recorded in an AFL match between Hawthorn and Richmond on 18 June 2006. This match occurred before the Northern Stand was damaged, decreasing the stadium capacity.[53] An AFL match between Hawthorn and St Kilda on 8 August 2009 saw a capacity (add: the first ever sell-out?) crowd of 20,011—the largest crowd since the fire reduced the stadium's capacity.[53][54] The stadium's lowest AFL attendance is 12,465, recorded in a match between St Kilda and Fremantle on 3 April 2005.[52]
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Here is an article which was in The Examiner on Sep 3. Could be useful as a source.
The URL is http://www.examiner.com.au/story.asp?id=359597 , but since the site is pay to access, I will reproduce the content here in case any editors want to make use of it - of course don't insert it verbatim into the article, make sure you add the article to references, and delete it from the talk page when done ASAP. -- Chuq 12:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
THE MAKING OF TASSIE'S BIGGEST SPORT ICON
In the early 1920s the folks of Launceston proudly admired the conversion of a swamp into a giant open-air sports field. After 80 years of small improvements, York Park metamorphosed in to a modern AFL stadium capable of hosting World Cup-standard events is even more dramatic. SOPHIE FOWLER looks at the evolution of a country ground to a modern-day Colosseum.
THE idea of dumping your old tyres and grass clippings at York Park could be seen as sacrilege these days but there was a time when it was commonplace.
The site was once a tip.
Having emerged from equally unglamorous beginnings as a swamp, York Park became a showground before cementing its place in the community as a sport ground and people's venue.
Named in honour of the Duke and Duchess of York, who visited Tasmania during the Federation celebration in 1901, the ground was originally developed for football, cricket, tennis, bowling, cycling and foot-racing.
The park was officially opened by the St Andrews Caledonian Society, at its New Year's Day sport day in 1921.
Eighty-five years later, the venue now known as Aurora Stadium has been transformed.
In fact, the ground has undergone a number of transformations over time but none more significant than those of the last seven years.
Redevelopments have ensured that the park received the global attention it deserves after having hosted everything from an Ike and Tina Turner concert to an evangelism performance by Billy Graham as well as vigoro, gymkhana, soccer and rugby events.
But it was the introduction of AFL to Tasmania and Aurora Stadium that really put the venue on the map and provided the catalyst for a worthy $20 million make-over.
Aurora Stadium ground manager Robert Groenewegan remembers the start.
"Redevelopment started in 1999 as a result of the money promised in the 1998 Federal election," he recalled.
"So you would have been able to park your car next to the boundary fence up until then. It's hard to believe now."
Mr Groenewegan said the stadium had exceeded his expectations and continued to out-do itself, which in turn meant continued improvements - a cycle that has continued since the ground's initial development.
"In the early days when we just had the middle part of the Gunns stand built and the light towers, I used to walk out and just think the place was absolutely marvellous because I couldn't believe we'd got to that stage. It just snowballed after that," he said.
"For the early AFL games we bunked in some temporary seating but by 2002 we thought we better stop bunking in infrastructure and build some so we introduced the terrace seating. They were all out in the open and needed a roof over them so the rooves were another whole project. We were reasonably protected from the weather then but were really lacking in corporate facilities so bit by bit we had to really work that up and redeveloped the function room."
Mr Groenewegan said that the addition of lights had given the ground great versatility and the stadium now included a function space that was comparable to the best in the country, a media area, coaches' boxes and range of facilities needed to host an AFL game that were second to none.
" I do pinch myself sometimes when I think about how far we've come," he said.
Community support had been integral to the success of the stadium and had been very strong, according to Mr Groenewegan.
He said he was proud to have been able to provide a range of events in return for the public's loyalty.
"I'm pretty proud of the fact that we've been able to use it for things other than sport," he said.
"We had the big function on New Year's Eve which went really well, we had the (stunt bike team) Krusty Demons which was a huge challenge because we had an AFL game the following week and we've got a military tattoo coming up.
"I think the community are starting to say, `We want to use the ground for more things' and we're working really hard to try and bring more events here.
"It really is a community place at the end of the day. It always has been and we want to keep it that way."
Despite some controversy over the name, Mr Groenewegan said he had also received positive feedback from the public in regard to the stadium's most recent addition - the Jim Bacon gates.
"Most people I've spoken to are thrilled that we've been able to recognise Jim," he said.
"There's been some people that have indicated that they should have been named after some footballers that have made a good contribution but I see our Hall of Fame as the spot to acknowledge them.
"Jim played an integral role right from the start. He was a major driver and deserved some recognition."
I suggest this page be moved to York Park as per the (sort of recent) moves of Stadium Australia and Docklands Stadium. Comments? -- Chuq (talk) 13:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Found an article in the local newspaper(online) I don't have time to write something up, maybe someone else can, should be some good information here [1] Stony ( talk) 05:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
This review is transcluded from Talk:York Park/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
I'm failing this article, I'm afraid. There's a lot of work to do as far as I can see, mainly on the prose and a few gritty MOS issues.
There are a number of other minor things that need to be improved. If you want any more advice, just send me a message. Most of the work will need to be done improving the history section, and re-writing the lists as prose. It's too much work to put the article on hold. Peanut4 ( talk) 23:15, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Is the article worth B-Grade listing? Aaroncrick ( talk) 07:22, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Why are you getting rid of 2008 fixtures that Aaroncrick keeps adding?? Other minor AFL grounds such as Carrara Stadium and Manuaka Oval have the fixtures. Is this personal all something? grow up and stop it! Lukeyslegends ( talk) 02:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Stop deleting 2008 AFL Fixtures/Schedule!! Aaroncrick ( talk) 02:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I think there are some basic things about Wikipedia you aren't aware of. Wikipedia isn't a free-for-all where you can post whatever you want - there are rules and policies to keep things organised. The links in my comments above are to various Wikipedia policies and guidelines, so when you say "that doesn't matter" or "that sounds stupid" well, they are the rules which have kept Wikipedia going. Things added need to be notable, need to be verifiable. When I first started I made edits which were then deleted/reverted, lots of people do, but I learned from them. -- Chuq (talk) 11:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Aurora Stadium has not hosted.
* Ike & Tina Turner concert * Billy Graham evangelical performance
Where on earth would you get that from? Aaroncrick ( talk) 03:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Has never hosted these things! Aaroncrick ( talk) 08:31, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok then you may be right, but you have to be a member of the Examiner to view it, so i can't read it. Aaroncrick ( talk) 11:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I read on the Launceston City Council that the stands name has changed, but i can't find the name change on any other site. Should it be kept at Eastern Terrace. Aaroncrick ( talk) 10:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Is the article worth B-Grade listing? Aaroncrick ( talk) 07:25, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
The following sentence in the lead puzzles me - The ground has only been used as an international sports venue since the turn of the century.
I know I'm being picky, but I would love to see the article get to GA Shelbypark ( talk) 01:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I've listed the article for GAN a couple of weeks ago, so hopefully the process gets completed soon. Aaroncrick ( talk) 09:07, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I've added a sub section titled 'Hall of Fame' - I thought it was significant enough to include. My only problem is that I can't find any evidence of the actual, physical Hall of Fame being planned for or built. Nor can I find any evidence of it being 'put on hold'. Can anyone help out on this one? Shelbypark ( talk) 07:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Just some initial notes on the article
- Peripitus (Talk) 06:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I've gone throught the Examiner archive and filled in missing refs, so it should become a GA again in the near future. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 03:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I'll be reviewing this article. The rules for GA reviews are stated at Good Article criteria. I usually do reviews in the order: coverage; structure; detailed walk-through of sections (refs, prose, other details); images (after the text content is stable); lead (ditto). Feel free to respond to my comments under each one, and please sign each response, so that it's clear who said what.
When an issue is resolved, I'll mark it with Done. If I think an issue remains unresolved after responses / changes by the editor(s), I'll mark it Not done. Occasionally I decide one of my comments is off-target, and strike it out --
BTW I've occasionally had edit conflicts in review pages, and to reduce this risk I'd be grateful if you'd let me know when you're most active, so I can avoid these times. -- Philcha ( talk) 23:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
When you've dealt with the referencing issues, please recheck the prose carefully. It might be best to get a friend to check for you, as I know I find it easier to spot others' mistakes than my own :-/ -- Philcha ( talk) 23:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I think there's little point in my walking through further sections until the issues raised above are resolved. Please leave messages here to discuss things or when you think you've fixed the issues. -- Philcha ( talk) 23:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Think all issues have been resolved. Shame you won't be able to continue as you've done a fantastic job so far. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 10:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
The link checker report shows 2 issues:
(to be done when any issues in the main text have been resolved) shortcut for en.wikipedia.org with redirected and disambig page options selected -- Philcha ( talk) 08:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Almost missed this in all the restructuring.
Done Aaroncrick ( talk) 12:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm very pleased to say that this article meets or exceeds the Good Article criteria: it provides good coverage, is neutral and well-referenced, clearly-written, complies with the parts of WP:MOS required for a GA and uses appropriate images that have good captions and comply with WP's policies on images.
Aaroncrick, many thanks fr the determiation you showed in tracking down those elusive refs. Wizardman, thanks for polishing up the rough edges.
If you've got 2 or more articles to GA status, please consider reviewing some other GA candidate articles. You'll find a list of candidate articles at WP:GAN, grouped by subject area. In addition to the instructions there and the Good Article criteria, I recommend that you read Wikipedia:Reviewing good articles. If at any stage in a review you are uncertain about how to handle something, ask at WT:GAN, where experienced reviewers will be happy to help. -- Philcha ( talk) 13:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
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Anyone have one for the crowd figure as http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,22893452-5007221,00.htm has died/. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 07:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure St Kilda should go under the tenants. 2001-06, I think. Anyone got a ref for that? Gibbsy spin 00:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
A "few weeks" of copy editing before it should be proposed for FA again. Sounds easy enough.
"The ground's record attendance is 20,971, recorded in an AFL match between Hawthorn and Richmond on 18 June 2006. This match occurred before the Northern Stand was damaged, decreasing the stadium capacity." Jumped out. This could read like the decreased capacity was related to that particular match's attendance.
Maybe something like: The ground's record attendance is 20,971, recorded in an AFL match between Hawthorn and Richmond on 18 June 2006. This match occurred before the Northern Stand was damaged, decreasing the stadium capacity.[53] An AFL match between Hawthorn and St Kilda on 8 August 2009 saw a capacity (add: the first ever sell-out?) crowd of 20,011—the largest crowd since the fire reduced the stadium's capacity.[53][54] The stadium's lowest AFL attendance is 12,465, recorded in a match between St Kilda and Fremantle on 3 April 2005.[52]
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