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Assessed as "Start" standard with "High" importance. A section on amateur RL in the area may be useful, as would some photographs (particularly any from previous eras) and a section on notable players. Tim Fellows 03:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
The Squad needs updating to the 2009 squad, info can be found on club website —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.61.234.13 ( talk) 19:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm running the new Knights website and can provide new images, historical photos, squad lists or indeed pretty much any info you may need and I am authorised to do so. I can't however get to grips with Wikicode, although I've made a couple of updates. If you'd like to contact me regarding getting the Knights article up to date, please email: dsom 73 (at) hot mail . com 86.159.118.27 ( talk) 13:24, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Did Colin Forsyth, ever play for York? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy ( talk) 08:57, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
A player named F. W. Oliver [1] won a cap for England in 1909 against Wales while at York, a player named F. W. Oliver played for Hull [2] [3] during the 1904–05 season are they the same person?
According to FreeBMD, the births of two people named F. W. Oliver were registered in the East Riding of Yorkshire, the county in which Hull resides, and the North Riding of Yorkshire, the county in which York resides, between 1874 and 1889, i.e. coinciding with a circa-1904…1914 playing career, they are; Frank William Oliver ( birth registered during October→December 1875 in York district), and Frederick William Oliver ( birth registered during October→December 1878 in Hull district), are either of these F. W. Oliver?
As an interesting aside, the botanist Francis Wall Oliver (F. W. Oliver) was educated, but not born, in York
Best regards DynamoDegsy ( talk) 11:03, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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York City Knights → ? – The club is renaming itself York RLFC but nicknaming itself York Knights. Which title should be used here? Nthep ( talk) 11:33, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
[[York City Knights Ladies|York City Knights]]
if and when an article about the women's team is created.
Nthep (
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Move to York R.L.F.C. (for now), as that is the official name of the club. If the media does end up referring to the club by a different name then it can be revisited, but we shouldn't speculate before then, per policy. J Mo 101 ( talk) 15:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
I agree sense to have it under York RLFC for now. I’d also suggest merging the York Wasps page as the new club is considered the same as the old one. Bradford Bulls/Northern have gone bust a few times and it’s all in one page Northern Wonder ( talk) 21:08, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
A merge would impact the quality of the article needing significant work to put right, the international caps section from the Wasps would be incomplete/need updating as we currently have no equivalent in the Knights article. The Knights seasons section would go from being complete to missing over 120 years, and there would be a similar issue with the kit sponsors and manufacturers section (although I would prefer to see this replaced with a section on historical kits or club identity – see for example York City F.C.#Club identity). The history section may become long enough that it should be split off into a separate article with a new shorter summary written in its place. Also, a merge does not seem necessary when the hatnotes, intros and history sections for the two articles can make it clear what happened 20 years ago even if the new website announcement tries to minimize these events. If we do keep the articles separate, there is still clean-up work to do – the history needs more citations and pre-2003 honours (if runner-up is actually an honour) should be cited and moved. What the announcement did make clear is the "one club, two teams" theme and gives three definitions, a club: York RLFC, a men's team: Knights, and a women's team: Valkyrie. If the article is to be named York RLFC it should aim to cover all aspects of the club even if there is only a smaller section on the Valkyrie (with links to a main article once written), but as it covers only the men's team having Knights as part of the article name provides a more specific description of the contents. EdwardUK ( talk) 20:18, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
The leagueicon and colours used for York are different on several articles and templates. This main article uses
Sunshine Coast, but others use
Castleford,
Wellington or
Balmain (as is used for York Wasps) and
York City for pre-2017 knights. I suggest for consistency that the icons for the team should be changed to match each other (with the exception of the blue icon – for use when referring to the team during seasons in which this kit was worn) and would like to establish a consensus for what to use: either one of the existing icons, creating a new flag icon in amber and black (top-left/bottom-right) (this would be my preference- and is also the colours used on the club website), or any other suggestions.
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York City Knights → ? – The article name should be updated as the club no longer uses "City", the new name could include RLFC, Knights or both. EdwardUK ( talk) 13:38, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
If we postpone any discussion of merges here are some suggestions:
Whichever title is used could have a similar intro such as:
York RLFC (known as York City Knights from 2002 to 2022) are an English professional rugby league club based in York. The men’s team are the York Knights and the women’s team are York Valkyrie. The Knights play…
The York Knights are an English professional men’s rugby league team based in York. They represent York RLFC (known as York City Knights from 2002 to 2022) which also has a women’s team called York Valkyrie. The Knights play…
If we used 1 or 2 I would prefer to use RLFC as this is how it appears on the website and logo. As noted in the previous move request I think that as it is an article primarily about the men’s team it should include knights in the name, so my preference is for either option 2a or 3. EdwardUK ( talk) 13:46, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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Assessed as "Start" standard with "High" importance. A section on amateur RL in the area may be useful, as would some photographs (particularly any from previous eras) and a section on notable players. Tim Fellows 03:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
The Squad needs updating to the 2009 squad, info can be found on club website —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.61.234.13 ( talk) 19:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm running the new Knights website and can provide new images, historical photos, squad lists or indeed pretty much any info you may need and I am authorised to do so. I can't however get to grips with Wikicode, although I've made a couple of updates. If you'd like to contact me regarding getting the Knights article up to date, please email: dsom 73 (at) hot mail . com 86.159.118.27 ( talk) 13:24, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Did Colin Forsyth, ever play for York? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy ( talk) 08:57, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
A player named F. W. Oliver [1] won a cap for England in 1909 against Wales while at York, a player named F. W. Oliver played for Hull [2] [3] during the 1904–05 season are they the same person?
According to FreeBMD, the births of two people named F. W. Oliver were registered in the East Riding of Yorkshire, the county in which Hull resides, and the North Riding of Yorkshire, the county in which York resides, between 1874 and 1889, i.e. coinciding with a circa-1904…1914 playing career, they are; Frank William Oliver ( birth registered during October→December 1875 in York district), and Frederick William Oliver ( birth registered during October→December 1878 in Hull district), are either of these F. W. Oliver?
As an interesting aside, the botanist Francis Wall Oliver (F. W. Oliver) was educated, but not born, in York
Best regards DynamoDegsy ( talk) 11:03, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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York City Knights → ? – The club is renaming itself York RLFC but nicknaming itself York Knights. Which title should be used here? Nthep ( talk) 11:33, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
[[York City Knights Ladies|York City Knights]]
if and when an article about the women's team is created.
Nthep (
talk)
12:31, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Move to York R.L.F.C. (for now), as that is the official name of the club. If the media does end up referring to the club by a different name then it can be revisited, but we shouldn't speculate before then, per policy. J Mo 101 ( talk) 15:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
I agree sense to have it under York RLFC for now. I’d also suggest merging the York Wasps page as the new club is considered the same as the old one. Bradford Bulls/Northern have gone bust a few times and it’s all in one page Northern Wonder ( talk) 21:08, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
A merge would impact the quality of the article needing significant work to put right, the international caps section from the Wasps would be incomplete/need updating as we currently have no equivalent in the Knights article. The Knights seasons section would go from being complete to missing over 120 years, and there would be a similar issue with the kit sponsors and manufacturers section (although I would prefer to see this replaced with a section on historical kits or club identity – see for example York City F.C.#Club identity). The history section may become long enough that it should be split off into a separate article with a new shorter summary written in its place. Also, a merge does not seem necessary when the hatnotes, intros and history sections for the two articles can make it clear what happened 20 years ago even if the new website announcement tries to minimize these events. If we do keep the articles separate, there is still clean-up work to do – the history needs more citations and pre-2003 honours (if runner-up is actually an honour) should be cited and moved. What the announcement did make clear is the "one club, two teams" theme and gives three definitions, a club: York RLFC, a men's team: Knights, and a women's team: Valkyrie. If the article is to be named York RLFC it should aim to cover all aspects of the club even if there is only a smaller section on the Valkyrie (with links to a main article once written), but as it covers only the men's team having Knights as part of the article name provides a more specific description of the contents. EdwardUK ( talk) 20:18, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
The leagueicon and colours used for York are different on several articles and templates. This main article uses
Sunshine Coast, but others use
Castleford,
Wellington or
Balmain (as is used for York Wasps) and
York City for pre-2017 knights. I suggest for consistency that the icons for the team should be changed to match each other (with the exception of the blue icon – for use when referring to the team during seasons in which this kit was worn) and would like to establish a consensus for what to use: either one of the existing icons, creating a new flag icon in amber and black (top-left/bottom-right) (this would be my preference- and is also the colours used on the club website), or any other suggestions.
EdwardUK (
talk)
16:35, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
![]() | It was proposed in this section that
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York City Knights → ? – The article name should be updated as the club no longer uses "City", the new name could include RLFC, Knights or both. EdwardUK ( talk) 13:38, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
If we postpone any discussion of merges here are some suggestions:
Whichever title is used could have a similar intro such as:
York RLFC (known as York City Knights from 2002 to 2022) are an English professional rugby league club based in York. The men’s team are the York Knights and the women’s team are York Valkyrie. The Knights play…
The York Knights are an English professional men’s rugby league team based in York. They represent York RLFC (known as York City Knights from 2002 to 2022) which also has a women’s team called York Valkyrie. The Knights play…
If we used 1 or 2 I would prefer to use RLFC as this is how it appears on the website and logo. As noted in the previous move request I think that as it is an article primarily about the men’s team it should include knights in the name, so my preference is for either option 2a or 3. EdwardUK ( talk) 13:46, 26 October 2022 (UTC)