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I tried to mod the Acting career/Film section, I added REF's to all the info I tried to change. It was all verifiable info on the movies she has been in or done. What came back was a note from cluebot NG. I know for sure I did everything correctly. So is it like a automatic type thing I got caught in? Because Im not trying to take a hour again and set it all up, just to have it removed by a automatic program. Send me a provate note if you have input on this issue.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 22:19, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Ok never mind guys, I figured out how to add the verified information, and add REF's. so Im cool I think. Plus no one has chewed me out in a day or so.
But in the section....
Die Antwoord[edit source]
Die Antwoord is a rap/rave group consisting of Visser, Ninja (Watkin Tudor Jones) and DJ Hi-Tek (Justin de Nobrega).[4][5]
REF link "5" takse you to a Drake homophobilc slur link but there is zero mention of this in the topic. as you can plainly see. Or at least from what I see.
Here is the link......
5. Chris Payne (2015-03-03). "Drake Called Homophobic Slur by Die Antwoord". Billboard. Retrieved 2016-03-14.
And it takes you here...
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/6487654/drake-die-antwoord-homophobic-slur
So I can remove that and repair the entire section? -- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 04:04, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Centerone, if that was you that fixed that stylized Y in the yolandi name, thank you. I dont have that key that makes that letter.
Also I finally figured out how the links work so Im only trying to mod what I can back up with REFs and links to those Refs.
I also changed the picture if there is a problem with it let me know but I believe it would be considered fair usage since its everywhere. If not let me know.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 23:39, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
I Have read/watched quite a few interviews with Ninja/Yolandi and I have seen nothing about them being married. They typically play down any romantic relationship while proclaiming to be good parents together. The two of them with their daughter were on the cover of South Africa Rolling Stone. Their daughter was also in the video Enter the Ninja. Also within the past couple of days Yolandi was on the cover of South African FHM Magazine. This will be my first go at being an editor but I'll see what I can do to add to this article. I'll find some sources, etc. 24.7.139.94 ( talk) 01:01, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Yo-Landi and Ninja have never been married and even though they do have a child together they are not in a relationship and have not been since 2007. They are both great parents/friends but they are not together. talk
1) The photograph is overexposed. I guess that's because Yolandi is under bright stage lights while wearing shiny or light clothing, and she's pale and blonde. Still, it would be great if someone who knew their way around PhotoShop could fix it up.
2) In one of the video interviews, Jones mentions that he and Visser have a child together. Should this be mentioned? Dylan Flaherty ( talk) 05:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Found a brief article on a reputable news site which confirms her real name is Anri Du Toit. http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/band-have-the-answer-to-secret-of-success-1.1233050?ot=inmsa.ArticlePrintPageLayout.ot Stellaseeker ( talk) 17:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Respectfully to those who have worked on this article, this article is barely about Yolandi. I'd like to help improve it if someone would like to collaborate on it with me. Unirider ( talk) 01:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 17:17, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
On the 'Watkin Tudor jones' page at the bottom, it says that they are both vegetarians, based on a 2012 interview yet this article says they are both Vegans. Which is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.30.69 ( talk) 11:16, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
They are vegetarians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 09:26, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Per internet movie database Born: March 3, 1984 in Port Alfred, Eastern Cape, South Africa Bobmodikiw ( talk) 04:49, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
She changed her birthday date on VK from March 1984 to December 1982. No idea if any of the two is correct. http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/yolandi-visser.html claims the first one is.
Any insights? -- KAMiKAZOW ( talk) 17:38, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
I totally get that, its ok. Well what can I do to get the birth year added? Because I know it is 1984, but finding proof of the birth year online is hard as fudge. Whats my best option here fellows.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 15:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I do have videos somewhere that I'm sure she says her birthday is 1984, if I find those and upload them, can I use that as a ref link for her birthday? If the answer is yes I will look for them today, I would really like to get the birthday corrected.
As some of you may know on the internet its every thing from march 3 1982 - march 3 1984 - December 1 1984. I just want to make sure the correct one gets on there and I know that takes a REF link.
As far as them just making a specific video to correct all the issues on wiki though I dont see them doing that. :( It would be nice, but I'm stuck with what I have to work with.-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 17:42, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
^^You must not been able to read the first sentence I posted? I do appreciate all you other comments though, they seemed very mature.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 22:24, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Some people told me I needed verification of Yo landi's Birthday. I found several links to her actual birthday. Not sure if this is enough to get her birthday put back on her profile CORRECTED not March 3rd. I already tried to mod it a few times only to have it reverted.
http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/yolandi-visser.html
http://omygsh.com/post/249-hot-celebs-with-december-b-days/1?category=TRENDY
And the following video was shot in Hawaii on December 1st 2015. In it you can hear the crowd singing happy birthday to her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1rEvum3Jqk
But if you dont want to take my word for it. Please take the word of the person this article is about.
https://www.instagram.com/p/zxqHxNQ8Lj/?taken-by=prawn_star&hl=en
She even states on her OWN instagram account her birthday is December 1st 1984.
Her Birthday is December 1st 1984 http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/yolandi-visser.html That is the correct year, 1984. -- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 00:29, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
We should not used the stylized Vi$$er in the body of the article. - Xcuref1endx ( talk) 02:56, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
She prefers to be called Yolandi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 09:26, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
I think where it is stylized in the biography section where it says it is stylized should be the only place it is stylized, otherwise I think it should just say "Visser" -- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 00:31, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
An editor is turning the career section into a filmography and discography. Neither of those are necessary since the content is very limited, it could just be listed and does not need to include the cast of the film. - Xcuref1endx ( talk) 05:53, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
After you see the picture can you please stop messing with my edits? I really do know Anri du Toit and I really am trying to fix her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 09:12, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
I will read it before I try to do anything else.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 20:42, 13 March 2016
Greetings, So Die Antwoord Staff came in, tried to make a bunch of changes, some of which were reverted, but then he was blocked because of his username and wikipedia policy. He came back I believe as Gene ZEF. He's making changes now, a lot of them, but he's getting better at what he's doing.. but he still wiped out a number of references. One problem is the general unreliable information out there about Yolandi and Ninja due to their desire to create an atmosphere around themselves artistically. As an example, we have an article that has a birthdate in it, however, other articles say other things, and Yolandi / Anri tells Gene ZEF something different entirely. How do we make sure the information is accurate and not OR when minor tweaks are made by Gene ZEF on their behalf? Things like getting a better photo direct from the source contributed to wikimedia, or fixing simple things like a birthdate I can accept as good things. Centerone ( talk) 02:48, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
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SO here is what we did. Since you guys will not let us edit her page we went right around you and built a fan website and are starting to post the correct information. Have a look. http://dieantwoord.forumotion.com/ Now we fought and fought with you people over "Waddy's /info/en/?search=Watkin_Tudor_Jones Wiki page" and still the page is not correct. We hope that in the future a site such as yours (which is suppose to be full of correct information) Will let the "ACTUAL" people a wiki page is about, modify it to show corrected information.
Now imagine how she felt when none of her fans wished her a "Happy Birthday" on her "ACTUAL" birthday? Now we can imagine that you people feel some type of way about all this.... But this place suck's horse arse. But "Die Antwoord World wide Fans" thinks you are unorganized, over moderated, your staff is under educated, your site is to hard to navigate, you have mods that have no candor or sense of human civility.
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I personally know Anri du Toit (Yo-Landi Visser) She would like me to fix this page once and for all.
You guys are the masters here. I tried to repair the topic and couldnt do it. So I need a mentor(s) to help me correct the entire page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 02:05, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Ok I fugured out how the links work now. I tried to upload and fix the film acting part of her profile today I had links and everything so that they worked when you clicked on them. But Cluebot NG removed them, I sent a report hopefully they let it go thru. I know i did it right because all the links work. ;)--
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"Not a former partner if the band hasn't broken up yet. They may be ex-bf/gf but that is not the same thing. Reference may be good elsewhere" The context here is romantic partner, not band partner. That's why the sentence is "Visser's former partner and current band mate" The context is:
Chaheel Riens ( talk) 21:58, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
I tried changing it with a pic I thought would be considered to be a "fair usage" picture, it was reverted. I was successful in using a still frmae for the Watkin Jones account. I am assuming that if I can get a good still picture of YoLandi off a video I made, I can use that on this account too? and we can get rid of that picture currently in the infobox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene Zef2 ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Well the picture was taken from a still shot of a video I made at one concert, however Im not a photo editing typed of person so I asked a friend to make it black and white. I still dont see any issue with that, but I can try to get a hi res still of both of them. And not have anyone modify it at all just a good still of both of them performing. I am sure that will work if I release all right to wiki for that work?
And the reason for the change is a more professional picture to go with his account, same thing for YoLandi, her picture makes her look like a 14 year old kid. It doesnt really fit the types of things she is involved in.
I saw a admin locked the account, but none of my things was undone but the birth year, which I can understand. But how come the page was locked up?
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 22:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I dont feel as if everyone is against me fixing the page, and for awhile i did not understand how wiki wanted things, but every edit I have been doing has been in the best intrest of fixing the page. I search for REFS and if they are not good enough I understand that too, but just to lock the page because someone doesnt like my edits? I think thats just immature. Nothing I have done has damaged the page. In fact I personally think I have improved it. Wiki only had one of her five movies listed. As far as the links to individual songs The only ones I put was the ones for the songs that someone listed individually. The other albums should not have had their REFs removed, they was legit and took you straight to the mentioned album, without just straight promoting the group, which I know is frowned upon on wiki. I am only trying to list the accomplishments of the band and more to the point to the individual members.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 17:28, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
That is true a good faith edit dosent mean a good edit. After studying other wiki pages I can kinda see how it needs to be done. Im working on reliable sources for some of the info. I appreciate all the encouragement and those of you guys trying to make sure the page is correct.
I have another pic I would like to submit for Yolandi's pic.
Found here.
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/19/44/03/05/yo-lan10.jpg
I dont see any issues with it. I searched the internet and cant find anyone that has the same picture. So I assume I can at least try?
Let me know on my page if you see a problem with it. :)
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 20:28, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I will try to find one that is a sharp image then. :)
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 23:49, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I suppose I will just have to make a video of me making a picture from a video I shot, that way no one can say its not my own. Copnsider this, when you google image most pictures of someone famous, you will find some simuliar pictures, that doesnt mean that they are the exact picture that staff thinks is copy written. Its all a matter of judgement, and from what I have seen, you and one a couple other admins on wiki have any sense of good judement at all.
Personally I think there are way to many Admins on a power trip, I wonder how much wiki pays them for being a admin..... Nothing? Yea, power trippin'.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 17:42, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
I changed the info box phot with one I took from another video that I made. I challenge anyone to find it on the internet. I made a video of me making the picture. So I know I hold the rights to the picture. I release those rights to Wikipedia for the purpose of using it as a discriptive picture of Yo-Landi Visser.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 19:24, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Well this one I took myself and I can prove it by walking out my front door and taking another picture of my neighborhood, but as usual wiki wont let me upload it.
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/19/44/03/05/da_mas10.jpg
So Im looking for other pictures I took of her.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 23:49, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
I have reverted back - again - because the fundamental issues with the previous edits have not been addressed:
Please discuss here, rather than reverting constantly. As per BLP guidelines adding unsourced material is considered disruptive behaviour. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 10:21, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Let's ignore the birth date then. Du Toit has a life in music before Die Antwoord even if it is not super notable. I'm sure you are well aware that Ninja's page is Watkin Tudor Jones. Should I go ahead and change that to Ninja (rapper)? Not even Ninja or Yolandi ever discuss "ZEFrecordz". In the music world, this is called a vanity label. That means Interscope owns it and does the distribution. It's just got a pretty name to fit the theme of the group. What do you think? Also, please read my post on this talk page as I'm sure you would find it very interesting. Inoffensivenewusername ( talk) 03:40, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Yolandi Visser's real name is Anri du Toit. She, much like her musical partner Watkin Tudor Jones, has not legally changed her name. As it stands, the article begins with (and excuse my ignorance if this is hard to read):
Firstly, her name is Anri du Toit. Why this is in italics is beyond me. Furthermore, it should be where "YoLandi Visser [sic]" currently is at the very beginning. The tacky stylized bit seems arbitrary as she does not exclusively go by "¥O-LANDI VI$$ER". "Yolandi Visser" is her pseudonym. Multiple sources indicate that she was born in 1984, though the date is not confirmed. Therefore, it should say "(born 1984"). The next issue with this sentence is that her body of work to the public lies mainly in MUSIC, not FILM. She and Waddy made a few short films together and she was in Chappie as her own character (Yolandi), literally basing herself on her image in Die Antwoord. Therefore, Yolandi is a musician (or "female vocalist" if it should be put that way) before she is an actress... I also don't believe the follow-up sentence should be there regarding the short films as besides all but Umshini Wam (Harmony Korine's film), they are relatively unknown projects and fail to even meet guidelines for their own wiki pages, but I'd like to hear other opinions.
I have tried multiple times to fix this but my edits keep getting reverted. It does not take an expert Wikipedian to acknowledge the basics of wiki formatting. This is only the first paragraph of this messy article.
Someone please weigh in. Thank you. Inoffensivenewusername ( talk) 03:30, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
The name needs to stay the way it is, as far as the birth year.... I tried linking wiki admins to the post on her instagram that she says she was born in 1984 herself, but nothing got dont about it.22:00, 18 May 2017 (UTC) Gene Zef2 ( talk) GeneZEF
Please only add information if you have a reliable source to back it up. That especially goes for date of birth and place of birth, neither of which seem to have any reliable sources whatsoever. Visser is adopted - she feasibly could have been born anywhere in South Africa. Stellaseeker ( talk) 10:13, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
I can't believe the mess that has been made of Yo Landis page since I last saw it. What happened to all the info that was there. Much of it I contributed myself?
Was there some type of "borg" war here, did i miss it? Gene Zef2
It seems to me that this article is notable. As pointed out it survived an AfD, and Visser herself is a notable actress - Chappie brought her to worldwide attention, certainly attention outside South Africa. Sources and references could be improved certainly, but it's not a redirect - and certainly not one to be done twice after reversion without so much as a by-your-leave in the meantime. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 09:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. Thank you, Chaheel Riens. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 09:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
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I tried to mod the Acting career/Film section, I added REF's to all the info I tried to change. It was all verifiable info on the movies she has been in or done. What came back was a note from cluebot NG. I know for sure I did everything correctly. So is it like a automatic type thing I got caught in? Because Im not trying to take a hour again and set it all up, just to have it removed by a automatic program. Send me a provate note if you have input on this issue.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 22:19, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Ok never mind guys, I figured out how to add the verified information, and add REF's. so Im cool I think. Plus no one has chewed me out in a day or so.
But in the section....
Die Antwoord[edit source]
Die Antwoord is a rap/rave group consisting of Visser, Ninja (Watkin Tudor Jones) and DJ Hi-Tek (Justin de Nobrega).[4][5]
REF link "5" takse you to a Drake homophobilc slur link but there is zero mention of this in the topic. as you can plainly see. Or at least from what I see.
Here is the link......
5. Chris Payne (2015-03-03). "Drake Called Homophobic Slur by Die Antwoord". Billboard. Retrieved 2016-03-14.
And it takes you here...
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/6487654/drake-die-antwoord-homophobic-slur
So I can remove that and repair the entire section? -- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 04:04, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Centerone, if that was you that fixed that stylized Y in the yolandi name, thank you. I dont have that key that makes that letter.
Also I finally figured out how the links work so Im only trying to mod what I can back up with REFs and links to those Refs.
I also changed the picture if there is a problem with it let me know but I believe it would be considered fair usage since its everywhere. If not let me know.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 23:39, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
I Have read/watched quite a few interviews with Ninja/Yolandi and I have seen nothing about them being married. They typically play down any romantic relationship while proclaiming to be good parents together. The two of them with their daughter were on the cover of South Africa Rolling Stone. Their daughter was also in the video Enter the Ninja. Also within the past couple of days Yolandi was on the cover of South African FHM Magazine. This will be my first go at being an editor but I'll see what I can do to add to this article. I'll find some sources, etc. 24.7.139.94 ( talk) 01:01, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Yo-Landi and Ninja have never been married and even though they do have a child together they are not in a relationship and have not been since 2007. They are both great parents/friends but they are not together. talk
1) The photograph is overexposed. I guess that's because Yolandi is under bright stage lights while wearing shiny or light clothing, and she's pale and blonde. Still, it would be great if someone who knew their way around PhotoShop could fix it up.
2) In one of the video interviews, Jones mentions that he and Visser have a child together. Should this be mentioned? Dylan Flaherty ( talk) 05:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Found a brief article on a reputable news site which confirms her real name is Anri Du Toit. http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/band-have-the-answer-to-secret-of-success-1.1233050?ot=inmsa.ArticlePrintPageLayout.ot Stellaseeker ( talk) 17:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Respectfully to those who have worked on this article, this article is barely about Yolandi. I'd like to help improve it if someone would like to collaborate on it with me. Unirider ( talk) 01:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 17:17, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
On the 'Watkin Tudor jones' page at the bottom, it says that they are both vegetarians, based on a 2012 interview yet this article says they are both Vegans. Which is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.30.69 ( talk) 11:16, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
They are vegetarians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 09:26, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Per internet movie database Born: March 3, 1984 in Port Alfred, Eastern Cape, South Africa Bobmodikiw ( talk) 04:49, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
She changed her birthday date on VK from March 1984 to December 1982. No idea if any of the two is correct. http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/yolandi-visser.html claims the first one is.
Any insights? -- KAMiKAZOW ( talk) 17:38, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
I totally get that, its ok. Well what can I do to get the birth year added? Because I know it is 1984, but finding proof of the birth year online is hard as fudge. Whats my best option here fellows.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 15:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I do have videos somewhere that I'm sure she says her birthday is 1984, if I find those and upload them, can I use that as a ref link for her birthday? If the answer is yes I will look for them today, I would really like to get the birthday corrected.
As some of you may know on the internet its every thing from march 3 1982 - march 3 1984 - December 1 1984. I just want to make sure the correct one gets on there and I know that takes a REF link.
As far as them just making a specific video to correct all the issues on wiki though I dont see them doing that. :( It would be nice, but I'm stuck with what I have to work with.-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 17:42, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
^^You must not been able to read the first sentence I posted? I do appreciate all you other comments though, they seemed very mature.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 22:24, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Some people told me I needed verification of Yo landi's Birthday. I found several links to her actual birthday. Not sure if this is enough to get her birthday put back on her profile CORRECTED not March 3rd. I already tried to mod it a few times only to have it reverted.
http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/yolandi-visser.html
http://omygsh.com/post/249-hot-celebs-with-december-b-days/1?category=TRENDY
And the following video was shot in Hawaii on December 1st 2015. In it you can hear the crowd singing happy birthday to her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1rEvum3Jqk
But if you dont want to take my word for it. Please take the word of the person this article is about.
https://www.instagram.com/p/zxqHxNQ8Lj/?taken-by=prawn_star&hl=en
She even states on her OWN instagram account her birthday is December 1st 1984.
Her Birthday is December 1st 1984 http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/yolandi-visser.html That is the correct year, 1984. -- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 00:29, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
We should not used the stylized Vi$$er in the body of the article. - Xcuref1endx ( talk) 02:56, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
She prefers to be called Yolandi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 09:26, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
I think where it is stylized in the biography section where it says it is stylized should be the only place it is stylized, otherwise I think it should just say "Visser" -- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 00:31, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
An editor is turning the career section into a filmography and discography. Neither of those are necessary since the content is very limited, it could just be listed and does not need to include the cast of the film. - Xcuref1endx ( talk) 05:53, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
After you see the picture can you please stop messing with my edits? I really do know Anri du Toit and I really am trying to fix her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 09:12, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
I will read it before I try to do anything else.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 20:42, 13 March 2016
Greetings, So Die Antwoord Staff came in, tried to make a bunch of changes, some of which were reverted, but then he was blocked because of his username and wikipedia policy. He came back I believe as Gene ZEF. He's making changes now, a lot of them, but he's getting better at what he's doing.. but he still wiped out a number of references. One problem is the general unreliable information out there about Yolandi and Ninja due to their desire to create an atmosphere around themselves artistically. As an example, we have an article that has a birthdate in it, however, other articles say other things, and Yolandi / Anri tells Gene ZEF something different entirely. How do we make sure the information is accurate and not OR when minor tweaks are made by Gene ZEF on their behalf? Things like getting a better photo direct from the source contributed to wikimedia, or fixing simple things like a birthdate I can accept as good things. Centerone ( talk) 02:48, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
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SO here is what we did. Since you guys will not let us edit her page we went right around you and built a fan website and are starting to post the correct information. Have a look. http://dieantwoord.forumotion.com/ Now we fought and fought with you people over "Waddy's /info/en/?search=Watkin_Tudor_Jones Wiki page" and still the page is not correct. We hope that in the future a site such as yours (which is suppose to be full of correct information) Will let the "ACTUAL" people a wiki page is about, modify it to show corrected information.
Now imagine how she felt when none of her fans wished her a "Happy Birthday" on her "ACTUAL" birthday? Now we can imagine that you people feel some type of way about all this.... But this place suck's horse arse. But "Die Antwoord World wide Fans" thinks you are unorganized, over moderated, your staff is under educated, your site is to hard to navigate, you have mods that have no candor or sense of human civility.
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I personally know Anri du Toit (Yo-Landi Visser) She would like me to fix this page once and for all.
You guys are the masters here. I tried to repair the topic and couldnt do it. So I need a mentor(s) to help me correct the entire page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF ( talk • contribs) 02:05, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Ok I fugured out how the links work now. I tried to upload and fix the film acting part of her profile today I had links and everything so that they worked when you clicked on them. But Cluebot NG removed them, I sent a report hopefully they let it go thru. I know i did it right because all the links work. ;)--
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"Not a former partner if the band hasn't broken up yet. They may be ex-bf/gf but that is not the same thing. Reference may be good elsewhere" The context here is romantic partner, not band partner. That's why the sentence is "Visser's former partner and current band mate" The context is:
Chaheel Riens ( talk) 21:58, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
I tried changing it with a pic I thought would be considered to be a "fair usage" picture, it was reverted. I was successful in using a still frmae for the Watkin Jones account. I am assuming that if I can get a good still picture of YoLandi off a video I made, I can use that on this account too? and we can get rid of that picture currently in the infobox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene Zef2 ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Well the picture was taken from a still shot of a video I made at one concert, however Im not a photo editing typed of person so I asked a friend to make it black and white. I still dont see any issue with that, but I can try to get a hi res still of both of them. And not have anyone modify it at all just a good still of both of them performing. I am sure that will work if I release all right to wiki for that work?
And the reason for the change is a more professional picture to go with his account, same thing for YoLandi, her picture makes her look like a 14 year old kid. It doesnt really fit the types of things she is involved in.
I saw a admin locked the account, but none of my things was undone but the birth year, which I can understand. But how come the page was locked up?
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 22:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I dont feel as if everyone is against me fixing the page, and for awhile i did not understand how wiki wanted things, but every edit I have been doing has been in the best intrest of fixing the page. I search for REFS and if they are not good enough I understand that too, but just to lock the page because someone doesnt like my edits? I think thats just immature. Nothing I have done has damaged the page. In fact I personally think I have improved it. Wiki only had one of her five movies listed. As far as the links to individual songs The only ones I put was the ones for the songs that someone listed individually. The other albums should not have had their REFs removed, they was legit and took you straight to the mentioned album, without just straight promoting the group, which I know is frowned upon on wiki. I am only trying to list the accomplishments of the band and more to the point to the individual members.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 17:28, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
That is true a good faith edit dosent mean a good edit. After studying other wiki pages I can kinda see how it needs to be done. Im working on reliable sources for some of the info. I appreciate all the encouragement and those of you guys trying to make sure the page is correct.
I have another pic I would like to submit for Yolandi's pic.
Found here.
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/19/44/03/05/yo-lan10.jpg
I dont see any issues with it. I searched the internet and cant find anyone that has the same picture. So I assume I can at least try?
Let me know on my page if you see a problem with it. :)
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 20:28, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I will try to find one that is a sharp image then. :)
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 23:49, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I suppose I will just have to make a video of me making a picture from a video I shot, that way no one can say its not my own. Copnsider this, when you google image most pictures of someone famous, you will find some simuliar pictures, that doesnt mean that they are the exact picture that staff thinks is copy written. Its all a matter of judgement, and from what I have seen, you and one a couple other admins on wiki have any sense of good judement at all.
Personally I think there are way to many Admins on a power trip, I wonder how much wiki pays them for being a admin..... Nothing? Yea, power trippin'.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 17:42, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
I changed the info box phot with one I took from another video that I made. I challenge anyone to find it on the internet. I made a video of me making the picture. So I know I hold the rights to the picture. I release those rights to Wikipedia for the purpose of using it as a discriptive picture of Yo-Landi Visser.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 19:24, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Well this one I took myself and I can prove it by walking out my front door and taking another picture of my neighborhood, but as usual wiki wont let me upload it.
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/19/44/03/05/da_mas10.jpg
So Im looking for other pictures I took of her.
-- Gene Zef2 ( talk) 23:49, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
I have reverted back - again - because the fundamental issues with the previous edits have not been addressed:
Please discuss here, rather than reverting constantly. As per BLP guidelines adding unsourced material is considered disruptive behaviour. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 10:21, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Let's ignore the birth date then. Du Toit has a life in music before Die Antwoord even if it is not super notable. I'm sure you are well aware that Ninja's page is Watkin Tudor Jones. Should I go ahead and change that to Ninja (rapper)? Not even Ninja or Yolandi ever discuss "ZEFrecordz". In the music world, this is called a vanity label. That means Interscope owns it and does the distribution. It's just got a pretty name to fit the theme of the group. What do you think? Also, please read my post on this talk page as I'm sure you would find it very interesting. Inoffensivenewusername ( talk) 03:40, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Yolandi Visser's real name is Anri du Toit. She, much like her musical partner Watkin Tudor Jones, has not legally changed her name. As it stands, the article begins with (and excuse my ignorance if this is hard to read):
Firstly, her name is Anri du Toit. Why this is in italics is beyond me. Furthermore, it should be where "YoLandi Visser [sic]" currently is at the very beginning. The tacky stylized bit seems arbitrary as she does not exclusively go by "¥O-LANDI VI$$ER". "Yolandi Visser" is her pseudonym. Multiple sources indicate that she was born in 1984, though the date is not confirmed. Therefore, it should say "(born 1984"). The next issue with this sentence is that her body of work to the public lies mainly in MUSIC, not FILM. She and Waddy made a few short films together and she was in Chappie as her own character (Yolandi), literally basing herself on her image in Die Antwoord. Therefore, Yolandi is a musician (or "female vocalist" if it should be put that way) before she is an actress... I also don't believe the follow-up sentence should be there regarding the short films as besides all but Umshini Wam (Harmony Korine's film), they are relatively unknown projects and fail to even meet guidelines for their own wiki pages, but I'd like to hear other opinions.
I have tried multiple times to fix this but my edits keep getting reverted. It does not take an expert Wikipedian to acknowledge the basics of wiki formatting. This is only the first paragraph of this messy article.
Someone please weigh in. Thank you. Inoffensivenewusername ( talk) 03:30, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
The name needs to stay the way it is, as far as the birth year.... I tried linking wiki admins to the post on her instagram that she says she was born in 1984 herself, but nothing got dont about it.22:00, 18 May 2017 (UTC) Gene Zef2 ( talk) GeneZEF
Please only add information if you have a reliable source to back it up. That especially goes for date of birth and place of birth, neither of which seem to have any reliable sources whatsoever. Visser is adopted - she feasibly could have been born anywhere in South Africa. Stellaseeker ( talk) 10:13, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
I can't believe the mess that has been made of Yo Landis page since I last saw it. What happened to all the info that was there. Much of it I contributed myself?
Was there some type of "borg" war here, did i miss it? Gene Zef2
It seems to me that this article is notable. As pointed out it survived an AfD, and Visser herself is a notable actress - Chappie brought her to worldwide attention, certainly attention outside South Africa. Sources and references could be improved certainly, but it's not a redirect - and certainly not one to be done twice after reversion without so much as a by-your-leave in the meantime. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 09:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. Thank you, Chaheel Riens. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 09:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)