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Clarisyren: thank you for your thoughts, but I don't agree. I know you're new, but the procedure is Editor1 proposes a change boldly (you); Editor2 evaluates it and reverts if need be - this was a partial revert, in fact (me); then we discuss - it's wrong (edit-warring) for you to have reverted a second time, and indeed very boldly to have gone ahead and added more of the same. What is more, you (aggressively?) removed cited material, for which you would get a formal warning on your talk page if this wasn't your first editing outing; and you wrongly asserted that the existing material was salesy, it isn't in the slightest. I have reverted your deletion, but your repeatedly-added material needs now to be discussed.
The futon mat seems to be one of the less common types. That does not mean it cannot be mentioned, but it does certainly mean it should not have more coverage than any other type, which you've now given it. That is called WP:UNDUE coverage. I also appreciate that you are not an employee and are not directly involved in selling yoga mats, I will take that in good faith. However, the material is much too detailed for the context; if it were the number 1 kind of mat in use across the western world, it might perhaps be an appropriate level of detail, though even then the discussion of biodegradability and chemicals seems to be frankly off-topic. The new citations are in principle welcome but I haven't evaluated them yet. However given the unbalanced amount of coverage of this minor subtopic, we should cut the paragraph down substantially. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 13:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
To Chiswick chap: Why did you completely remove a paragraph about a mat style not mentioned or write it off as "salesy" (despite a link being to a yoga studio who mostly does teaching and doesn't ship the mats they sell internationally)? A lot of the content on this page no doubt seems salesy. I have added more references. Wikipedias protocol is: "When you find a passage in an article that is biased, inaccurate, or unsourced the best practice is to improve it if you can rather than deleting salvageable text. " This article made it seem as though there was a smooth transition from tiger and deers skins to PVC mats, which no doubt serves those who sell PVC mats, but is should be clear that cotton and futon style mats (resembling those used in tai chi practice) have been used before the rubber or plastic mats.
This is not cited material, as far as I can tell: "Some companies print custom images on mats, especially the more expensive ones. " The link is to a specific manufacturer, who makes custom prints on yoga mats. However, they do not state that they are usually more expensive, and they seem to be in the middle price range when compared to the mats mentioned in the customer tests. So shouldn't it be deleted?
I might just be too suspicious, but I can't help but get a gut feeling that you are associated with the Gaiam brand or similar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarisyren ( talk • contribs) 13:30, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Maybe health and environmental issues should have it's own parahraph? Clarisyren ( talk) 13:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Is there any confirmation that alignment mats actually help with alignment? Or is it possible that correct alignment/placement of body parts is individual and depends on body size? Clarisyren ( talk) 13:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Noted. I don't think any further action is needed here, despite the profusion of words expended. Brevity is a valued quality on talk pages, as in articles; many editors write "tl;dr" when confronted with a screed of text. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 15:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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Clarisyren: thank you for your thoughts, but I don't agree. I know you're new, but the procedure is Editor1 proposes a change boldly (you); Editor2 evaluates it and reverts if need be - this was a partial revert, in fact (me); then we discuss - it's wrong (edit-warring) for you to have reverted a second time, and indeed very boldly to have gone ahead and added more of the same. What is more, you (aggressively?) removed cited material, for which you would get a formal warning on your talk page if this wasn't your first editing outing; and you wrongly asserted that the existing material was salesy, it isn't in the slightest. I have reverted your deletion, but your repeatedly-added material needs now to be discussed.
The futon mat seems to be one of the less common types. That does not mean it cannot be mentioned, but it does certainly mean it should not have more coverage than any other type, which you've now given it. That is called WP:UNDUE coverage. I also appreciate that you are not an employee and are not directly involved in selling yoga mats, I will take that in good faith. However, the material is much too detailed for the context; if it were the number 1 kind of mat in use across the western world, it might perhaps be an appropriate level of detail, though even then the discussion of biodegradability and chemicals seems to be frankly off-topic. The new citations are in principle welcome but I haven't evaluated them yet. However given the unbalanced amount of coverage of this minor subtopic, we should cut the paragraph down substantially. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 13:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
To Chiswick chap: Why did you completely remove a paragraph about a mat style not mentioned or write it off as "salesy" (despite a link being to a yoga studio who mostly does teaching and doesn't ship the mats they sell internationally)? A lot of the content on this page no doubt seems salesy. I have added more references. Wikipedias protocol is: "When you find a passage in an article that is biased, inaccurate, or unsourced the best practice is to improve it if you can rather than deleting salvageable text. " This article made it seem as though there was a smooth transition from tiger and deers skins to PVC mats, which no doubt serves those who sell PVC mats, but is should be clear that cotton and futon style mats (resembling those used in tai chi practice) have been used before the rubber or plastic mats.
This is not cited material, as far as I can tell: "Some companies print custom images on mats, especially the more expensive ones. " The link is to a specific manufacturer, who makes custom prints on yoga mats. However, they do not state that they are usually more expensive, and they seem to be in the middle price range when compared to the mats mentioned in the customer tests. So shouldn't it be deleted?
I might just be too suspicious, but I can't help but get a gut feeling that you are associated with the Gaiam brand or similar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarisyren ( talk • contribs) 13:30, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Maybe health and environmental issues should have it's own parahraph? Clarisyren ( talk) 13:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Is there any confirmation that alignment mats actually help with alignment? Or is it possible that correct alignment/placement of body parts is individual and depends on body size? Clarisyren ( talk) 13:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Noted. I don't think any further action is needed here, despite the profusion of words expended. Brevity is a valued quality on talk pages, as in articles; many editors write "tl;dr" when confronted with a screed of text. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 15:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)