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With rare exceptions, such as world-reknown scholars, talmudists, poskim, or rebbes, we do not use honorifics in articles. No article begins "Mr." or "Mrs." even though most sources usually include those honorifics. -- Avi ( talk) 01:38, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Please review our policies on civility and assuming good faith. Your history of canvassing others and your personal dislike of me (I still have all of the e-mails you sent me) must take a back seat to upholding wikipedia policies and guidelines. Unfortunately for what I believe you are trying to represent, one cannot selectively apply a policy where one likes it and not in other places.
I direct you to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Honorific prefixes, in which it clearly states that honorifics should, in general, not be used in the title lines. The exceptions include people such as Mother Theresa who is known primarily by her honorific.
As such, I am going to remove it from this (and the Shafran) article's lede.
I have raised the issue here Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)#Religious Honorific prefixes - Rabbi and I invite you to comment there. Thank you. -- Avi ( talk) 16:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Let me make sure that I understand you. I show you how Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) specifically discusses honorifics in the lede, I make the article comply with wikipedia policy, and you feel that is disruption? So upholding wikipedia policy is considered "stooping"? What is your specific issue. -- Avi ( talk) 21:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Have re-worded lead per cited policy and articles on similarly placed rabbis. Re the fire it doesn't seem relevant, as not being arson it can't have had anything to do with Weiss, hence doesn't seem necessary in his bio. Re the quotes, the one labled disputed can go on that ground, and the other can be incorporated into main article, per convetion (tho, no, i can't find guidelines about quote sections.-- Bsnowball ( talk) 13:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
There has been some thoughts about removing this section. Would interested parties pleas explain why, or why not, this should be removed? Thanks. -- Avi ( talk) 17:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
He becomes labled as an anti-zionist and not an antisemite? YOu jews are real crafty with your rhetoric and censorship. —Preceding
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What is the majority branch? Is there a divide within Neturei Karta? I do not find any explanation on this in the article, and there is no source for the claim. -- Chricho ∀ ( talk) 12:19, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
I removed the sentence "Neturei Karta's views are rejected by the majority of Orthodox Jews worldwide." because it falsely suggests that the primarily anti-zionistic view ist rejected. But the (in the attached reference) mentioned group Satmar is also anti-zionistic and surely not standing for all Orthodox Jews worldwide. Furthermore they just expressed their protest against the visit of the "International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust" through the group Neturei Karta, which is also the only information that could be found in that reference. Greetings Wolf170278 ( talk) 09:41, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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With rare exceptions, such as world-reknown scholars, talmudists, poskim, or rebbes, we do not use honorifics in articles. No article begins "Mr." or "Mrs." even though most sources usually include those honorifics. -- Avi ( talk) 01:38, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Please review our policies on civility and assuming good faith. Your history of canvassing others and your personal dislike of me (I still have all of the e-mails you sent me) must take a back seat to upholding wikipedia policies and guidelines. Unfortunately for what I believe you are trying to represent, one cannot selectively apply a policy where one likes it and not in other places.
I direct you to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Honorific prefixes, in which it clearly states that honorifics should, in general, not be used in the title lines. The exceptions include people such as Mother Theresa who is known primarily by her honorific.
As such, I am going to remove it from this (and the Shafran) article's lede.
I have raised the issue here Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)#Religious Honorific prefixes - Rabbi and I invite you to comment there. Thank you. -- Avi ( talk) 16:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Let me make sure that I understand you. I show you how Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) specifically discusses honorifics in the lede, I make the article comply with wikipedia policy, and you feel that is disruption? So upholding wikipedia policy is considered "stooping"? What is your specific issue. -- Avi ( talk) 21:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Have re-worded lead per cited policy and articles on similarly placed rabbis. Re the fire it doesn't seem relevant, as not being arson it can't have had anything to do with Weiss, hence doesn't seem necessary in his bio. Re the quotes, the one labled disputed can go on that ground, and the other can be incorporated into main article, per convetion (tho, no, i can't find guidelines about quote sections.-- Bsnowball ( talk) 13:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
There has been some thoughts about removing this section. Would interested parties pleas explain why, or why not, this should be removed? Thanks. -- Avi ( talk) 17:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
He becomes labled as an anti-zionist and not an antisemite? YOu jews are real crafty with your rhetoric and censorship. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
151.202.86.50 (
talk)
23:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
What is the majority branch? Is there a divide within Neturei Karta? I do not find any explanation on this in the article, and there is no source for the claim. -- Chricho ∀ ( talk) 12:19, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
I removed the sentence "Neturei Karta's views are rejected by the majority of Orthodox Jews worldwide." because it falsely suggests that the primarily anti-zionistic view ist rejected. But the (in the attached reference) mentioned group Satmar is also anti-zionistic and surely not standing for all Orthodox Jews worldwide. Furthermore they just expressed their protest against the visit of the "International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust" through the group Neturei Karta, which is also the only information that could be found in that reference. Greetings Wolf170278 ( talk) 09:41, 21 November 2023 (UTC)