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The article needs to be copy-edited, and the coding brought into line with the MoS (use of punctuation, italics, etc.). I've made a start, and I'll try to get back to do more. -- Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης) 11:49, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
A dodgy cult if I every saw one. The article is much too uncritical. m.e. 08:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
This article seriously lacks sources, and needs a lot of rewriting according to wiki policy. It appears that it's been neglected for a long time. I hope someone can get to it soon. Mcconn ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 13:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Most disturbing part of this 'religion' is the blind amalgamation of religions such as Islam. One of the 5 'xienrens' is Mohammad. I almost fell off my chair when I first heard it at one of these religious talks. It is doubtful that the founders of this 'religion' possessed thorough understanding of Islam when it was incorporated into Ikuantao. It seems to me, a newcomer to the religion, that one the leaders' main objectives was to rope in as many followers as possible to expand membership of the religion. However, the purpose of expansion is unclear and it is believed to depend on the leader of each 'group'. This article should gather more dissenting views to offer a more balanced perspective of Ikuantao. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.34.203.137 ( talk) 01:53, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
First of all, can anyone prove to me that "Sung Nien University" actually exists? It does not appear on the list of universities and colleges recognized by Taiwan's government, and I have not been able to locate a website for it.
The population statistics are clearly inflated, though I would not be able to suggest accurate sources. I would rank Taiwan's religions like this: the Chinese folk religion is obviously largest (90+ % depending on what we mean) , followed by "pure" forms of Buddhism (less than 10 %), then Christianity (at about 5 % of the population). Churches are visible everywhere, I-Kuan Tao halls are few. A figure of 2 million (!) suggests that one in ten people here ought to be adherents. In fact is is more like one out of several hundred, i.e. less than 1 %.
I remain confused by the sect's divisions, and wish that some NEUTRAL person could give them all a rundown. --Dawud —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.167.174.163 ( talk) 09:08, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Sun Su Zhen (孫素真), and Zhang Tian Ran had two sons. -- 光明天君 ( talk) 12:11, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Sun Su Zhen (孫素真), is not the I-Kuan Tao 18th matriarch. She is not a teacher,she is only the third wife of Zhang Tian Ran. -- 光明天君 ( talk) 12:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Curious, if there is any connection with Japanese Tendo new religion (that, Tendo acknowledges that it originated from Taiwan in 1963). Tendo also passes on "three treasures": meaningless recital to open the gate to the soul, special way of holding two hands together, and secret location of the place where the soul enters the body. Their big shtick (for the advanced adepts), is that they pray/chant, and draw squiggles on sand boxes, and then try to see if there is any sort of meaning in what was written. Lower level adepts, the ones that received the three treasures, are promised to be saved from the worldly disasters, and break the cycle of karmic rebirth, their soul eventually being able to end up in true heaven.
Japanese wikipedia page is here: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%A9%E9%81%93_%28%E6%96%B0%E5%AE%97%E6%95%99%29
I ask Jayaguru-Shishya to explain the logic behind his most recent edits to the article, by the mean of which he has deleted all the improvements that I recently made. These include: the addition of the religion summary template, the addition of new quality sources based on which I improved the history section clarifying the 19th century origin of the sect and the most recent developments in the PRC, the use of better translations such as "Eternal Venerable Mother" (also matching with the source used) instead of "Unborn Ancient Mother" for Wusheng laomu. When he first reverted my edits, he accused me of "break-up up of language syntax, impoverished grammar, WP:OVERLINK violations, flow of the text, removal of templates, grammar errors, modifification of direct quotations". Nothing of this can be found in my edits.-- Aethelwolf Emsworth ( talk) 12:10, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Its official college calls I-Kuan Tao College( 一貫道天皇學院), so we should name the article as I-Kuan Tao but not Yiguandao.-- S099001 ( talk) 12:56, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Yiguandao is a syncretic religion of all Chinese mainstream religions from the Qing but this has been removed from the wiki. This is a big problem! Jianghaiyang ( talk) 13:59, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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The article needs to be copy-edited, and the coding brought into line with the MoS (use of punctuation, italics, etc.). I've made a start, and I'll try to get back to do more. -- Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης) 11:49, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
A dodgy cult if I every saw one. The article is much too uncritical. m.e. 08:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
This article seriously lacks sources, and needs a lot of rewriting according to wiki policy. It appears that it's been neglected for a long time. I hope someone can get to it soon. Mcconn ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 13:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Most disturbing part of this 'religion' is the blind amalgamation of religions such as Islam. One of the 5 'xienrens' is Mohammad. I almost fell off my chair when I first heard it at one of these religious talks. It is doubtful that the founders of this 'religion' possessed thorough understanding of Islam when it was incorporated into Ikuantao. It seems to me, a newcomer to the religion, that one the leaders' main objectives was to rope in as many followers as possible to expand membership of the religion. However, the purpose of expansion is unclear and it is believed to depend on the leader of each 'group'. This article should gather more dissenting views to offer a more balanced perspective of Ikuantao. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.34.203.137 ( talk) 01:53, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
First of all, can anyone prove to me that "Sung Nien University" actually exists? It does not appear on the list of universities and colleges recognized by Taiwan's government, and I have not been able to locate a website for it.
The population statistics are clearly inflated, though I would not be able to suggest accurate sources. I would rank Taiwan's religions like this: the Chinese folk religion is obviously largest (90+ % depending on what we mean) , followed by "pure" forms of Buddhism (less than 10 %), then Christianity (at about 5 % of the population). Churches are visible everywhere, I-Kuan Tao halls are few. A figure of 2 million (!) suggests that one in ten people here ought to be adherents. In fact is is more like one out of several hundred, i.e. less than 1 %.
I remain confused by the sect's divisions, and wish that some NEUTRAL person could give them all a rundown. --Dawud —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.167.174.163 ( talk) 09:08, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Sun Su Zhen (孫素真), and Zhang Tian Ran had two sons. -- 光明天君 ( talk) 12:11, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Sun Su Zhen (孫素真), is not the I-Kuan Tao 18th matriarch. She is not a teacher,she is only the third wife of Zhang Tian Ran. -- 光明天君 ( talk) 12:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Curious, if there is any connection with Japanese Tendo new religion (that, Tendo acknowledges that it originated from Taiwan in 1963). Tendo also passes on "three treasures": meaningless recital to open the gate to the soul, special way of holding two hands together, and secret location of the place where the soul enters the body. Their big shtick (for the advanced adepts), is that they pray/chant, and draw squiggles on sand boxes, and then try to see if there is any sort of meaning in what was written. Lower level adepts, the ones that received the three treasures, are promised to be saved from the worldly disasters, and break the cycle of karmic rebirth, their soul eventually being able to end up in true heaven.
Japanese wikipedia page is here: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%A9%E9%81%93_%28%E6%96%B0%E5%AE%97%E6%95%99%29
I ask Jayaguru-Shishya to explain the logic behind his most recent edits to the article, by the mean of which he has deleted all the improvements that I recently made. These include: the addition of the religion summary template, the addition of new quality sources based on which I improved the history section clarifying the 19th century origin of the sect and the most recent developments in the PRC, the use of better translations such as "Eternal Venerable Mother" (also matching with the source used) instead of "Unborn Ancient Mother" for Wusheng laomu. When he first reverted my edits, he accused me of "break-up up of language syntax, impoverished grammar, WP:OVERLINK violations, flow of the text, removal of templates, grammar errors, modifification of direct quotations". Nothing of this can be found in my edits.-- Aethelwolf Emsworth ( talk) 12:10, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Its official college calls I-Kuan Tao College( 一貫道天皇學院), so we should name the article as I-Kuan Tao but not Yiguandao.-- S099001 ( talk) 12:56, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Yiguandao is a syncretic religion of all Chinese mainstream religions from the Qing but this has been removed from the wiki. This is a big problem! Jianghaiyang ( talk) 13:59, 6 October 2021 (UTC)