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For User:Jylaan - take a look at Wikipedia:External links guideline, particularly on what to avoid. This includes:
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I think "My Capricorn Coast" probably avoids what not to have in an ext. link -- but it is more about Capricorn Coast (which includes Emu Park, Byfield etc.) and not just Yeppoon. I will leave it for now as I don't have specific issues with it for now. But I would probably support editors who agree with me that it is not appropriate.-- ZayZayEM ( talk) 12:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
But please remember what wikipedia is. It's an encyclopedia. It's a tertiary reference designed to accurately and responsibly inform and educate readers. It is not a webdirectory. Wikipedia page WP:NOT may help explain this.
As to your question as to whether if Yeppoon.info wasn't a blog... I'm not sure how to answer. If it wasn't a blog it wouldn't be the same website. It wasn't excluded for being a blog. It was excluded for beinga personal weblog by a non-notable person unrelated to the topic. I'd also say it would count as advertising (the blog promotes your web-design business - bring up uneccessary conflict of interest issues into the picture as well).
External links should really be avoided. Available information should be put onto wikipedia (and then referenced). We shouldn't really be needing users to go to external websites to get the information they need.-- ZayZayEM ( talk) 05:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you understand what I mean by "personal" blog. I do not mean it is livejournal style "this is what I did". It is run by you as a personal individual (my weblog contains mostly science/news, but its still personal). It is a non-notable website not directly affiliated with the topic at hand. The current story is about a camping trip you and some friends went on with some pretty pictures. Its more than just raw information. There isn't anything wrong with that, it's just not quite appropriate for an encyclopedia.
Some personal weblogs may written by notable individuals or cover notable events and be acceptable sources. No information in your weblog is not available from other more appropriate sources.
Note: There is no other active part of your website apart from the blog. The forums are inactive.
Note2: Briter is still promoted on your website About
Note3 While you do have some webdesign skills, take a look at the My Capricorn Coast page [1]. It is much more well designed to be an actual information website. Doesn't look like a blog at all. (I don't even think he is using a standardised template). It has well seperated sections providing easily navigatable catalogued information and pictures Keppel Bay Islands.
Take a look through some of the policy pages I've directed you too. They will explain a bit more about what wikipedia is and is not. If you have specific questions ask me, visit the village pump, or sign up for a mentoring program.-- ZayZayEM ( talk) 06:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeppoon is a really great city with lots of People though this poor little Town where i just happen to live seems like a really tiny people place,Though in this town if u have been there.We have about more than 1000 people living with our cute little town we now have YSC(Yeppoon Shopping Center)(Yeppoon Central)The name they named it was quite silly!yes i can admit.Though this little place is Georges we have lots of beautiful beaches and creeks Like our beach's Main Beach,Lamamour,Farmbrough Beach and many others like Stanage Bay Also we have found a beach(bay)Caria Bay!!!!! white sand great clear water(most of the time the shore does get up and leaves do get swept in)though our creeks we have a lot to name some they have in Homes(out the back or on the farm)and our most loved creeks are Water Park,Ros Creek,Stonie Creek and lots more but here are the warnings you will not love about our beach's or creeks!
Warnings 4 Creeks And Beach:
Maine Beach(Sharks) Farmbrough Beach(Sharks) Lamamour(Sharks can be large or tiny crocks) Stonie Creek(Stone Fish but there have BEEN MYSTICAL CREATURES?) Ros Creek(Sharks and crocks everything u could amagine) Pools our pools r well nothing but GREAT go to Resort YEPPOON —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.99.84 ( talk) 11:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Over the past week I've been building the Capricorn Coast page into something more than a few lines. I've done a hell of a lot of research and I've lived here most of my life, so have the benefit of local knowledge when it comes to know what to search for.
I found the Yeppoon page and it was light on content and read a lot like a tourist brochure (no offence anyone) so I've added a fair bit of info, largely culled from the capcoast page.
I do see 2 problems though. First, Yeppoon in an encyclopaedic sense, especially post LGA-reforms, is really just the area bounded by Ross Creek up to Barwells' Creek, and say west to Bondoola (roughly). Taranganba, Cooee Bay, and Bangalee are separate gazetted localities (even before LGA changes). Taking that thought process further, outlying areas like Rosslyn Bay, Emu Park, Byfield etc are irrelevant to talk about in detail on this page save to mention their proximity perhaps.
The problem with writing about Yeppoon is that it's not an isolated place where one can say, OK this is our history. To write the geography and history with enough detail to provide the full picture, one has to look at the greater area, eg Yeppoon was not the first place on the coast to be settled - It was one of the last. For say, a grade 6 student doing a local history project, they won't find out much at all just looking at Yeppoon's localised history. That's where the Capricorn Coast page comes in, and if anyone is wondering, that's why I've added extra links. If there is to be information on the region in Wikipedia, let's make it as comprehensive as possible.
If anyone wants to help contribute to the Capricorn Coast page, it would be really great. I've taken the liberty of inserting 'expand info boxes' where info that I know about, is needed. No doubt there are other things I don't know about so please, please, please contribute to the page.
XavierT3000 ( talk) 02:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
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For User:Jylaan - take a look at Wikipedia:External links guideline, particularly on what to avoid. This includes:
and
I think "My Capricorn Coast" probably avoids what not to have in an ext. link -- but it is more about Capricorn Coast (which includes Emu Park, Byfield etc.) and not just Yeppoon. I will leave it for now as I don't have specific issues with it for now. But I would probably support editors who agree with me that it is not appropriate.-- ZayZayEM ( talk) 12:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
But please remember what wikipedia is. It's an encyclopedia. It's a tertiary reference designed to accurately and responsibly inform and educate readers. It is not a webdirectory. Wikipedia page WP:NOT may help explain this.
As to your question as to whether if Yeppoon.info wasn't a blog... I'm not sure how to answer. If it wasn't a blog it wouldn't be the same website. It wasn't excluded for being a blog. It was excluded for beinga personal weblog by a non-notable person unrelated to the topic. I'd also say it would count as advertising (the blog promotes your web-design business - bring up uneccessary conflict of interest issues into the picture as well).
External links should really be avoided. Available information should be put onto wikipedia (and then referenced). We shouldn't really be needing users to go to external websites to get the information they need.-- ZayZayEM ( talk) 05:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you understand what I mean by "personal" blog. I do not mean it is livejournal style "this is what I did". It is run by you as a personal individual (my weblog contains mostly science/news, but its still personal). It is a non-notable website not directly affiliated with the topic at hand. The current story is about a camping trip you and some friends went on with some pretty pictures. Its more than just raw information. There isn't anything wrong with that, it's just not quite appropriate for an encyclopedia.
Some personal weblogs may written by notable individuals or cover notable events and be acceptable sources. No information in your weblog is not available from other more appropriate sources.
Note: There is no other active part of your website apart from the blog. The forums are inactive.
Note2: Briter is still promoted on your website About
Note3 While you do have some webdesign skills, take a look at the My Capricorn Coast page [1]. It is much more well designed to be an actual information website. Doesn't look like a blog at all. (I don't even think he is using a standardised template). It has well seperated sections providing easily navigatable catalogued information and pictures Keppel Bay Islands.
Take a look through some of the policy pages I've directed you too. They will explain a bit more about what wikipedia is and is not. If you have specific questions ask me, visit the village pump, or sign up for a mentoring program.-- ZayZayEM ( talk) 06:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeppoon is a really great city with lots of People though this poor little Town where i just happen to live seems like a really tiny people place,Though in this town if u have been there.We have about more than 1000 people living with our cute little town we now have YSC(Yeppoon Shopping Center)(Yeppoon Central)The name they named it was quite silly!yes i can admit.Though this little place is Georges we have lots of beautiful beaches and creeks Like our beach's Main Beach,Lamamour,Farmbrough Beach and many others like Stanage Bay Also we have found a beach(bay)Caria Bay!!!!! white sand great clear water(most of the time the shore does get up and leaves do get swept in)though our creeks we have a lot to name some they have in Homes(out the back or on the farm)and our most loved creeks are Water Park,Ros Creek,Stonie Creek and lots more but here are the warnings you will not love about our beach's or creeks!
Warnings 4 Creeks And Beach:
Maine Beach(Sharks) Farmbrough Beach(Sharks) Lamamour(Sharks can be large or tiny crocks) Stonie Creek(Stone Fish but there have BEEN MYSTICAL CREATURES?) Ros Creek(Sharks and crocks everything u could amagine) Pools our pools r well nothing but GREAT go to Resort YEPPOON —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.99.84 ( talk) 11:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Over the past week I've been building the Capricorn Coast page into something more than a few lines. I've done a hell of a lot of research and I've lived here most of my life, so have the benefit of local knowledge when it comes to know what to search for.
I found the Yeppoon page and it was light on content and read a lot like a tourist brochure (no offence anyone) so I've added a fair bit of info, largely culled from the capcoast page.
I do see 2 problems though. First, Yeppoon in an encyclopaedic sense, especially post LGA-reforms, is really just the area bounded by Ross Creek up to Barwells' Creek, and say west to Bondoola (roughly). Taranganba, Cooee Bay, and Bangalee are separate gazetted localities (even before LGA changes). Taking that thought process further, outlying areas like Rosslyn Bay, Emu Park, Byfield etc are irrelevant to talk about in detail on this page save to mention their proximity perhaps.
The problem with writing about Yeppoon is that it's not an isolated place where one can say, OK this is our history. To write the geography and history with enough detail to provide the full picture, one has to look at the greater area, eg Yeppoon was not the first place on the coast to be settled - It was one of the last. For say, a grade 6 student doing a local history project, they won't find out much at all just looking at Yeppoon's localised history. That's where the Capricorn Coast page comes in, and if anyone is wondering, that's why I've added extra links. If there is to be information on the region in Wikipedia, let's make it as comprehensive as possible.
If anyone wants to help contribute to the Capricorn Coast page, it would be really great. I've taken the liberty of inserting 'expand info boxes' where info that I know about, is needed. No doubt there are other things I don't know about so please, please, please contribute to the page.
XavierT3000 ( talk) 02:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)