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I'm personally very tired of all kind of nationalism on every page. It's an article, not a space for nationalists's cold war. I just qouted and edited Yılmaz's own wife Fatos Guney's interview and acknowledge about ethnical background information given by her. If you don't agree with it, it's still not your right to demolish other relaible sources. Talk in talk page of article. Stop vandalism and demolishing sources, referances acording to your personal, political idea. Zazas are Kurds, Kurds are Zazas, They are different etc. Whatever. His background information is not a political issue. The information is there. Read and translate. The statement includes that words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiyar9 ( talk • contribs) 14:57, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
The man himself said " I have kurdish background" . I dont understand why turks hate the word " kurd" so much ? why all this hatered? where all this hate come from my fellow turks ? it's amazing!
I'm not being rude but people, mind your own business. Yilmaz Guney is Kurdish simple as. Why are you arguing for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dersimli62 ( talk • contribs) 23:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
-To the person who keeps modifying this page in broken English: Yilmaz Guney was not simply "blamed by the Turkish police" to have killed a judge. He killed the judge in full view of many witnesses and was convicted in a court of law. This fact is absolutely undisputed in Turkey; and even the most sympathetic fans of Guney accept that he was a convicted murderer and his guilt was established beyond any uncertainty or doubt.
Wikipedia readers deserve to know that Guney, no doubt a skilled artist, was also a convicted murderer. You can not whitewash the truth.
The Judge, who also was a prosecutor, made fun of him in front of everybody. "So you are on of those "Kurds"?" Yilmaz warned him, and said "I am Yilmaz Güney, authentic like in my films". But the Judge kept mocking him, so Yilmaz grabbed his revolver and shot that bastard.
It's something well known in Turkey since all the papers wrote about it at that time...-- 193.150.255.102 ( talk) 18:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Yilmaz Guney considered himself of Kurdish origin so I deleted the Zaza origin part. A lot of Zaza's consider themself Kurd and there is no evidence claiming Zaza's have different origins then other Kurds. "My mother was Kurdish, my father a Zaza." [1]. I think it's more appropriate this way, but if someone wants to add that his father spoke the Zaza dialect of Kurdish then feel free to do so.-- Bijikurdistan 12:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone keeps modifying Yılmaz Güney's origins as a "Kurdish film director, scenarist, novelist and actor of Kurdish descent"?! despite me modifying the information as him being a Turkish director etc... of Kurdish descent. Please stop vandalizing the information regarding the artist's ethnical and cultural background. First of all "Kurdish film director etc... of Kurdish descent" is a meaningless phrase in English language as you are overrepeating; secondly there is no need to be so oversensitive about the artist's ethnic origin at all, especially if you are devoid of basic English skills at the same time. By stating that Yılmaz Güney is a Turkish artist of Kurdish descent I am implying that he is part of Turkish movie culture as he produced most of his films in Turkey and all of them in Turkish language while he himself was also part of Kurdish culture where he obtained a lot of his material from. Please stop messing with this title by breaking the basic rules of English language and try to concentrate on the work of the artist rather than being fanatical about his ethnical origin. I am really tired of correcting your faulty English over and over. -- Kingvulture ( talk) 22:38, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Just want to put this out there, but the article seems incredibly full of personal bias.-- 124.177.182.195 ( talk) 06:22, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
According to reliable sources, Yılmaz Güney was a Kurdish director. As you know, Turkish government removed his citizenship. I've read a news that claimed his rights of citizenship had been returned in 1993. Anyway his ethnic Turkishness was zero. And Turkish citizenship was forgotten. But we can give information about his citizenship problem with sources. Wikiepdia must not contribute to the Turkish Ethnocentrism and Turkish legal system. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 11:36, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
As you know, he was not Turkish citizen when he died. Takabeg ( talk) 23:20, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Its the opposite. He's father is from Varto not Siverek, his mother is from Siverek. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.191.154.94 ( talk) 14:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
zazaki is dialect of kurdish alnguage we are kurds! edit this bage ! greets — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.224.189.13 ( talk) 11:43, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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It says in the text that Guney was in prison while certain films were made of his screenplays, and so I do not understand why they are listed at the bottom as directed by him.
During this stretch of incarceration, his most successful screenplays were Sürü (The Herd, 1978) and Düşman (The Enemy, 1979), both directed by Zeki Ökten ... After escaping from prison in 1981 and fleeing to France, Güney won the Palme d'Or at the 1982 Cannes Film Festival for his film Yol, whose director in the field was once again Şerif Gören. It was not until 1983 that Güney resumed directing ...
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I'm personally very tired of all kind of nationalism on every page. It's an article, not a space for nationalists's cold war. I just qouted and edited Yılmaz's own wife Fatos Guney's interview and acknowledge about ethnical background information given by her. If you don't agree with it, it's still not your right to demolish other relaible sources. Talk in talk page of article. Stop vandalism and demolishing sources, referances acording to your personal, political idea. Zazas are Kurds, Kurds are Zazas, They are different etc. Whatever. His background information is not a political issue. The information is there. Read and translate. The statement includes that words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiyar9 ( talk • contribs) 14:57, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
The man himself said " I have kurdish background" . I dont understand why turks hate the word " kurd" so much ? why all this hatered? where all this hate come from my fellow turks ? it's amazing!
I'm not being rude but people, mind your own business. Yilmaz Guney is Kurdish simple as. Why are you arguing for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dersimli62 ( talk • contribs) 23:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
-To the person who keeps modifying this page in broken English: Yilmaz Guney was not simply "blamed by the Turkish police" to have killed a judge. He killed the judge in full view of many witnesses and was convicted in a court of law. This fact is absolutely undisputed in Turkey; and even the most sympathetic fans of Guney accept that he was a convicted murderer and his guilt was established beyond any uncertainty or doubt.
Wikipedia readers deserve to know that Guney, no doubt a skilled artist, was also a convicted murderer. You can not whitewash the truth.
The Judge, who also was a prosecutor, made fun of him in front of everybody. "So you are on of those "Kurds"?" Yilmaz warned him, and said "I am Yilmaz Güney, authentic like in my films". But the Judge kept mocking him, so Yilmaz grabbed his revolver and shot that bastard.
It's something well known in Turkey since all the papers wrote about it at that time...-- 193.150.255.102 ( talk) 18:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Yilmaz Guney considered himself of Kurdish origin so I deleted the Zaza origin part. A lot of Zaza's consider themself Kurd and there is no evidence claiming Zaza's have different origins then other Kurds. "My mother was Kurdish, my father a Zaza." [1]. I think it's more appropriate this way, but if someone wants to add that his father spoke the Zaza dialect of Kurdish then feel free to do so.-- Bijikurdistan 12:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone keeps modifying Yılmaz Güney's origins as a "Kurdish film director, scenarist, novelist and actor of Kurdish descent"?! despite me modifying the information as him being a Turkish director etc... of Kurdish descent. Please stop vandalizing the information regarding the artist's ethnical and cultural background. First of all "Kurdish film director etc... of Kurdish descent" is a meaningless phrase in English language as you are overrepeating; secondly there is no need to be so oversensitive about the artist's ethnic origin at all, especially if you are devoid of basic English skills at the same time. By stating that Yılmaz Güney is a Turkish artist of Kurdish descent I am implying that he is part of Turkish movie culture as he produced most of his films in Turkey and all of them in Turkish language while he himself was also part of Kurdish culture where he obtained a lot of his material from. Please stop messing with this title by breaking the basic rules of English language and try to concentrate on the work of the artist rather than being fanatical about his ethnical origin. I am really tired of correcting your faulty English over and over. -- Kingvulture ( talk) 22:38, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Just want to put this out there, but the article seems incredibly full of personal bias.-- 124.177.182.195 ( talk) 06:22, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
According to reliable sources, Yılmaz Güney was a Kurdish director. As you know, Turkish government removed his citizenship. I've read a news that claimed his rights of citizenship had been returned in 1993. Anyway his ethnic Turkishness was zero. And Turkish citizenship was forgotten. But we can give information about his citizenship problem with sources. Wikiepdia must not contribute to the Turkish Ethnocentrism and Turkish legal system. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 11:36, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
As you know, he was not Turkish citizen when he died. Takabeg ( talk) 23:20, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Its the opposite. He's father is from Varto not Siverek, his mother is from Siverek. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.191.154.94 ( talk) 14:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
zazaki is dialect of kurdish alnguage we are kurds! edit this bage ! greets — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.224.189.13 ( talk) 11:43, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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It says in the text that Guney was in prison while certain films were made of his screenplays, and so I do not understand why they are listed at the bottom as directed by him.
During this stretch of incarceration, his most successful screenplays were Sürü (The Herd, 1978) and Düşman (The Enemy, 1979), both directed by Zeki Ökten ... After escaping from prison in 1981 and fleeing to France, Güney won the Palme d'Or at the 1982 Cannes Film Festival for his film Yol, whose director in the field was once again Şerif Gören. It was not until 1983 that Güney resumed directing ...
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