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It's great that someone has added Quebec to the article, but I think perhaps the emphasis is best placed on the term emerging from France, and being adopted by Quebec later. I presume it wasn't too long after it was referred to in France as ye-ye that the term was used in Quebec. A reference to the use of the term ye-ye in Quebec would be very welcome here, but I lack one. Perhaps the opening paragraph could benefit from being rephrased to refer to ye-ye as a term for French language rock that emerged from 60s France, and a mention of the term travelling could be placed later.
Basically the sociologist Edgar Morin used 'ye-ye' for the first time in 1963, after "La Nuit De La Nation", a concert celebrating the magazine Salut Les Copains' 1st birthday. I've not read the original article, but from what I've read about it, it seems like it was a disparaging reference to witnessing, for the first time in France, teens en masse taking on an identity influenced by American rock 'n' roll culture. (Though it's not entirely a put-down, and in large part genuine curiosity about observing this new phenomenon).
It's not inaccurate to say ye-ye emerged from France and Quebec in the 60s - because the actual ye-ye music and artists did - but I think a little more information would help emphasise that the naming of this phenomenon specifically emerged from France. The nationalistic aspect to its coinage - demonstrating a suspicion toward the influence of another culture - is integral to the history of ye-ye, I believe.
When I have time or feel I can do it in a way that does the subject matter justice (and can find some reliable references), I'll attempt to make some of these changes myself. But for now, these are suggestions that I hope might be taken up by someone who is knowledgable in this area. Spikedcandy 09:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
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To clarify why I added 'citation needed' after the Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry sentence: I just want to be sure that listing these specific influences is based on some written evidence, rather than an extrapolation - however reasonable that may be based on either the ye-ye sound, or the fact that ye-ye was inspired by early rock'n'roll in general. Soundwise, I think Elvis and Chuck Berry are evident influences, but I think we need this confirmed by some published info. I'm a little less certain of the influence of Little Richard. I can't think of any ye-ye I've heard that sounds influenced by him; if anyone can think of examples, please share them. As for references, even individual artists discussing their influences should be adequate. Spikedcandy 17:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
The article refers to a 1967 Beatles concert in Madrid. That can't be right, because the Beatles stopped playing concerts in 1966. Anyway, I don't know exactly how the Beatles relate to ye-ye, since that wasn't their genre. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
The term "yeye" may have come to mean "young, innocent, and cute" for some, but originally it was nothing more than an interjection meant to imitate the "yeah!" of American or English singers.
Yeye music was by no means dominated by female singers. The author mentions Jacques Dutronc, Michel Polnareff, and Serge Gainsbourg, concluding correctly that "maybe we could not properly call them yeye singers", but overlooks singers like Claude François, Richard Anthony, Frank Alamo, and Johnny Hallyday, hugely successful and worthy of the "yeye" label (although Hallyday preferred to be considered a "rockeur"). Wheatonna ( talk) 02:22, 2 June 2008
I'm not well enough versed in computer-stuff of yé-yé music to feel comfortable editing the main page, but the second sentence is: "The term 'yé-yé' derived from 'yeah! yeah!' yell." Wouldn't something like "The term 'yé-yé' is derived from 'Yeah! Yeah!'-- a phrase singers often yelt," be clearer? (UTC)
Would like to add some to the article, who were they? RomaC ( talk) 15:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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The right French spelling is yéyé. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArgosAristos ( talk • contribs) 16:33, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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It's great that someone has added Quebec to the article, but I think perhaps the emphasis is best placed on the term emerging from France, and being adopted by Quebec later. I presume it wasn't too long after it was referred to in France as ye-ye that the term was used in Quebec. A reference to the use of the term ye-ye in Quebec would be very welcome here, but I lack one. Perhaps the opening paragraph could benefit from being rephrased to refer to ye-ye as a term for French language rock that emerged from 60s France, and a mention of the term travelling could be placed later.
Basically the sociologist Edgar Morin used 'ye-ye' for the first time in 1963, after "La Nuit De La Nation", a concert celebrating the magazine Salut Les Copains' 1st birthday. I've not read the original article, but from what I've read about it, it seems like it was a disparaging reference to witnessing, for the first time in France, teens en masse taking on an identity influenced by American rock 'n' roll culture. (Though it's not entirely a put-down, and in large part genuine curiosity about observing this new phenomenon).
It's not inaccurate to say ye-ye emerged from France and Quebec in the 60s - because the actual ye-ye music and artists did - but I think a little more information would help emphasise that the naming of this phenomenon specifically emerged from France. The nationalistic aspect to its coinage - demonstrating a suspicion toward the influence of another culture - is integral to the history of ye-ye, I believe.
When I have time or feel I can do it in a way that does the subject matter justice (and can find some reliable references), I'll attempt to make some of these changes myself. But for now, these are suggestions that I hope might be taken up by someone who is knowledgable in this area. Spikedcandy 09:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 08:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
To clarify why I added 'citation needed' after the Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry sentence: I just want to be sure that listing these specific influences is based on some written evidence, rather than an extrapolation - however reasonable that may be based on either the ye-ye sound, or the fact that ye-ye was inspired by early rock'n'roll in general. Soundwise, I think Elvis and Chuck Berry are evident influences, but I think we need this confirmed by some published info. I'm a little less certain of the influence of Little Richard. I can't think of any ye-ye I've heard that sounds influenced by him; if anyone can think of examples, please share them. As for references, even individual artists discussing their influences should be adequate. Spikedcandy 17:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
The article refers to a 1967 Beatles concert in Madrid. That can't be right, because the Beatles stopped playing concerts in 1966. Anyway, I don't know exactly how the Beatles relate to ye-ye, since that wasn't their genre. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
The term "yeye" may have come to mean "young, innocent, and cute" for some, but originally it was nothing more than an interjection meant to imitate the "yeah!" of American or English singers.
Yeye music was by no means dominated by female singers. The author mentions Jacques Dutronc, Michel Polnareff, and Serge Gainsbourg, concluding correctly that "maybe we could not properly call them yeye singers", but overlooks singers like Claude François, Richard Anthony, Frank Alamo, and Johnny Hallyday, hugely successful and worthy of the "yeye" label (although Hallyday preferred to be considered a "rockeur"). Wheatonna ( talk) 02:22, 2 June 2008
I'm not well enough versed in computer-stuff of yé-yé music to feel comfortable editing the main page, but the second sentence is: "The term 'yé-yé' derived from 'yeah! yeah!' yell." Wouldn't something like "The term 'yé-yé' is derived from 'Yeah! Yeah!'-- a phrase singers often yelt," be clearer? (UTC)
Would like to add some to the article, who were they? RomaC ( talk) 15:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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The right French spelling is yéyé. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArgosAristos ( talk • contribs) 16:33, 10 October 2020 (UTC)