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I wonder if the list of fictional xenoarchaeologists is really necessary? 203.206.103.96 17:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed these two entries because the book isn't technically xenoarchaeological: it deals with human archaeology. Icehenge by Kim Stanley Robinson, Hjalmar Nederland ( Icehenge). Xenoarchaeology 00:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
An article that consists mostly of lists isn't that useful. I wish there was more "meat" to this article.
I did a search in Google scholar and I found this reference to an unpublished paper:
On a normal Google search I found this essay in a British journal of archeology: [1] and a letter in response that mentions "Xenoarcheology" -- written back in 1996 [2]. Here is a neat article in another archeology journal: [3]. It would be cool to try and summarize the "established" point of view given by these scientific-like papers into the article and reference them. Currently this article does border on "original research" because it is not backed up by scientific papers (or references of any type at the moment.) -- 64.230.120.109 17:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
There are only 500 Google hits for xenoarchaeology and 350 for exoarchaeology. The most common term for this field is "extraterrestrial archaeology" (11,100 hits) -- although that may be in part because it is the name of a book and a few documentaries. This fact should probably be mentioned. Another term is "alien archaeology".
Hope this helps a little bit. -- 64.230.120.109 17:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm concerned that the definition might be a little too narrow. If xenoarchaeology is limited to study of "the physical remains of alien cultures", what would be the proper term for the study of the remains of human cultures that are found off the Earth? In the present/near future this would include both the investigation of certain technical mysteries (such as why the Soviet Mars 3 probe failed) and advocacy to establish and maintain World Heritage sites associated with important events (like the Apollo landing sites). I know that at least a couple of papers have been published dealing with the latter. Farther into the future, one can easily imagine archaeologists studying the remains of early human space colonies. JJefferson 06:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Maybe for "xenoarchaeology", but a Google search on "exoarchaeology" brings up hits for both usages. So perhaps "exoarchaeology" could be it's own entry, rather than redirecting here? Or "space archaeology", which has no Wikipedia entry at all, and which, based on Google, seems to be the most common term for the non-fiction, non-crank uses of archaeology off Earth? JJefferson 17:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Vicky A. Walsh's paper 'The Case for Exo-Archaeology' defines "off-world or Exo-archaeology" as "the search for and analysis, interpretation and presentation of the artefacts and remains of intelligent life beyond the confines of the Earth... Exo-archaeology is unlimited in spatial scope as it includes the moon, the planets of our solar system, asteroids and all the space in between, and, more especially, beyond. Such study could certainly include the debris of our own somewhat limited exploration of the universe, and in the future it almost certainly will" (Walsh 2002, p. 121).
Note: exoarchaeology is thus the practice of archaeology in space, on either extraterrestrial or human sites. Xenoarchaeology, which focuses on alien life, is a specialisation within exoarchaeology, in the way that Egyptology is a specialised field of archaeology, focusing on Egyptian culture. Should the article be renamed "exoarchaeology" with "xenoarchaeology" a subsection? Or should an exoarchaeology article be created? Steve 22:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Recently, an IP has been repeatedly adding the following paragraph to the article:
This paragraph doesn't adhere to WP:NPOV and the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, and to me it doesn't seem to add anything to the article. Third parties, please advise: should this be included? If so, it needs drastic revision. Michaelbusch ( talk) 23:58, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Could this subject extend to archeological studies of other human species, or is it exclusively extraterrestrial?
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I wonder if the list of fictional xenoarchaeologists is really necessary? 203.206.103.96 17:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed these two entries because the book isn't technically xenoarchaeological: it deals with human archaeology. Icehenge by Kim Stanley Robinson, Hjalmar Nederland ( Icehenge). Xenoarchaeology 00:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
An article that consists mostly of lists isn't that useful. I wish there was more "meat" to this article.
I did a search in Google scholar and I found this reference to an unpublished paper:
On a normal Google search I found this essay in a British journal of archeology: [1] and a letter in response that mentions "Xenoarcheology" -- written back in 1996 [2]. Here is a neat article in another archeology journal: [3]. It would be cool to try and summarize the "established" point of view given by these scientific-like papers into the article and reference them. Currently this article does border on "original research" because it is not backed up by scientific papers (or references of any type at the moment.) -- 64.230.120.109 17:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
There are only 500 Google hits for xenoarchaeology and 350 for exoarchaeology. The most common term for this field is "extraterrestrial archaeology" (11,100 hits) -- although that may be in part because it is the name of a book and a few documentaries. This fact should probably be mentioned. Another term is "alien archaeology".
Hope this helps a little bit. -- 64.230.120.109 17:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm concerned that the definition might be a little too narrow. If xenoarchaeology is limited to study of "the physical remains of alien cultures", what would be the proper term for the study of the remains of human cultures that are found off the Earth? In the present/near future this would include both the investigation of certain technical mysteries (such as why the Soviet Mars 3 probe failed) and advocacy to establish and maintain World Heritage sites associated with important events (like the Apollo landing sites). I know that at least a couple of papers have been published dealing with the latter. Farther into the future, one can easily imagine archaeologists studying the remains of early human space colonies. JJefferson 06:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Maybe for "xenoarchaeology", but a Google search on "exoarchaeology" brings up hits for both usages. So perhaps "exoarchaeology" could be it's own entry, rather than redirecting here? Or "space archaeology", which has no Wikipedia entry at all, and which, based on Google, seems to be the most common term for the non-fiction, non-crank uses of archaeology off Earth? JJefferson 17:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Vicky A. Walsh's paper 'The Case for Exo-Archaeology' defines "off-world or Exo-archaeology" as "the search for and analysis, interpretation and presentation of the artefacts and remains of intelligent life beyond the confines of the Earth... Exo-archaeology is unlimited in spatial scope as it includes the moon, the planets of our solar system, asteroids and all the space in between, and, more especially, beyond. Such study could certainly include the debris of our own somewhat limited exploration of the universe, and in the future it almost certainly will" (Walsh 2002, p. 121).
Note: exoarchaeology is thus the practice of archaeology in space, on either extraterrestrial or human sites. Xenoarchaeology, which focuses on alien life, is a specialisation within exoarchaeology, in the way that Egyptology is a specialised field of archaeology, focusing on Egyptian culture. Should the article be renamed "exoarchaeology" with "xenoarchaeology" a subsection? Or should an exoarchaeology article be created? Steve 22:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Recently, an IP has been repeatedly adding the following paragraph to the article:
This paragraph doesn't adhere to WP:NPOV and the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, and to me it doesn't seem to add anything to the article. Third parties, please advise: should this be included? If so, it needs drastic revision. Michaelbusch ( talk) 23:58, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Could this subject extend to archeological studies of other human species, or is it exclusively extraterrestrial?
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