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More likely to get confused with Xenu than a character from the Hulk (comics), thus that disambig should go first. This is not a "pov push", and the classification as such, especially in an edit summary, is inappropriate. Instead, simply say "see talk" in the edit summary, and explain reasoning of order of disambig succinctly on talk page. That would be more polite and Civil. Thank you. Smee 15:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC).
<< Smee, I think another editor is talking to us elsewhere about the use of loaded terms; see Talk:The Profit#Third opinion. He says "What you are debating goes beyond mere semantics and affects a reader's interpretation (both conscious and subconscious) of an article's subject.". Now Smee, might this; "You were blocked in the past in part due to this type of accusations"; be your attempt at "[affecting] a reader's interpretation (both conscious and subconscious)" of me as an editor. Especially as this is about the 4th or 5th time that you have trotted that out recently? Pray tell, Smee. -- Justanother 15:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I was curious as to why this article falls under the aegis of the Scientology project. I don't see the connection. Konczewski 21:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Not to fan the fire, but being knowledgeable in both subjects i have never thought of a connection betwen the two. For one thing Xemnu was created in 1960, seven years before Hubbard wrote OT III. So unless one wants to establish that Hubbard while residing in England in 1960 was reading cheap American comics and used it as an inspiration for Xenu, I doubt this is relevant. Plus the insistence of those who have only a passing knowledge of Scientology on blowing out of proportion this minor element never fails to perplex me. -- 86.74.136.162 11:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Since JIM 62 predates OT III by seven years, there is no reason to make a link between both. -- Leocomix 22:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Say what you want about Xemnu not being the inspiration for OTT3,but how the hell is he a hulk prototype besides the name?,I know that he is Marvel's first continuing character called the Hulk,but it was really just a two-part "monster of the month" story,it probably just had a sequel because of fan-mail or Stan just being lazy(READ those old monster stories,they're great when the writers were willing,but 89% of the time they just re-used the plots over and over,just see the web-site monster-blog,which unfortunately is now defunct,but where the material can still be seen.)or drunk,one of the three. but there really is no concrete connection besides the fact that Xemnu and the Hulk later had it out,in fact;There was this monster that Xemnu used a duplicate of called Diablo,it was just a huge puff of smoke in humanoid form,the storie's un-named hero was later revealed to have been Ullysees Bloodstone;so since they are both big hulking monsters that were later used in Earth 616 stories,should Diablo also be called a Hulk prototype?;methinks not. True,I did see an issue of the overstreet price guide where it listed JIM#62 as a hulk-prototype,but it was from,like 1972!,the modern price guides list it as Xemnu's debut,so get with the times people. and if names make a prototype,then see JIM#79,about a mad-scientist who turns himself into a monster so he can get revenge on his ex-girlfriend,he looks JUST like the gray-Hulk only bald and a bit craggy,and in fact the issue pre-dates HULK#1 by a month!,the scientist used a potion to transform,but who cares?,the issue pre-dates HULK#1 by a month so it could have beeen a test-run by Kirby to draw a big,hulking monster,it could even be a prototype for Ultimate Hulk,since getting rejected by his girlfriend was why Ultimate Banner became the hulk in Ultimate continuity,but is it?,NO!,so don't call Xemnu a Hulk prototype when he is ClEARLY a seperate character,even to the point of fighting the Hulk,Wikipedia shouldn't be influenced by word-of-mouth or decades out-of-date price guides,and if you cite that you need sources,consult the ctual price guide that is up-to-date,it's a lot more reliable than somenthing out-of-date.remove it or Hulk smash computer!,because Hulk no relation to furry-metal white thing,Garrrgh!,hulk hate stupid Admins.-Yours truly-Hulk.
The footnote for Marvel Premiere # 3 should actually be Marvel Feature # 3. Citation: http://marvel.wikia.com/Marvel_Feature_Vol_1_3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.51.142 ( talk) 12:29, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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More likely to get confused with Xenu than a character from the Hulk (comics), thus that disambig should go first. This is not a "pov push", and the classification as such, especially in an edit summary, is inappropriate. Instead, simply say "see talk" in the edit summary, and explain reasoning of order of disambig succinctly on talk page. That would be more polite and Civil. Thank you. Smee 15:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC).
<< Smee, I think another editor is talking to us elsewhere about the use of loaded terms; see Talk:The Profit#Third opinion. He says "What you are debating goes beyond mere semantics and affects a reader's interpretation (both conscious and subconscious) of an article's subject.". Now Smee, might this; "You were blocked in the past in part due to this type of accusations"; be your attempt at "[affecting] a reader's interpretation (both conscious and subconscious)" of me as an editor. Especially as this is about the 4th or 5th time that you have trotted that out recently? Pray tell, Smee. -- Justanother 15:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I was curious as to why this article falls under the aegis of the Scientology project. I don't see the connection. Konczewski 21:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Not to fan the fire, but being knowledgeable in both subjects i have never thought of a connection betwen the two. For one thing Xemnu was created in 1960, seven years before Hubbard wrote OT III. So unless one wants to establish that Hubbard while residing in England in 1960 was reading cheap American comics and used it as an inspiration for Xenu, I doubt this is relevant. Plus the insistence of those who have only a passing knowledge of Scientology on blowing out of proportion this minor element never fails to perplex me. -- 86.74.136.162 11:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Since JIM 62 predates OT III by seven years, there is no reason to make a link between both. -- Leocomix 22:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Say what you want about Xemnu not being the inspiration for OTT3,but how the hell is he a hulk prototype besides the name?,I know that he is Marvel's first continuing character called the Hulk,but it was really just a two-part "monster of the month" story,it probably just had a sequel because of fan-mail or Stan just being lazy(READ those old monster stories,they're great when the writers were willing,but 89% of the time they just re-used the plots over and over,just see the web-site monster-blog,which unfortunately is now defunct,but where the material can still be seen.)or drunk,one of the three. but there really is no concrete connection besides the fact that Xemnu and the Hulk later had it out,in fact;There was this monster that Xemnu used a duplicate of called Diablo,it was just a huge puff of smoke in humanoid form,the storie's un-named hero was later revealed to have been Ullysees Bloodstone;so since they are both big hulking monsters that were later used in Earth 616 stories,should Diablo also be called a Hulk prototype?;methinks not. True,I did see an issue of the overstreet price guide where it listed JIM#62 as a hulk-prototype,but it was from,like 1972!,the modern price guides list it as Xemnu's debut,so get with the times people. and if names make a prototype,then see JIM#79,about a mad-scientist who turns himself into a monster so he can get revenge on his ex-girlfriend,he looks JUST like the gray-Hulk only bald and a bit craggy,and in fact the issue pre-dates HULK#1 by a month!,the scientist used a potion to transform,but who cares?,the issue pre-dates HULK#1 by a month so it could have beeen a test-run by Kirby to draw a big,hulking monster,it could even be a prototype for Ultimate Hulk,since getting rejected by his girlfriend was why Ultimate Banner became the hulk in Ultimate continuity,but is it?,NO!,so don't call Xemnu a Hulk prototype when he is ClEARLY a seperate character,even to the point of fighting the Hulk,Wikipedia shouldn't be influenced by word-of-mouth or decades out-of-date price guides,and if you cite that you need sources,consult the ctual price guide that is up-to-date,it's a lot more reliable than somenthing out-of-date.remove it or Hulk smash computer!,because Hulk no relation to furry-metal white thing,Garrrgh!,hulk hate stupid Admins.-Yours truly-Hulk.
The footnote for Marvel Premiere # 3 should actually be Marvel Feature # 3. Citation: http://marvel.wikia.com/Marvel_Feature_Vol_1_3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.51.142 ( talk) 12:29, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Xemnu/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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