The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I am giving this article a GA Review. It is massive so will take me quite a while, I'll probably work through each section as it occurs in the article to keep concerns & fixes straight.
Shearonink (
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19:40, 6 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Thank you for reviewing this long article. I work full time, and may not be able to devote a lot of time to it until the weekend—other than a portion of my lunch hour.
TwoScars (
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14:14, 7 March 2017 (UTC)reply
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
*The "sought their own safety" quote & various references are repeated twice - Note #15(Ref 34, 43) and Note #23(Ref 34, 43, 33, 1, 62). I am not certain that the information and refs need to be repeated in two separate Notes.
Shearonink (
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20:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)reply
The URL for Ref #24 has apparently moved - please update it.
Not sure what you mean. 24 is Hill 2014, pp.84–85. It has no URL because it refers to a book listed in the References. I can try to find another source to cite if you do not like Hill.
TwoScars (
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18:08, 8 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I have no idea either frankly - apparently Checklinks gave me a false negative on one of the references. They all look fine now.
Shearonink (
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07:34, 9 March 2017 (UTC)reply
There is a large area of commonality with wvculture.org/history/sesquicentennial but this is because of quoted material that is clearly set off with quote marks in this article. The one quote that needs to be adjusted is in Note #23 where "sought their own safety" is not finished with a closing quotation mark.
Shearonink (
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20:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I am reading through the article a couple more times today. I think there is some more cleanup that could possibly be done, please see "Bits & pieces" section below.
Shearonink (
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21:20, 11 March 2017 (UTC)reply
@
TwoScars: This article is now passed to a
WP:GA status. It was a pleasure to read - well researched, nicely-written prose, timeline easy-to-understand, very thrilling - congrats. Going forward possible improvements could be perhaps adding some images of the Civil War-era Wytheville main street or maybe seeing if the Raid had any long-term impacts on the war-effort either on the Confederacy or on the Union side.
Shearonink (
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23:21, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
P.S. - I do see that a future Governor of Virginia - Henry Carter Stuart - was born in Wytheville in 1855...I have to wonder if he saw any of the fighting during the Raid...
Shearonink (
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23:21, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Good question! I probably thought I would use it, but either never did or eliminated it later. I have removed it from Wytheville Raid (and added to my sandbox in case I need it).
TwoScars (
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19:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I think the following sentence needs to be adjusted - the phrasing is somewhat out-of-order & confusing:
After the incident, the men were ordered to fall back to the pike that was located between Raleigh Court House and the county seat (at that time) of Wyoming County, Oceana.
to something along the lines of:
After the incident, the men were ordered to fall back to the pike that was located between Raleigh Court House and Oceana, Virginia (the then-county seat of Wyoming County).
Shearonink (
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21:20, 11 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Changed to: After the incident, the men were ordered to fall back to the pike that was located between the West Virginia communities of Raleigh Court House and Oceana. (At the time, Oceana was the county seat of Wyoming County.)
TwoScars (
talk) 19:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC) Not sure if the parentheses are necessary.
TwoScars (
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19:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
An irrelevant fact I learned while visiting Wytheville: I thought Colonel Toland's name rhymed with "Poland", but I was told his family pronounces it as rhyming with "Holland". I can't put that in the article, since I have no written proof.
TwoScars (
talk)
19:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I am giving this article a GA Review. It is massive so will take me quite a while, I'll probably work through each section as it occurs in the article to keep concerns & fixes straight.
Shearonink (
talk)
19:40, 6 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Thank you for reviewing this long article. I work full time, and may not be able to devote a lot of time to it until the weekend—other than a portion of my lunch hour.
TwoScars (
talk)
14:14, 7 March 2017 (UTC)reply
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
*The "sought their own safety" quote & various references are repeated twice - Note #15(Ref 34, 43) and Note #23(Ref 34, 43, 33, 1, 62). I am not certain that the information and refs need to be repeated in two separate Notes.
Shearonink (
talk)
20:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)reply
The URL for Ref #24 has apparently moved - please update it.
Not sure what you mean. 24 is Hill 2014, pp.84–85. It has no URL because it refers to a book listed in the References. I can try to find another source to cite if you do not like Hill.
TwoScars (
talk)
18:08, 8 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I have no idea either frankly - apparently Checklinks gave me a false negative on one of the references. They all look fine now.
Shearonink (
talk)
07:34, 9 March 2017 (UTC)reply
There is a large area of commonality with wvculture.org/history/sesquicentennial but this is because of quoted material that is clearly set off with quote marks in this article. The one quote that needs to be adjusted is in Note #23 where "sought their own safety" is not finished with a closing quotation mark.
Shearonink (
talk)
20:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I am reading through the article a couple more times today. I think there is some more cleanup that could possibly be done, please see "Bits & pieces" section below.
Shearonink (
talk)
21:20, 11 March 2017 (UTC)reply
@
TwoScars: This article is now passed to a
WP:GA status. It was a pleasure to read - well researched, nicely-written prose, timeline easy-to-understand, very thrilling - congrats. Going forward possible improvements could be perhaps adding some images of the Civil War-era Wytheville main street or maybe seeing if the Raid had any long-term impacts on the war-effort either on the Confederacy or on the Union side.
Shearonink (
talk)
23:21, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
P.S. - I do see that a future Governor of Virginia - Henry Carter Stuart - was born in Wytheville in 1855...I have to wonder if he saw any of the fighting during the Raid...
Shearonink (
talk)
23:21, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Good question! I probably thought I would use it, but either never did or eliminated it later. I have removed it from Wytheville Raid (and added to my sandbox in case I need it).
TwoScars (
talk)
19:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I think the following sentence needs to be adjusted - the phrasing is somewhat out-of-order & confusing:
After the incident, the men were ordered to fall back to the pike that was located between Raleigh Court House and the county seat (at that time) of Wyoming County, Oceana.
to something along the lines of:
After the incident, the men were ordered to fall back to the pike that was located between Raleigh Court House and Oceana, Virginia (the then-county seat of Wyoming County).
Shearonink (
talk)
21:20, 11 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Changed to: After the incident, the men were ordered to fall back to the pike that was located between the West Virginia communities of Raleigh Court House and Oceana. (At the time, Oceana was the county seat of Wyoming County.)
TwoScars (
talk) 19:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC) Not sure if the parentheses are necessary.
TwoScars (
talk)
19:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
An irrelevant fact I learned while visiting Wytheville: I thought Colonel Toland's name rhymed with "Poland", but I was told his family pronounces it as rhyming with "Holland". I can't put that in the article, since I have no written proof.
TwoScars (
talk)
19:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply