History of Wyandanch was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 06 September 2010 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Wyandanch, New York. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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The history section of this page is excellent! Wonderful job, but I think it should probably be moved to it's own separate "History of Wyandanch" page, as it is dominating the current article. Anyone else agree? Also, I apologize if I'm using the "talk page" incorrectly this is my first time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nymetropolitans ( talk • contribs) 08:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
This article has a number of serious issues that urgently require attention. Of utmost importance is the fact that nearly all of the article lacks footnotes or is unsourced. The references section has sources listed, but it is not at all clear what information came from those sources. Several chunks of information could constitute their own new articles, but the new articles would totally lack citation. The article itself is too long (and too big in file size), so moving information out into new articles would definitely help, but much of it appears to be overly detailed and could probably be removed. Certain non-neutral point of view words are sprinkled throughout the article such as unfortunately, pristine, and voracious. The article is highly unbalanced, providing substancial historical information but little present-day information. -- JBC3 ( talk) 16:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
As far as the "intricate" detail is concerned. The Wyandanch community has historically been a victim of social apathy, government neglect, and outright racism even on the pages of Wikipedia. This fact proves those most interested in Wyandanch have an interest in protecting its reputation from misinformation and lack of information which has been a real problem to which Wikipedia provides a solution. This page and other minority focused sites are cherished and protected by like minded people. I greatly appreciate the users who have contributed such a rich history about Wyandanch to this site. Thank you so very much. -- Landerman56 ( talk) 19:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Verno Whitney: Please do not vandalize or make major changes to this site without discussing them first. That is elementary due process of la.wThe editor: ldoughist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.230.106 ( talk) 16:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
This article, at almost 264000 bytes, is not an encyclopedic article--it's a collection of newspaper clippings. I don't even know where to start. Drmies ( talk) 01:52, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
I Happened to stumble across the split out page during New Page Patrolling. This article clearly needs a lot of work and an editor to do the task of removing unnecessary content and making this article streamlined and readable. (A good place to start: the notable people section. Generally the people should only be there if they have a WP article.) If combined, these two articles would be the 8th largest non-list article on Wikipedia. Fiftytwo thirty ( talk) 01:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
For my own reference (or anyone else should they happen to feel like taking a stab at it):
The article should be examined from a modern perspective and revised under Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. Take a look at examples from Category:FA-Class WikiProject Cities articles (or even the recently delisted New York City). VernoWhitney ( talk) 20:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate whoever took the time to work on the footnote citations. Thank you: Ldoughist — 24.184.230.106 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 00:40, 30 April 2011 (UTC) (UTC).
What happened to the History of Wyandanch? Where can I find it? Why was it removed? Who removed it? A little help please. — 24.186.54.232 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 00:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC) (UTC). Where is the very informative History of Wyandanch? Who removed it? Why? It had important information about so many interesting topics and families. How can I access it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.222.22 ( talk) 11:39, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
I have begun cleaning this up a bit. The sheer amount of trivia was overwhelming, and it's a shame--whatever really happened in this town is invisible, hidden behind extended paragraphs on schoolchildren planting flowers and lengthy descriptions of fires. There is no excuse for the amount of poorly sourced and only locally relevant information here, and a few shortcuts come to mind: WP:NOTDIR, WP:NOTNEWS, and WP:NOTMEMORIAL (the 1971 death of a police officer, which isn't notable in the first place, took up 2507 characters). Drmies ( talk) 17:26, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Lady of Shalott- Thanks for doing a fine job with the endnotes. Drmies and Lady of Shallot should understand that it is a grave disservice to have totally wiped out all reference to the remarkable "Wyandanch Rising" program. This is an up to $500 million community development program, which has been evolving since 2003. It is one of the most innovative and exciting community development programs in the entire United States. I don't know where you live but this is an unusual bipartisan effort by federal, state, county and town governemts and private business in the USA to revitalize one of the poorest and most afflicted communities on otherwise affluent Long Island. I understand your stress on brevity but totally eliminating all reference to it is quite inexplicable. 24.186.54.232 ( talk) 01:44, 4 July 2011 (UTC)Ldoughist 24.186.54.232 ( talk) 01:44, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Those who are condensing this admittedly long article have overreacted by completely removing the Business and Industry section. While this community is perhaps the poorest in Suffolk County; sat one time major corporations (Fairchild, Grumman, Atlantic & Pacific Tea, Geneovese Drugs and other)had tax paying, job producing businesses in this community. They deserve some mention. 24.186.54.232 ( talk) 17:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC)Need for some acknowledgement of Business and Industry in Wyandanch 24.186.54.232 ( talk) 17:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC) Ldoughist
Please do not revert my edits. They are only removing minor details, repetition or facts that are off target. This is constructive editing, not vandalism. Ldoughist — 24.186.54.232 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 21:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC).
This is a serious historical site. It is not the place for racist remarks (an example was recently cleaned up) Posting bigoted statements is entirely unacceptable and will not be tolerated. Ldoughist — 24.228.33.87 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 04:34, 18 January 2012 (UTC) (UTC).
There is not enough information about demographics and income which are normally included on town entries — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.85.110 ( talk) 14:46, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
It is customary to name buildings and things for dead people. There are exceptions, but MLK was alive in 1967. "On the first three nights of August 1967, racial disturbances broke out in Wyandanch as small groups of young African-American adults reportedly smashed windows in three stores, overturned two cars, set fire to the auditorium of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Elementary School on Mount Avenue,"-- Wlmg ( talk) 13:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
History of Wyandanch was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 06 September 2010 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Wyandanch, New York. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Wyandanch, New York was copied or moved into History of Wyandanch with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
The history section of this page is excellent! Wonderful job, but I think it should probably be moved to it's own separate "History of Wyandanch" page, as it is dominating the current article. Anyone else agree? Also, I apologize if I'm using the "talk page" incorrectly this is my first time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nymetropolitans ( talk • contribs) 08:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
This article has a number of serious issues that urgently require attention. Of utmost importance is the fact that nearly all of the article lacks footnotes or is unsourced. The references section has sources listed, but it is not at all clear what information came from those sources. Several chunks of information could constitute their own new articles, but the new articles would totally lack citation. The article itself is too long (and too big in file size), so moving information out into new articles would definitely help, but much of it appears to be overly detailed and could probably be removed. Certain non-neutral point of view words are sprinkled throughout the article such as unfortunately, pristine, and voracious. The article is highly unbalanced, providing substancial historical information but little present-day information. -- JBC3 ( talk) 16:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
As far as the "intricate" detail is concerned. The Wyandanch community has historically been a victim of social apathy, government neglect, and outright racism even on the pages of Wikipedia. This fact proves those most interested in Wyandanch have an interest in protecting its reputation from misinformation and lack of information which has been a real problem to which Wikipedia provides a solution. This page and other minority focused sites are cherished and protected by like minded people. I greatly appreciate the users who have contributed such a rich history about Wyandanch to this site. Thank you so very much. -- Landerman56 ( talk) 19:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Verno Whitney: Please do not vandalize or make major changes to this site without discussing them first. That is elementary due process of la.wThe editor: ldoughist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.230.106 ( talk) 16:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
This article, at almost 264000 bytes, is not an encyclopedic article--it's a collection of newspaper clippings. I don't even know where to start. Drmies ( talk) 01:52, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
I Happened to stumble across the split out page during New Page Patrolling. This article clearly needs a lot of work and an editor to do the task of removing unnecessary content and making this article streamlined and readable. (A good place to start: the notable people section. Generally the people should only be there if they have a WP article.) If combined, these two articles would be the 8th largest non-list article on Wikipedia. Fiftytwo thirty ( talk) 01:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
For my own reference (or anyone else should they happen to feel like taking a stab at it):
The article should be examined from a modern perspective and revised under Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. Take a look at examples from Category:FA-Class WikiProject Cities articles (or even the recently delisted New York City). VernoWhitney ( talk) 20:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate whoever took the time to work on the footnote citations. Thank you: Ldoughist — 24.184.230.106 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 00:40, 30 April 2011 (UTC) (UTC).
What happened to the History of Wyandanch? Where can I find it? Why was it removed? Who removed it? A little help please. — 24.186.54.232 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 00:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC) (UTC). Where is the very informative History of Wyandanch? Who removed it? Why? It had important information about so many interesting topics and families. How can I access it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.222.22 ( talk) 11:39, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
I have begun cleaning this up a bit. The sheer amount of trivia was overwhelming, and it's a shame--whatever really happened in this town is invisible, hidden behind extended paragraphs on schoolchildren planting flowers and lengthy descriptions of fires. There is no excuse for the amount of poorly sourced and only locally relevant information here, and a few shortcuts come to mind: WP:NOTDIR, WP:NOTNEWS, and WP:NOTMEMORIAL (the 1971 death of a police officer, which isn't notable in the first place, took up 2507 characters). Drmies ( talk) 17:26, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Lady of Shalott- Thanks for doing a fine job with the endnotes. Drmies and Lady of Shallot should understand that it is a grave disservice to have totally wiped out all reference to the remarkable "Wyandanch Rising" program. This is an up to $500 million community development program, which has been evolving since 2003. It is one of the most innovative and exciting community development programs in the entire United States. I don't know where you live but this is an unusual bipartisan effort by federal, state, county and town governemts and private business in the USA to revitalize one of the poorest and most afflicted communities on otherwise affluent Long Island. I understand your stress on brevity but totally eliminating all reference to it is quite inexplicable. 24.186.54.232 ( talk) 01:44, 4 July 2011 (UTC)Ldoughist 24.186.54.232 ( talk) 01:44, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Those who are condensing this admittedly long article have overreacted by completely removing the Business and Industry section. While this community is perhaps the poorest in Suffolk County; sat one time major corporations (Fairchild, Grumman, Atlantic & Pacific Tea, Geneovese Drugs and other)had tax paying, job producing businesses in this community. They deserve some mention. 24.186.54.232 ( talk) 17:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC)Need for some acknowledgement of Business and Industry in Wyandanch 24.186.54.232 ( talk) 17:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC) Ldoughist
Please do not revert my edits. They are only removing minor details, repetition or facts that are off target. This is constructive editing, not vandalism. Ldoughist — 24.186.54.232 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 21:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC).
This is a serious historical site. It is not the place for racist remarks (an example was recently cleaned up) Posting bigoted statements is entirely unacceptable and will not be tolerated. Ldoughist — 24.228.33.87 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 04:34, 18 January 2012 (UTC) (UTC).
There is not enough information about demographics and income which are normally included on town entries — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.85.110 ( talk) 14:46, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
It is customary to name buildings and things for dead people. There are exceptions, but MLK was alive in 1967. "On the first three nights of August 1967, racial disturbances broke out in Wyandanch as small groups of young African-American adults reportedly smashed windows in three stores, overturned two cars, set fire to the auditorium of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Elementary School on Mount Avenue,"-- Wlmg ( talk) 13:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)