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I disagree that the Wurlitzer is brighter, more hollow, and clearer (more vibraphone-like) than the Rhodes; to me, the opposite is true. I hear the Wurlitzer as more guitar-like, blending in with the music and being darker. What is the general consensus here?
I would say that a Rhodes is more bell-like during normal use but a lightly-played Wurlitzer actually has a "sweeter" tone. With average playing, the Rhodes has a murkier, darker tone than a Wurlitzer played in the same way - the Wurly simply cuts through better. Played hard, of course, the Rhodes has the edge - with a Wurly you'll just damage the reeds!
Simon Beck [1]
Regarding the "difference between the electric and electronic pianos", I think that this is untrue - the earliest 1950s literature refers to the instrument as an "electronic piano", and the phrase "electric piano", while technically more accurate, was never actually used by the Wurlitzer company.
Of course, if you can prove otherwise...
Simon Beck [2]
"Chicago" doesn't use a Wurlitzer; it's a Vibraphone.
In a video it looked kinda like a rhodes, but I'm no expert. It's definitely not a wurly (though I can't tell by sound in this case)
On Brainwashed, "Stuck Inside a Cloud" he plays a Rhodes, check the album booklet —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.47.121.97 ( talk) 05:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Could we change the title of this page to "Wurlitzer Electronic Piano", with a redirect from "Wurlitzer electric piano"? The former is the proper name of the instrument from the manufacturer, while the latter is what most people think it is. Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritchie333 ( talk • contribs) 09:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
While I agree in principle that the manufacturer's trademark should have precedence over the common term, I should also point out:
Simon Beck London, UK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.194.123 ( talk) 12:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
What are Wikipedia's principles on this? Anyone know?
Admittedly, the first time I ever heard of the Wurlitzer being an "Electronic Piano" (which it isn't) was when I bought one and saw it on the front. I've checked the manual of my Nord Electro (which emulates it) to see what it refers to, but it only mentions "Wurlitzer 200A".
-- Ritchie333 15:46, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the URL www.ep-service.nl from the References section for the following reasons:
I suspect it's just an advertisement link. If anyone disagrees with me then I will gladly rectify my change.
Cheers
Adamd1008 ( talk) 17:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
The sample of an "Emulated Wurlitzer" from a Nord is not really appropriate for an article on a Wurlitzer, any more than a picture of a plastic squid belongs in an article on a squid. How about a sample of a real one? Sojambi Pinola ( talk) 17:08, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Styx - "Lady" was written on a wurlitzer, but is not played on a wurlitzer in the recordings. The wiki article even says it was played on piano for the recording (but links to a dead site).
See Musical Museum, Kew Bridge Road, London. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.149.226.202 ( talk) 18:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I've had a go at cleaning up this article, as it was totally unsourced. I've got one book that has a few paragraphs on the Wurlitzer, but the main prose in the article is still largely lacking references, so I can't tell whether or not it's original research by somebody who's seen a lot of Wurlies drawing their own conclusions. The "Recorded Examples" list is, IMHO too long, and seems to be an attempt to list everything the Wurly was ever heard on. I'd rather trim this down to examples eg: Supertramp, You're My Best Friend - stuff that actually have chance of being reliably sourced. If you disagree, shout, or I'll boldly run off and do it. -- Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Oh, come on...the only audio example on the page is a Nord 2?
It would appear that someone went nuts deleting the audio references. . . I personally would love to see some of these restored so that I can delve into my music collection and listen to some songs featuring the Wurly. I suppose I can go into the article history and resurrect some of these, but I think someone else may be more qualified to pick which of the original list are most representative of the instrument.
Mikerrr (
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I can find no evidence, other than repeated heresay, that the 200A replaced the 200 before 1974. I am starting to suspect that the date of 1972 is wrong, and its repeated mention on Wikipedia and elsewhere is causing a circular pattern of misinformation. The earliest dated schematic for the 200A series, that I can find, is from October 15, 1974. People may be confused by old parts stuck in later machines. I'm happy to be proven wrong, though. Sojambi Pinola ( talk) 19:31, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
is this really necessary? I mean, one instance of a use by eddie van halen? it's fascinating, but...
& it amused me greatly to see don fagen's name down twice.
duncanrmi ( talk) 12:51, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
AFAIK, The Beatles didn't really use the Wurlitzer and were better known for the Hohner Pianet and Rhodes piano. Could someone please explain the addition of "The Beatles" to this article?-- 71.200.123.192 ( talk) 01:37, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
This list is getting to be WP:INDISCRIMINATE and there's been a lot of addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content. Much like we've got seperate articles for Hammond organ/ List of Hammond organ players and Moog synthesizer/ List of Moog synthesizer players and, looking at the page history for the Rhodes piano article, I couldn't help but notice an edit summary by Ritchie333 ( talk · contribs) that said "take it to List of Rhodes piano players" (and no harm intended Ritchie, but it seems odd that you should direct someone to a red link, unless maybe you're proposing a separate article, which is understandable) and so, based on a precedent of such splits, I see no reason why we can't have a separate article for List of Wurlitzer electric piano players. Some thoughts and opinions from music participants would be helpful.-- Kevjgav ( talk) 16:36, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
"the first documented commercial recording using the Wurlitzer was two years earlier, Steve Allen's "Electrified Favorites" of 1958, prominently featuring the new keyboard (Coral 57185)."
I am not sure what the source is for that statement, but it is misleading. Two earlier recordings have come to mind:
Duke Ellington recorded on a Wurlitzer (probably a 110) on May 18 and 19, 1955, for Capitol Records, at Universal Studios in Chicago. One of the tracks was "Coquette." [3] This is a very obscure session, and I’m not sure any of the Wurlitzer tracks were released until later. Even if that is the case, and if we are talking about the first _released_ recording, Sun Ra still beats Steve Allen:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110713115556/http://homepage.uab.edu/moudry/disc_h.htm
Let's update the article! Sojambi Pinola ( talk) 21:07, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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That's all I have, so it's on hold. The Rambling Man ( Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
I made a start on an image list, but didn't get very far. I included the best-selling models in a table, and two of them we don't have pictures for. Commons:Category:Wurlitzer electric pianos does include some shots of the 206, a student model reappropriated by pro musicians, but I don't have a source for what years it was produced. This makes producing a list that is complete and verifiable somewhat problematic. Here's what I've done so far:
Image | Model Name / Number | Years produced | Description |
---|---|---|---|
112 | 1955-1956 | Sustain pedal attaches underneath the instrument, as opposed to the side on earlier models. [1] | |
120 | 1956-1962 | First model to feature tremolo. [2] | |
140 | 1962-1968 | First to feature a solid-state amplifier. [3] | |
200 | 1968-1984 | The most popular model produced. [4] |
References
Excellent, I think I'm happy to promote now, this is a very good piece of work. The Rambling Man ( Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Need to add baby grand gps2000 data to spec and charts. Nothing higher than 200s listed. I need a full set of data for them. I am being given one needing fixed. 2603:6010:CE06:284A:A420:5514:8209:51E4 ( talk) 14:58, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
@ Ritchie333 could you please explain why you reverted my edit here https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wurlitzer_electronic_piano&oldid=1193942101
Your edit summary is "nothing to do with the Wurlitzer". Can you explain what do you mean? Thanks
Mastazi ( talk) 14:11, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Wurlitzer electronic piano has been listed as one of the
Music good articles under the
good article criteria. If you can improve it further,
please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can
reassess it. Review: March 25, 2021. ( Reviewed version). |
This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||
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I disagree that the Wurlitzer is brighter, more hollow, and clearer (more vibraphone-like) than the Rhodes; to me, the opposite is true. I hear the Wurlitzer as more guitar-like, blending in with the music and being darker. What is the general consensus here?
I would say that a Rhodes is more bell-like during normal use but a lightly-played Wurlitzer actually has a "sweeter" tone. With average playing, the Rhodes has a murkier, darker tone than a Wurlitzer played in the same way - the Wurly simply cuts through better. Played hard, of course, the Rhodes has the edge - with a Wurly you'll just damage the reeds!
Simon Beck [1]
Regarding the "difference between the electric and electronic pianos", I think that this is untrue - the earliest 1950s literature refers to the instrument as an "electronic piano", and the phrase "electric piano", while technically more accurate, was never actually used by the Wurlitzer company.
Of course, if you can prove otherwise...
Simon Beck [2]
"Chicago" doesn't use a Wurlitzer; it's a Vibraphone.
In a video it looked kinda like a rhodes, but I'm no expert. It's definitely not a wurly (though I can't tell by sound in this case)
On Brainwashed, "Stuck Inside a Cloud" he plays a Rhodes, check the album booklet —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.47.121.97 ( talk) 05:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Could we change the title of this page to "Wurlitzer Electronic Piano", with a redirect from "Wurlitzer electric piano"? The former is the proper name of the instrument from the manufacturer, while the latter is what most people think it is. Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritchie333 ( talk • contribs) 09:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
While I agree in principle that the manufacturer's trademark should have precedence over the common term, I should also point out:
Simon Beck London, UK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.194.123 ( talk) 12:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
What are Wikipedia's principles on this? Anyone know?
Admittedly, the first time I ever heard of the Wurlitzer being an "Electronic Piano" (which it isn't) was when I bought one and saw it on the front. I've checked the manual of my Nord Electro (which emulates it) to see what it refers to, but it only mentions "Wurlitzer 200A".
-- Ritchie333 15:46, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the URL www.ep-service.nl from the References section for the following reasons:
I suspect it's just an advertisement link. If anyone disagrees with me then I will gladly rectify my change.
Cheers
Adamd1008 ( talk) 17:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
The sample of an "Emulated Wurlitzer" from a Nord is not really appropriate for an article on a Wurlitzer, any more than a picture of a plastic squid belongs in an article on a squid. How about a sample of a real one? Sojambi Pinola ( talk) 17:08, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Styx - "Lady" was written on a wurlitzer, but is not played on a wurlitzer in the recordings. The wiki article even says it was played on piano for the recording (but links to a dead site).
See Musical Museum, Kew Bridge Road, London. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.149.226.202 ( talk) 18:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I've had a go at cleaning up this article, as it was totally unsourced. I've got one book that has a few paragraphs on the Wurlitzer, but the main prose in the article is still largely lacking references, so I can't tell whether or not it's original research by somebody who's seen a lot of Wurlies drawing their own conclusions. The "Recorded Examples" list is, IMHO too long, and seems to be an attempt to list everything the Wurly was ever heard on. I'd rather trim this down to examples eg: Supertramp, You're My Best Friend - stuff that actually have chance of being reliably sourced. If you disagree, shout, or I'll boldly run off and do it. -- Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Oh, come on...the only audio example on the page is a Nord 2?
It would appear that someone went nuts deleting the audio references. . . I personally would love to see some of these restored so that I can delve into my music collection and listen to some songs featuring the Wurly. I suppose I can go into the article history and resurrect some of these, but I think someone else may be more qualified to pick which of the original list are most representative of the instrument.
Mikerrr (
talk)
21:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
I can find no evidence, other than repeated heresay, that the 200A replaced the 200 before 1974. I am starting to suspect that the date of 1972 is wrong, and its repeated mention on Wikipedia and elsewhere is causing a circular pattern of misinformation. The earliest dated schematic for the 200A series, that I can find, is from October 15, 1974. People may be confused by old parts stuck in later machines. I'm happy to be proven wrong, though. Sojambi Pinola ( talk) 19:31, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
is this really necessary? I mean, one instance of a use by eddie van halen? it's fascinating, but...
& it amused me greatly to see don fagen's name down twice.
duncanrmi ( talk) 12:51, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
AFAIK, The Beatles didn't really use the Wurlitzer and were better known for the Hohner Pianet and Rhodes piano. Could someone please explain the addition of "The Beatles" to this article?-- 71.200.123.192 ( talk) 01:37, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
This list is getting to be WP:INDISCRIMINATE and there's been a lot of addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content. Much like we've got seperate articles for Hammond organ/ List of Hammond organ players and Moog synthesizer/ List of Moog synthesizer players and, looking at the page history for the Rhodes piano article, I couldn't help but notice an edit summary by Ritchie333 ( talk · contribs) that said "take it to List of Rhodes piano players" (and no harm intended Ritchie, but it seems odd that you should direct someone to a red link, unless maybe you're proposing a separate article, which is understandable) and so, based on a precedent of such splits, I see no reason why we can't have a separate article for List of Wurlitzer electric piano players. Some thoughts and opinions from music participants would be helpful.-- Kevjgav ( talk) 16:36, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
"the first documented commercial recording using the Wurlitzer was two years earlier, Steve Allen's "Electrified Favorites" of 1958, prominently featuring the new keyboard (Coral 57185)."
I am not sure what the source is for that statement, but it is misleading. Two earlier recordings have come to mind:
Duke Ellington recorded on a Wurlitzer (probably a 110) on May 18 and 19, 1955, for Capitol Records, at Universal Studios in Chicago. One of the tracks was "Coquette." [3] This is a very obscure session, and I’m not sure any of the Wurlitzer tracks were released until later. Even if that is the case, and if we are talking about the first _released_ recording, Sun Ra still beats Steve Allen:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110713115556/http://homepage.uab.edu/moudry/disc_h.htm
Let's update the article! Sojambi Pinola ( talk) 21:07, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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That's all I have, so it's on hold. The Rambling Man ( Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
I made a start on an image list, but didn't get very far. I included the best-selling models in a table, and two of them we don't have pictures for. Commons:Category:Wurlitzer electric pianos does include some shots of the 206, a student model reappropriated by pro musicians, but I don't have a source for what years it was produced. This makes producing a list that is complete and verifiable somewhat problematic. Here's what I've done so far:
Image | Model Name / Number | Years produced | Description |
---|---|---|---|
112 | 1955-1956 | Sustain pedal attaches underneath the instrument, as opposed to the side on earlier models. [1] | |
120 | 1956-1962 | First model to feature tremolo. [2] | |
140 | 1962-1968 | First to feature a solid-state amplifier. [3] | |
200 | 1968-1984 | The most popular model produced. [4] |
References
Excellent, I think I'm happy to promote now, this is a very good piece of work. The Rambling Man ( Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Need to add baby grand gps2000 data to spec and charts. Nothing higher than 200s listed. I need a full set of data for them. I am being given one needing fixed. 2603:6010:CE06:284A:A420:5514:8209:51E4 ( talk) 14:58, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
@ Ritchie333 could you please explain why you reverted my edit here https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wurlitzer_electronic_piano&oldid=1193942101
Your edit summary is "nothing to do with the Wurlitzer". Can you explain what do you mean? Thanks
Mastazi ( talk) 14:11, 6 January 2024 (UTC)