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Charles Furnas was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 29 August 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Wright Flyer III. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
Regarding the following excerpt from the Flyer III article:
"it crashed at Fort Myer, Virginia.....After being abandoned...."
I believe two separate aircraft were actually involved. The 1905 Flyer, which they remodeled and tested at Kitty Hawk in May 1908, suffered a serious crash there with Wilbur piloting. They abandoned it at the site; pieces were later recovered and the Flyer eventually restored and displayed at Dayton. The machine that crashed at Fort Myer was built by Orville between May and September of 1908, specifically for the Army demonstration flights. After crashing at Kitty Hawk, Wilbur departed for France to make demo flights with a machine they had shipped to Europe in 1907. 4.227.255.180 01:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC) DonFB
It seems that the 1908 Flyer is not a Flyer III; it is a two seater aircraft instead of prone position single. Plxdesi january 08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.102.4.123 ( talk) 22:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
The Flyer III became the first two-seater they built, not the 2nd. However, it was not a two-seater until they modified it for the practice flights they made at Kitty Hawk in May 1908. The 2nd two-seater to fly was the airplane Wilbur assembled spring-summer 1908 in France (1st flight in August). The third was the airplane Orville and Charlie Taylor built in Dayton for the 1908 Ft. Myer tests (1st flight in September). DonFB ( talk) 02:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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@ Koplimek: I revised the first flight caption to attribute identifications to the Library of Congress. I don't think eyeballing a photo enlargement can really count as a reliable or verifiable source. On the other hand, I would agree that the running man does not look very much like Wilbur, and the other guy looks like he could be someone other than Taylor. But I think we have to come down on the side of attributing the IDs to an actual source, rather than our own guesswork. The quote I added and cited has been included in the photo file info page since the upload. DonFB ( talk) 06:37, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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Charles Furnas was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 29 August 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Wright Flyer III. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
Regarding the following excerpt from the Flyer III article:
"it crashed at Fort Myer, Virginia.....After being abandoned...."
I believe two separate aircraft were actually involved. The 1905 Flyer, which they remodeled and tested at Kitty Hawk in May 1908, suffered a serious crash there with Wilbur piloting. They abandoned it at the site; pieces were later recovered and the Flyer eventually restored and displayed at Dayton. The machine that crashed at Fort Myer was built by Orville between May and September of 1908, specifically for the Army demonstration flights. After crashing at Kitty Hawk, Wilbur departed for France to make demo flights with a machine they had shipped to Europe in 1907. 4.227.255.180 01:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC) DonFB
It seems that the 1908 Flyer is not a Flyer III; it is a two seater aircraft instead of prone position single. Plxdesi january 08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.102.4.123 ( talk) 22:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
The Flyer III became the first two-seater they built, not the 2nd. However, it was not a two-seater until they modified it for the practice flights they made at Kitty Hawk in May 1908. The 2nd two-seater to fly was the airplane Wilbur assembled spring-summer 1908 in France (1st flight in August). The third was the airplane Orville and Charlie Taylor built in Dayton for the 1908 Ft. Myer tests (1st flight in September). DonFB ( talk) 02:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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@ Koplimek: I revised the first flight caption to attribute identifications to the Library of Congress. I don't think eyeballing a photo enlargement can really count as a reliable or verifiable source. On the other hand, I would agree that the running man does not look very much like Wilbur, and the other guy looks like he could be someone other than Taylor. But I think we have to come down on the side of attributing the IDs to an actual source, rather than our own guesswork. The quote I added and cited has been included in the photo file info page since the upload. DonFB ( talk) 06:37, 2 April 2023 (UTC)