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The following is unsourced; moved here per
WP:PRESERVE. Per
WP:BURDEN, do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking the content against them, and citing them. The content also violates
WP:PROMO, in that this is content that would be on the website of the organizers, and Wikipedia is
WP:NOTWEBHOST. Independent sourcing will be necessary to show this is
WP:DUE.
Supporting Organizations
Africa
Intact Africa
VMMC Experience Project
Australia
AIGA Inc.
Canada
Canadian Foreskin Awareness Project (CAN-FAP)
Children's Health & Human Rights Partnership
Denmark
Intact Denmark
Just a Snip
Finland
Sexpo Foundation
France
Droit au corps
Germany
Beschneidungsforum.de
Bundesweiter Arbeitskreis Säkulare
Grüne - (Nationwide Working Group of Secular Greens)
BVKJ - (Professional Association of Paediatricians)
DAKJ - (German Academy for Childrens and Youth Medicine)
I am sorry that I am no very skilled WP editor, so please help me fixing this issue. I was asked to show the relevance of the event's article and I guessed it would be a good idea to show that even larger organizations worldwide support this event which is celebrated in a continuous row in the 5th year now. Do I understand your critics right that there is no other source than the list of supporting organizations on the campaign's own website which cannot be seen as a reliable source?
Ulf Dunkel (
talk)
11:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Reading the descriptions of
WP:DUE, I guess listing the above Supporting Organizations fulfulls the requirements as of "If a viewpoint is held by a significant minority, then it should be easy to name prominent adherents;" from
WP:DUE.
Ulf Dunkel (
talk)
08:52, 15 May 2017 (UTC)reply
The following is mostly unsourced; moved here per
WP:PRESERVE. Per
WP:BURDEN, do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking the content against them, and citing them. The content also violates
WP:PROMO, in that this is content that would be on the website of the organizers, and Wikipedia is
WP:NOTWEBHOST. Independent sourcing will be necessary to show this is
WP:DUE.
Accompanying Events
2014
In Germany, a Scientific Symposium[1][2][3] took place one day earlier in Cologne, being organized by MOGiS e.V. and pro familia NRW.
2015
In Germany, the WWDOGA was followed by a "Genital Autonomy" conference in the Haus der Jugend (Youth Hostel) in Frankfurt/Main.
2016
Australia
Sydney:
Intactivists from AIGA Inc. demonstrated in William Street.
Germany
The WWDOGA in Germany was accompanied by four in film and discussion events, where the films Circumcision by
Ari Libsker, Hibos Lied - Weibliche Genitalverstümmelung und die Macht der Tradition by Renate Bernhard and Sigrid Dethlof, and the animated short film Hermes und Aphrodite by Gregor Zootsky were shown in Munich, Düsseldorf, Cologne, and Berlin.[4]
Great Britain
London:
Intactivists from London demonstrated in the city with banners and info sheets.
USA
Cathedral City (California): On two days, films around the topic of circumcision were shown and discussed.
Charleston (WV): On the WWDOGA, the 3rd day of the Mid-Atlantic, White House & Ob-Gyn Circumcision Crisis Protests took place.
Denver:
Intactivists demonstrated between California and Stout Street.
New York:
Intactivists demonstrated peacefully against circmcision of children at the Union Square.[5]
San Francisco: The Bay Area
Intactivists demonstrated in the streets.[6]
2017
Germany
The WWDOGA in Germany was introduced by a press conference in Berlin on May 4th, and closed by a symposium Jungenbeschneidung in Deutschland - eine Bestandsaufnahme[7][8] (Circumcision on boys in Germany - an inventory) at the university Düsseldorf on May 8th.
USA
Denver:
Intactivists demonstrated between California and Stout Street.
Los Angeles: Genital Autonomy - America hosted films and discussions of the common ground surrounding non-therapeutic genital cutting of male, female, and intersex children.
San Diego:
Intactivists demonstrated in front of the
ACOG and informed the doctors about the harmful consequences of
RIC.
San Francisco: The Bay Area
Intactivists demonstrated in the streets.
I have tried to find as much reliable sources as possible and will try even harder to find more. You are correct that I didn't cite them as expected. Is it okay if I learn how to correctly cite them and then restore the adjusted content?
Ulf Dunkel (
talk)
11:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Independent sources, are what is needed. Press releases and the like are not OK to show that the content is
W:P:DUE. Please do keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and its mission is to provide the public with enduring, accepted knowledge (like
Encyclopedia Brittanica). Wikipedia is not a
webhost for the organizations that run this event, nor is it a site for advocacy for anything, nor a place to promote anything (not a product, nor a commemorative day), per
WP:PROMO.
I created this section, for work to happen to add refs to the supporters section. The work done in
these diffs changing the section above, is now here. I have signed this section with the editor's signature who did that work. Please update the refs here, and please see my note below. thx
Jytdog (
talk)
17:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Ulf, you have added a bunch of
WP:SPS. You are created a new thing here in Wikipedia, and that is what we call
WP:OR. Wikipedia is not a place to do this kind of work, per that policy. This belongs at
the official website or the like, not here in WP. Wikipedia is not a webhost as is described in the
WP:PROMO policy.
Jytdog (
talk)
17:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Thank you for pointing me to this issue, Jytdog. As this article describes an annual event which is rather new (5th year in a row), what would be reliable sources as per the WP policy?
Ulf Dunkel (
talk)
05:24, 16 May 2017 (UTC)reply
In general, what reliable sources are is discussed
on this page, but specifically, we would need independent reliable sources that discuss this "day" in depth(more than a passing mention) and explain how it is
notable. These would be things like independent news stories, books, etc. that are not associated with those that put on this day or are involved in the cause. They don't have to be in English(Der Spiegel or Le Monde would be fine) My brief searches haven't found much on it, which is why I suggested a merge (and still believe it is the best thing) with the article on circumcision controversies.
331dot (
talk)
07:25, 16 May 2017 (UTC)reply
This redirect is within the scope of WikiProject Human rights, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Human rights on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Human rightsWikipedia:WikiProject Human rightsTemplate:WikiProject Human rightsHuman rights articles
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human sexuality on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The following is unsourced; moved here per
WP:PRESERVE. Per
WP:BURDEN, do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking the content against them, and citing them. The content also violates
WP:PROMO, in that this is content that would be on the website of the organizers, and Wikipedia is
WP:NOTWEBHOST. Independent sourcing will be necessary to show this is
WP:DUE.
Supporting Organizations
Africa
Intact Africa
VMMC Experience Project
Australia
AIGA Inc.
Canada
Canadian Foreskin Awareness Project (CAN-FAP)
Children's Health & Human Rights Partnership
Denmark
Intact Denmark
Just a Snip
Finland
Sexpo Foundation
France
Droit au corps
Germany
Beschneidungsforum.de
Bundesweiter Arbeitskreis Säkulare
Grüne - (Nationwide Working Group of Secular Greens)
BVKJ - (Professional Association of Paediatricians)
DAKJ - (German Academy for Childrens and Youth Medicine)
I am sorry that I am no very skilled WP editor, so please help me fixing this issue. I was asked to show the relevance of the event's article and I guessed it would be a good idea to show that even larger organizations worldwide support this event which is celebrated in a continuous row in the 5th year now. Do I understand your critics right that there is no other source than the list of supporting organizations on the campaign's own website which cannot be seen as a reliable source?
Ulf Dunkel (
talk)
11:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Reading the descriptions of
WP:DUE, I guess listing the above Supporting Organizations fulfulls the requirements as of "If a viewpoint is held by a significant minority, then it should be easy to name prominent adherents;" from
WP:DUE.
Ulf Dunkel (
talk)
08:52, 15 May 2017 (UTC)reply
The following is mostly unsourced; moved here per
WP:PRESERVE. Per
WP:BURDEN, do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking the content against them, and citing them. The content also violates
WP:PROMO, in that this is content that would be on the website of the organizers, and Wikipedia is
WP:NOTWEBHOST. Independent sourcing will be necessary to show this is
WP:DUE.
Accompanying Events
2014
In Germany, a Scientific Symposium[1][2][3] took place one day earlier in Cologne, being organized by MOGiS e.V. and pro familia NRW.
2015
In Germany, the WWDOGA was followed by a "Genital Autonomy" conference in the Haus der Jugend (Youth Hostel) in Frankfurt/Main.
2016
Australia
Sydney:
Intactivists from AIGA Inc. demonstrated in William Street.
Germany
The WWDOGA in Germany was accompanied by four in film and discussion events, where the films Circumcision by
Ari Libsker, Hibos Lied - Weibliche Genitalverstümmelung und die Macht der Tradition by Renate Bernhard and Sigrid Dethlof, and the animated short film Hermes und Aphrodite by Gregor Zootsky were shown in Munich, Düsseldorf, Cologne, and Berlin.[4]
Great Britain
London:
Intactivists from London demonstrated in the city with banners and info sheets.
USA
Cathedral City (California): On two days, films around the topic of circumcision were shown and discussed.
Charleston (WV): On the WWDOGA, the 3rd day of the Mid-Atlantic, White House & Ob-Gyn Circumcision Crisis Protests took place.
Denver:
Intactivists demonstrated between California and Stout Street.
New York:
Intactivists demonstrated peacefully against circmcision of children at the Union Square.[5]
San Francisco: The Bay Area
Intactivists demonstrated in the streets.[6]
2017
Germany
The WWDOGA in Germany was introduced by a press conference in Berlin on May 4th, and closed by a symposium Jungenbeschneidung in Deutschland - eine Bestandsaufnahme[7][8] (Circumcision on boys in Germany - an inventory) at the university Düsseldorf on May 8th.
USA
Denver:
Intactivists demonstrated between California and Stout Street.
Los Angeles: Genital Autonomy - America hosted films and discussions of the common ground surrounding non-therapeutic genital cutting of male, female, and intersex children.
San Diego:
Intactivists demonstrated in front of the
ACOG and informed the doctors about the harmful consequences of
RIC.
San Francisco: The Bay Area
Intactivists demonstrated in the streets.
I have tried to find as much reliable sources as possible and will try even harder to find more. You are correct that I didn't cite them as expected. Is it okay if I learn how to correctly cite them and then restore the adjusted content?
Ulf Dunkel (
talk)
11:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Independent sources, are what is needed. Press releases and the like are not OK to show that the content is
W:P:DUE. Please do keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and its mission is to provide the public with enduring, accepted knowledge (like
Encyclopedia Brittanica). Wikipedia is not a
webhost for the organizations that run this event, nor is it a site for advocacy for anything, nor a place to promote anything (not a product, nor a commemorative day), per
WP:PROMO.
I created this section, for work to happen to add refs to the supporters section. The work done in
these diffs changing the section above, is now here. I have signed this section with the editor's signature who did that work. Please update the refs here, and please see my note below. thx
Jytdog (
talk)
17:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Ulf, you have added a bunch of
WP:SPS. You are created a new thing here in Wikipedia, and that is what we call
WP:OR. Wikipedia is not a place to do this kind of work, per that policy. This belongs at
the official website or the like, not here in WP. Wikipedia is not a webhost as is described in the
WP:PROMO policy.
Jytdog (
talk)
17:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Thank you for pointing me to this issue, Jytdog. As this article describes an annual event which is rather new (5th year in a row), what would be reliable sources as per the WP policy?
Ulf Dunkel (
talk)
05:24, 16 May 2017 (UTC)reply
In general, what reliable sources are is discussed
on this page, but specifically, we would need independent reliable sources that discuss this "day" in depth(more than a passing mention) and explain how it is
notable. These would be things like independent news stories, books, etc. that are not associated with those that put on this day or are involved in the cause. They don't have to be in English(Der Spiegel or Le Monde would be fine) My brief searches haven't found much on it, which is why I suggested a merge (and still believe it is the best thing) with the article on circumcision controversies.
331dot (
talk)
07:25, 16 May 2017 (UTC)reply