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Guitarherosunite ( talk) 16:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I think we should put in information about the expansion packs, I mean we put in the corrupted blood incident, but we did not put anything on the expansion packs? I mean Burning Crusade added 2 new races to the game, new Dungeons, new gear, the Outlands, new honor system, jewel crafting, eventually mounts being lvl 30 to buy them, and elekk and Plainstrider mounts, and Flying mounts, and also you could go from lvl 60 to lvl 70! Also when WotLk comes out we should have information on that too! So far the most important news is that you can play as DeathKnights that start out at lvl 55. And you can go up to lvl 80.
Also we should put in information on the classes and what they do. Because the first time I came to the page it was to get information on the actual game not how it was made who made it and everything.
This article is currently listed at WP:GAN#Video games, but there is no banner at the top of this page confirming that the article is supposed to be a nominee, and I can see no evidence that a banner was put in the page at the time that it was listed. This may suggest that the user who put the article on the list does not fully understand how to nominate an article, or that it was done by an editor who has not been a significant contributor. Could I request editors here confirm whether or not they want this article be listed as a good article nominee by either adding the relevant banner to the top of this page ({{subst:GAN|subtopic=Video games}}), or removing WoW's entry from WP:GAN#Video games. -- Sabre ( talk) 00:23, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Should we include a section, or a link to a section for zombie plague? apparently it draw attention of media http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5032908.ece FoxNews also has a link direct to this article. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444505,00.html it was compared to the Corrupted Blood incident.
The sentence "Players having difficulty finding groups to venture into a dungeon with can use meeting stones, which attempt to match characters with groups requiring particular skills or abilities." is totally wrong, easily years out of date. Meeting stones are no longer used for matchmaking, which is now simply part of the UI (the LFG, or Looking for Group system). I suggest just removing the sentence, or changing it to reflect the current LFG system. - Zenex13 ( talk) 10:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Done. I also worked a bit on the raid descriptive text. sinneed ( talk) 13:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a sentence that says that 'rested xp' is unique, it's not. LOTRO has an enhanced XP system. New here just thought this should be pointed out 86.156.161.163 ( talk) 17:39, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
OK thanks 86.156.161.163 ( talk) 14:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Did you confirm it wasn't a new mechanic before you removed it? 24.119.30.211 ( talk) 21:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes it would matter if a product or person introduced a new concept. 67.60.8.28 ( talk) 09:06, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
This page seems to be protected, I need to add the following to the top to replace the disambig page at Wow which now redirects here:
" For other meanings of the therm "Wow" see Other Meanings of Wow."
Thanks! Wikify567 ( talk) 07:27, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Officially announced by Blizzard Entertainment on October 28, 2008.
Seen in the 3rd Quarter Results of 2008, page 2. http://vivendi.com/vivendi/IMG/pdf/081105_ATVI_ResultsQ3-2.pdf
GEAUX ( talk) 18:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
This press release, dated 28 Oct 2008, is here http://eu.blizzard.com/en/press/081028.html and is in the article. sinneed ( talk) 18:14, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Another gamer hit by game addiction on the new add-on if anyone wants to use the info in the article: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20081118/twl-gamer-collapses-after-24hr-stint-3fd0ae9.html Dark verdant ( talk) 15:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
I made a singe large edit (sorry). If anyone objects, please first accept my apology, then reverse it out or fix it. If you don't want to fix it in detail, just let me know what you didn't like. I'll put it back in in more manageable pieces. If you just have suggestions, those are welcome too. sinneed ( talk) 21:09, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
I made several smaller edits. Some will conflict, so it may not be easy to rev out. Sloppy editing. I'll do better. :,( sinneed ( talk) 21:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
This, to me, seems very much too much detail for a general-purpose encyclopedia article.
Maybe post-launch should include the various expansions and expansion-sets?
Do we really need the hardware requirements here? Why? We aren't trying to sell someone a computer or convince them to buy or not to buy the game. The buyer needs to read the box/manufacturer pages anyway. sinneed ( talk) 21:56, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
"End-game experience" is part of the ongoing experience, once the level cap is reached there are many oppurtunities for a player, for example, 10 man up to 40 man raids, heroic dungeons and player versus player (PvP) in battlegrounds.
What does the PvP dimension of this game consist of? Is it possible to jump right into it or must you reach the high level cap? Eighth Octavarium ( talk) 15:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
who put 'BEST GAME EVER' at the top? Ippy97 ( talk) 15:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
It's still there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MiataMike ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Some (one) re-added "BEST GAME EVER" - have people no respect for information sources?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.45.198.188 ( talk) 06:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Some has put a BEST GAME EVER at the top of the page... and by the looks of it, it's not the first time. I'm new to wiki so I'm not too sure on how to remove it. Someone fix? Firzen777 ( talk) 09:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
This sort of opinion as the first line for the game seems unbased, unfactual, and entirely out of place. Do we have a reference for it being the best game ever? Is it an advertising slogan that has been used for WoW before? If not, I suggest removing this, the first sentence, in this article.
Vermillian (
talk)
20:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Alexander James
"20:44, 11 December 2008 Vermillian (Talk | contribs) New user account"
Stop it.. Thanks.
sinneed (
talk)
21:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
The article currently reads "In June 2005, it was reported that a four-month-old South Korean child had suffocated due to neglect by her parents, who were reportedly at a nearby café, playing World of Warcraft.[94]"
And how many children die simply because their parents are off drinking, or gambling? Some leave their kids in cars and they die from the heat, while they simply go off visiting or shopping, no addictions towards anything at all. Reading the article about these people, just shows what idiots they were, they having one of their mother's upstairs who could've watched the child even. I don't think its fair criticism of the game, or a demonstration of the addictive nature to mention something like that.
Mentioning the obsessive compulsive disorder bit that these types of games have, where to do things you want to you must first do the level treadmill, repeating the same tiresome tasks continuously just to raise a number on your stats and be able to move on to the next bit, would make sense though. I'm going to do some editing now. Just thought I'd explain the reasoning before hand. Dream Focus ( talk) 02:46, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Idea to consider before adding addiction info here: Please see instead the main article about such things. It is an Internet phenomenon, rather than a particular-piece-of-the-Internet phenomenon. Back when computer games were rare, people spent INSANE numbers of hours on them... Adventure, for example. I see the same thing with chat rooms, discussion groups, Wikipedia (yes). sinneed ( talk) 04:26, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I was watching TV last night and saw a new WoW ad (for the wrath expansion) with Ozzy Osbourne in it. Should this be added to the article after Shatner et al or maybe put in the Lich King Page? Didn't want to add myself as I don't want to mess things up. Dark verdant ( talk) 14:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
In the new film the Day the Earth Stood Still, the kid Jacob Benson is seen playing WoW in an early part of the movie. He is seen killing Nagas in Stranglethorn Vale. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mudja69 ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
It is a pity these WoW article debates are not mentioned in the target-merge article talk pages. This is NOT the place for the article, IMO.
Addiction to WoW is *POSSIBLY* Video game addiction, but there is not yet consensus in the scientific community that such a disorder actually exists, or if "video game addiction" symptoms are merely symptoms of some broader problem, or if there is no problem, per se. There would certainly be no consensus that there is such a disorder as addiction to WoW.
All that said, there is very very little encyclopedic content at the article, as I read it... and I am actively seeking content for Video game addiction as it is a... hmmm... "weak" perhaps... article at the moment. I will look at the sources and the words and see if there is anything I can steal for VGA. :) I will, of course, leave the redirect alone.
The WoW addiction article reads more like a transcript for a talk, which leads me to think it is notes from or for a talk. sinneed ( talk) 04:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
sinneed ( talk) 17:44, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
In response to several highly-publicized World of Warcraft-related deaths (and to combat game-addiction in general), China has imposed strict restrictions on how long, and how often, a person may play. All of the country's major game operators have expressed agreement with the restrictions, which severely curb the players' characters' abilities after more than five hours of sustained play. Additionally, players must also take a mandatory five-hour break between sessions.. [1]
The above was added today, but conflicts substantially with existing wording. I place it here for review and possible inclusion, or inclusion in the gaming addiction article. sinneed ( talk) 16:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Im curious as to if someone would at all the dances for evrey race, the song that goes with the dance and the artist of the song, just a suggestion of course. I would happily do it but i am unable to edit the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lupun ( talk • contribs) 05:21, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | Archive 14 | Archive 15 | → | Archive 20 |
Guitarherosunite ( talk) 16:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I think we should put in information about the expansion packs, I mean we put in the corrupted blood incident, but we did not put anything on the expansion packs? I mean Burning Crusade added 2 new races to the game, new Dungeons, new gear, the Outlands, new honor system, jewel crafting, eventually mounts being lvl 30 to buy them, and elekk and Plainstrider mounts, and Flying mounts, and also you could go from lvl 60 to lvl 70! Also when WotLk comes out we should have information on that too! So far the most important news is that you can play as DeathKnights that start out at lvl 55. And you can go up to lvl 80.
Also we should put in information on the classes and what they do. Because the first time I came to the page it was to get information on the actual game not how it was made who made it and everything.
This article is currently listed at WP:GAN#Video games, but there is no banner at the top of this page confirming that the article is supposed to be a nominee, and I can see no evidence that a banner was put in the page at the time that it was listed. This may suggest that the user who put the article on the list does not fully understand how to nominate an article, or that it was done by an editor who has not been a significant contributor. Could I request editors here confirm whether or not they want this article be listed as a good article nominee by either adding the relevant banner to the top of this page ({{subst:GAN|subtopic=Video games}}), or removing WoW's entry from WP:GAN#Video games. -- Sabre ( talk) 00:23, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Should we include a section, or a link to a section for zombie plague? apparently it draw attention of media http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5032908.ece FoxNews also has a link direct to this article. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444505,00.html it was compared to the Corrupted Blood incident.
The sentence "Players having difficulty finding groups to venture into a dungeon with can use meeting stones, which attempt to match characters with groups requiring particular skills or abilities." is totally wrong, easily years out of date. Meeting stones are no longer used for matchmaking, which is now simply part of the UI (the LFG, or Looking for Group system). I suggest just removing the sentence, or changing it to reflect the current LFG system. - Zenex13 ( talk) 10:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Done. I also worked a bit on the raid descriptive text. sinneed ( talk) 13:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a sentence that says that 'rested xp' is unique, it's not. LOTRO has an enhanced XP system. New here just thought this should be pointed out 86.156.161.163 ( talk) 17:39, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
OK thanks 86.156.161.163 ( talk) 14:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Did you confirm it wasn't a new mechanic before you removed it? 24.119.30.211 ( talk) 21:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes it would matter if a product or person introduced a new concept. 67.60.8.28 ( talk) 09:06, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
This page seems to be protected, I need to add the following to the top to replace the disambig page at Wow which now redirects here:
" For other meanings of the therm "Wow" see Other Meanings of Wow."
Thanks! Wikify567 ( talk) 07:27, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Officially announced by Blizzard Entertainment on October 28, 2008.
Seen in the 3rd Quarter Results of 2008, page 2. http://vivendi.com/vivendi/IMG/pdf/081105_ATVI_ResultsQ3-2.pdf
GEAUX ( talk) 18:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
This press release, dated 28 Oct 2008, is here http://eu.blizzard.com/en/press/081028.html and is in the article. sinneed ( talk) 18:14, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Another gamer hit by game addiction on the new add-on if anyone wants to use the info in the article: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20081118/twl-gamer-collapses-after-24hr-stint-3fd0ae9.html Dark verdant ( talk) 15:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
I made a singe large edit (sorry). If anyone objects, please first accept my apology, then reverse it out or fix it. If you don't want to fix it in detail, just let me know what you didn't like. I'll put it back in in more manageable pieces. If you just have suggestions, those are welcome too. sinneed ( talk) 21:09, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
I made several smaller edits. Some will conflict, so it may not be easy to rev out. Sloppy editing. I'll do better. :,( sinneed ( talk) 21:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
This, to me, seems very much too much detail for a general-purpose encyclopedia article.
Maybe post-launch should include the various expansions and expansion-sets?
Do we really need the hardware requirements here? Why? We aren't trying to sell someone a computer or convince them to buy or not to buy the game. The buyer needs to read the box/manufacturer pages anyway. sinneed ( talk) 21:56, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
"End-game experience" is part of the ongoing experience, once the level cap is reached there are many oppurtunities for a player, for example, 10 man up to 40 man raids, heroic dungeons and player versus player (PvP) in battlegrounds.
What does the PvP dimension of this game consist of? Is it possible to jump right into it or must you reach the high level cap? Eighth Octavarium ( talk) 15:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
who put 'BEST GAME EVER' at the top? Ippy97 ( talk) 15:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
It's still there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MiataMike ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Some (one) re-added "BEST GAME EVER" - have people no respect for information sources?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.45.198.188 ( talk) 06:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Some has put a BEST GAME EVER at the top of the page... and by the looks of it, it's not the first time. I'm new to wiki so I'm not too sure on how to remove it. Someone fix? Firzen777 ( talk) 09:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
This sort of opinion as the first line for the game seems unbased, unfactual, and entirely out of place. Do we have a reference for it being the best game ever? Is it an advertising slogan that has been used for WoW before? If not, I suggest removing this, the first sentence, in this article.
Vermillian (
talk)
20:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Alexander James
"20:44, 11 December 2008 Vermillian (Talk | contribs) New user account"
Stop it.. Thanks.
sinneed (
talk)
21:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
The article currently reads "In June 2005, it was reported that a four-month-old South Korean child had suffocated due to neglect by her parents, who were reportedly at a nearby café, playing World of Warcraft.[94]"
And how many children die simply because their parents are off drinking, or gambling? Some leave their kids in cars and they die from the heat, while they simply go off visiting or shopping, no addictions towards anything at all. Reading the article about these people, just shows what idiots they were, they having one of their mother's upstairs who could've watched the child even. I don't think its fair criticism of the game, or a demonstration of the addictive nature to mention something like that.
Mentioning the obsessive compulsive disorder bit that these types of games have, where to do things you want to you must first do the level treadmill, repeating the same tiresome tasks continuously just to raise a number on your stats and be able to move on to the next bit, would make sense though. I'm going to do some editing now. Just thought I'd explain the reasoning before hand. Dream Focus ( talk) 02:46, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Idea to consider before adding addiction info here: Please see instead the main article about such things. It is an Internet phenomenon, rather than a particular-piece-of-the-Internet phenomenon. Back when computer games were rare, people spent INSANE numbers of hours on them... Adventure, for example. I see the same thing with chat rooms, discussion groups, Wikipedia (yes). sinneed ( talk) 04:26, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I was watching TV last night and saw a new WoW ad (for the wrath expansion) with Ozzy Osbourne in it. Should this be added to the article after Shatner et al or maybe put in the Lich King Page? Didn't want to add myself as I don't want to mess things up. Dark verdant ( talk) 14:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
In the new film the Day the Earth Stood Still, the kid Jacob Benson is seen playing WoW in an early part of the movie. He is seen killing Nagas in Stranglethorn Vale. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mudja69 ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
It is a pity these WoW article debates are not mentioned in the target-merge article talk pages. This is NOT the place for the article, IMO.
Addiction to WoW is *POSSIBLY* Video game addiction, but there is not yet consensus in the scientific community that such a disorder actually exists, or if "video game addiction" symptoms are merely symptoms of some broader problem, or if there is no problem, per se. There would certainly be no consensus that there is such a disorder as addiction to WoW.
All that said, there is very very little encyclopedic content at the article, as I read it... and I am actively seeking content for Video game addiction as it is a... hmmm... "weak" perhaps... article at the moment. I will look at the sources and the words and see if there is anything I can steal for VGA. :) I will, of course, leave the redirect alone.
The WoW addiction article reads more like a transcript for a talk, which leads me to think it is notes from or for a talk. sinneed ( talk) 04:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
sinneed ( talk) 17:44, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
In response to several highly-publicized World of Warcraft-related deaths (and to combat game-addiction in general), China has imposed strict restrictions on how long, and how often, a person may play. All of the country's major game operators have expressed agreement with the restrictions, which severely curb the players' characters' abilities after more than five hours of sustained play. Additionally, players must also take a mandatory five-hour break between sessions.. [1]
The above was added today, but conflicts substantially with existing wording. I place it here for review and possible inclusion, or inclusion in the gaming addiction article. sinneed ( talk) 16:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Im curious as to if someone would at all the dances for evrey race, the song that goes with the dance and the artist of the song, just a suggestion of course. I would happily do it but i am unable to edit the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lupun ( talk • contribs) 05:21, 30 December 2008 (UTC)