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On-air in the WWE, Big Show's brief reign as World Champion has been referred to as just 45 seconds in length but this is actually very inaccurate. Timing his reign from bell to bell, starting with the first bell after pinning Mark Henry and the second bell, after he got pinned by Daniel Bryan, the time totaling to 1:54 (One minute and Fifty Four Seconds). â Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.68.59.76 ( talk) 06:15, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
On the July 22nd edition of Smackdown, reigning World Heavyweight Champion Christian's belt strap seemed red from the back. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.68.59.76 ( talk) 13:21, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
If you view footage from Chris Jericho's most recent title reign onwards you will see that the World Title has undergone a slight cosmetic change. The wrestlers that use to be included as ornamental design pieces have been removed and are no longer visible on the center plate or side plates. The images on WWE.com also confirm this though not many images of the belt close-up exist. As such I feel the article needs to updated to reflect this change and a new photograph included on the main page. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.155.144 ( talk) 00:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Is it not also the former WCW title though? If it carries the lineage due to a company merger, it should technically be considered the same title. Yes, it was merged into the Undisputed title, but the WWE Championship hasn't been called that since Bischoff brought BACK the Big Gold Belt. Being that Bischoff was the head of WCW and brought it back to award to Triple H - and was treated as having the lineage of the old WCW title by WWE - should it not be considered the same title? It seems to me that Bischoff merely split it off again after the merger, at least that's what I understood back when it happened. Are there sources saying otherwise? This article doesn't really cite why that isn't the case. 50.98.154.116 ( talk) 08:26, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
one of the references ( http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/tripleh/tentimestheking/reign6match/) is now a dead link 72.200.156.118 ( talk) 16:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
The World Heavyweight Championship that has recently been carried by such greats as Batista and Triple H got its start in WWE back in 2002. But its prestigious lineage can actually be traced back all the way to George Hackenschmidt and 1904. For years, it was known as the NWA Championship; then when WCW pulled out of the NWA in the early 1990s, Ric Flair was recognized as the first-ever WCW Champion. Since that time, top names such as Hulk Hogan, Ron Simmons and Bret Hart carried the championship prior to WCW's demise.
so says the WCW title page now, also under WWE's WHC page, it has "historical photo" of old NWA & WCW champions. looks like it now carries the same lineage. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.247.87 ( talk) 03:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
"For years it was known as the NWA Championship"? A belt is NOT a title, a belt only represents a title. The original Big Gold belt only represented the NWA World Title. The NWA and it's World Title never ceast to exist and still exist to this day. MrNWA4Life 08:47 25 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not trying to rekindle an old discussion. It could very well be nothing than just a slip of the tongue. I just wonder why JR, Jerry Lawler, and Triple H refers to himself as an 11 time WWE Champion. I can understand a slip of the tongue a couple of times, but they keep saying over and over. On last night's edition of Raw, for example, both Lawler and JR said the same thing at least once each. It makes me wonder if they're now going to try to say that those 5 reigns with the World Championship are going to be consolidated with the 6 WWE Championship reigns to call him an 11 time WWE Champion. I might be paranoid, but I think of the times that WWE has rewritten history, regardless of how piss poor and senseless it is, to reflect a certain view for a storyline. Sounds like something that they'd do. Odin's Beard ( talk) 23:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Triple H is in fact now a 12 time World Champion. 7 times with the WWE Championship and 5 times with the World Heavyweight. They are equivalent in prestige and so the title reigns are added together. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.208.18 ( talk) 22:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I was just at the show in Atlantic City tonight, and Vickie stripped Taker of the belt. Do we update this now or when it airs? Linknumbers ( talk) 03:54, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Not being allowed to update this page until Smackdown airs somewhere is all bollocks. This is an encyclopedia, it's job is to report fact. And the fact is that Undertaker is no longer World Heavyweight Champion. Doesn't matter when it airs, fact is fact. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.208.18 ( talk) 22:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Then use a reliable source. There are many websites out there that provide the reliable source so we can update this page. www.gerweck.net and www.wrestlingrevealed.com will both confirm that Vicki Guerrero stripped the Undertaker of the World Title. There's your reliable source now can someone please update this page? âPreceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.184.35 ( talk) 13:18, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
What is with all of this fannying around. Will someone who has access to this page please update it? The fact is that Undertaker is no longer World Champion and you are mocking the idea of an encyclopedia. We allno the truth, we know it's not a lie and of course dirtsheets are reliable sources. Now will you all pull your head out of your arses and get on with it? âPreceding unsigned comment added by DannyChaos23 ( talk ⢠contribs) 22:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Let's also remember back in 1990 when The Rockers beat the Hart Foundation for the World Tag Team Titles during a taping of Saturday Night's Main Event. That match ended up being left off of the broadcast, and the title change was never acknowledged. In my opinion, title changes shouldn't be added to Wikipedia until they air on television. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.146.137 ( talk) 07:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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How will we do this? List who comes out on top at the end and then mention how many times the title changed hands in the match? Because I think that matters since every time someone is pinned they are recognized as World Champion for that brief period and while they may or not be champion at the end there were title changes in that period. SuperSonicTH ( talk) 02:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
guy who comes out last is the real official champion. The note section will be enough. I doubt the belt will change more than 3 times.-- Will C 03:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Do you really have to say the design was "replaced"? The belts are near identical, except for the wwe logo..
Shouldn't The Rock be known for the first World Heavyweight Champion? Does anyone not remember when the Alliance lost at Survivor Series '01 The Rock still held before then the WCW Championship, but after SS it was referred as the World Heavyweight Champion until it was merged with the WWF Championship at Vengeance '01. âPreceding unsigned comment added by Killa Koz ( talk ⢠contribs) 04:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
There's no more "Current Champion" section? SuperSonicTH ( talk) 03:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
At the following link, they refer to the title as the WWE World Heavyweight Title.
http://corporate.wwe.com/news/2004/2004_10_05.jsp
On the same page, they refer to the Intercontinental Title as the WWE Intercontinental Title. On the title history page of the WWE website, they refer to both titles without the WWE prefix.
http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/worldheavyweight/
So with that said, on Wikipedia, I believe that both pages should be name in the same manner. Either both should say, "WWE Title Name", or both should say, "Title Name (WWE)".
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Shouldn't it be mentioned that the title was called the World Championship, omitting the word "heavyweight" during Rey Mysterio's reign? Tommyferrellhc08 ( talk) 04:46, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I timed his reign, starting when the bell was rang after the ladder match, and ending with the bell ringing in the MitB match. His reign was 3 minutes and 8 seconds. The statistics section says that his reign is 2 minutes. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 122.3.251.100 ( talk) 07:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Im sorry but under the descrpition of the belts history it say that the World Heavyweight Championship is the successor to the NWA and WCW Championships. I don't think this should be in it due to the fact that it holds a different lineage and therefore it can be confusing to say its the "successor". Thoughts? Approval of removing that statement? âPreceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 ( talk) 04:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Exactly. Fact of the matter is the NWA never ceast to exist and still exists to this day âPreceding unsigned comment added by 173.123.53.88 ( talk) 12:43, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Who wrote that Morrison was champ, i am reverting it back to Jeff. âPreceding unsigned comment added by ShanRaj 10 ( talk ⢠contribs) 02:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Jeff Hardy ChampÄąons Ulan âPreceding unsigned comment added by 78.180.74.165 ( talk) 12:50, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Although the photo description of the current World Heavyweight Championship design in the article stated that design is introduced in March 2003 but when I was watching Survivor Series 2002 (which took place Live on November 17 2002) on VCD I saw Triple H (with Ric Flair) was interviewed backstage by Marc Lyold, Triple H was wearing the "2003" and current design of the World Heavyweight Championship.
Any wikipedian who owned a copy of the Survivor Series 2002 DVD can see the belt's centerplate flashing the WWE's logo on the upper curve of its centerplate while looking closely at that title belt while watching that interview and change the belt's current design intro date. Kyrios320 ( talk) 03:02, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
undertaker is not the oldest champ cause king booker is older than him. also undertaker was 42 when he first won the wch title not 44. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 68.205.115.157 ( talk) 23:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
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this statement seems to have been added and does not make sence ......either it needs to be removed or explained ...cos i dont know if its an acronym or a username â Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.98.80.104 ( talk) 17:30, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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With the unification match at TLC, should it be noted that Cena is technically the final World Heavyweight Champion? Jedi Striker ( talk) 19:25, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
Strangely enough, it's on the list of retired championships. http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/retired-championships â Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.209.139.83 ( talk) 12:16, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Maybe today at RAW, WWE will help us. We can wait a few hours. -- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 16:15, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
I think it's a fairly safe conclusion to make now that the WHC is retired. The website officially declares it, and now Raw made only reference to there being one title, which is the "WWE World Heavyweight Championship". Yes, Orton is lugging around the Big Gold Belt, but that belt has represented many titles in its time. Remember, after all, that when Jericho unified the WCW title and the WWF title, he still carried both belts around for a few months. It seems to me that, for the time being, the single title is being represented by two belts, just as the undisputed championship was. I think that, unless a reliable source says anything to the contrary, it's now safe to assume that the WHC is no more. â Richard BB 08:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
This article contains this sentence ""Its heritage can be traced back to the first world heavyweight championship, thereby giving the belt a legacy over 100 years' old, the oldest in the world.""
How in the world can this title be traced back to the first world championship? How can this be the oldest championship in the world? Especially since the NWA World Title has actually existed since 1948, and this belt was only born in 2002. The belt design itself only goes back to the 80s.
I know there are a few WWE revisionist history statements out there, but I believe that if wikipedia is a truly accurate page, then someone needs to actual proof that this belt is the oldest belt in the world, especially since the NWA title still exists... and it is the oldest belt. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.16.120.232 ( talk) 00:34, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
I propose a slight modification of the article title name. From the current World Heavyweight Champion (WWE) to World Heavyweight Championship (WWE version). I've proposed similar for similar articles that featured disputed title names. They're disputed whether two or more promotions has similar names for a title or one promotion recognition it with a name that another promotion. For example, see the Inoki Genome Federation (IGF) article about the International Grand Prix Wrestling (IGPW) Heavyweight Championship. The IGPW Heavyweight belongs to New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW). IGF previously had a version of that belt which it (and TNA) also recognized as the IGPW Heavyweight Championship. I proposed that the IGF version has the notation IGF version by it. This is similar to how the multiple version of the NWA World Tag Team Championship has their version by it. I like to propose the same for this article. The World Heavyweight Championship, though different titles, many promotions recognize their World Heavyweight Championship as such. Even the original World Heavyweight Championship. So to distinct, this is WWE version, we make it clear that this is the WWE version. By having it around (), we know that it's not part of the official title as the company call it, just to distinct the different version. Not that it matter much anymore since this title is merge as the WWE World Heavyweight Championship, but I think for historical purpose. What do you guys think? -- Seasrmar ( talk) 21:07, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Is Brock Lesnar technically the last person to have held the gold championship belt? They did give him a new title belt like they did with Triple H. That should be mention in the article. Gochyooo ( talk) 05:01, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I replaced the prose text with a concise and easy to read table without removing any information. The edit was reverted without comment. Is there any reason a table shouldn't be used to quickly convey the title's switching between brands? Ozdarka ( talk) 07:01, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
The article currently states Big Show has the shortest reign at 45 seconds. But if the title was retired as soon as it was unified with the WWE title, then that would make Orton's last reign even shorter, over as soon as it started. Does anyone have a source on how long this reign was supposed to have lasted? Ozdarka ( talk) 06:57, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
The WHC was retired years ago. There is no overlap between the belts. Also, no rational person would be able to confuse "WWE Universal" with "World Heavyweight" since the names are completely different. The WCW, ECW and USWA world titles were also contested in WWE - should we list those under "not to be confused" as well?
Removed, obviously. 185.54.163.137 ( talk) 03:38, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
You have been warned, reported and warned several times to stop removing. They are there for a reason Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ( talk) 03:55, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
I remember it being so good that it's my favorite cash in 102.187.74.174 ( talk) 11:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
So Triple H just announced the reboot of this championship with a new look. Are we keeping this page or making a new âWWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIPâ page Trethezeldafan ( talk) 01:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Maybe the design is brand new but letâs be honest itâs still paying homage to the Big Gold Belt haha. Why do I feel like this probably wonât even be fully answered if both titles are related Trethezeldafan ( talk) 02:02, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:SNOW oppose. Much too soon for this. ( closed by non-admin page mover) â Czello ( music) 12:01, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
World Heavyweight Championship (WWE) â World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2002â2013) â On this past Monday on WWE Raw, Triple H opened a new WHC title. - St3095 (?) 15:17, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that this article done by the USA Network often at times sounds like this and the new WHC are one in the same. Also I am not good at this Wikipedia stuff I just saw the article. -- 2001:579:8440:AD0:15E6:B694:1A7E:7A11 ( talk) 21:48, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
message regarding the fact.its a revival. https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/05/22/how-wwe-will-view-world-heavyweight-championship-in-company-history/ Crash Underride (mobile) ( talk) 18:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Procedural close. World Heavyweight Championship (WWE) was moved to World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2002â2013) by editor Vjmlhds, and after was converted from a redirect to a dab page. The second proposal was moved to World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2023âpresent). Looks like all were in agreement about this, yet any editor can open a fresh move request at any time. P.I. Ellsworthâ, ed. put'er there 00:02, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
â It has been established that there are now 2 distinct World Heavyweight Championships as the new one doesn't follow the lineage of the 2002 version. Thus, the (WWE) dab of the 2002 version's article is now redundant, but I cannot choose of a proper dab. Could it be (WWE, 2002â2013) or (WWE, original), or something else better? For the (New) dab of the current version's article, it's just plain bad and more redundant (there's no mention of WWE in the title), so that page should be moved as well with a name similar to what would be decided for the 2002 article. Engr. Smitty Werben 22:59, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Disambiguators should include "WWE", because there are multiple pro wrestling companies, and multiple sports, with World Heavyweight Championships, so including the WWE name as part of the disambiguation is 100% needed. Beyond that, to disambiguate between the 2002â2013 title and the new 2023 title, well, do what o just did in that sentence: use the dates. So World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2002â2013) and World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2023) should be used. Those are also in line with Wikipedia-wide disambiguation guidelines, even beyond pro wrestling. oknazevad ( talk) 05:23, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
WWE.com has retroactively titled this championship the âWorld heavyweight titleâ 8-ballmrmunchjackskellington69 ( talk) 02:44, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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On-air in the WWE, Big Show's brief reign as World Champion has been referred to as just 45 seconds in length but this is actually very inaccurate. Timing his reign from bell to bell, starting with the first bell after pinning Mark Henry and the second bell, after he got pinned by Daniel Bryan, the time totaling to 1:54 (One minute and Fifty Four Seconds). â Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.68.59.76 ( talk) 06:15, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
On the July 22nd edition of Smackdown, reigning World Heavyweight Champion Christian's belt strap seemed red from the back. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.68.59.76 ( talk) 13:21, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
If you view footage from Chris Jericho's most recent title reign onwards you will see that the World Title has undergone a slight cosmetic change. The wrestlers that use to be included as ornamental design pieces have been removed and are no longer visible on the center plate or side plates. The images on WWE.com also confirm this though not many images of the belt close-up exist. As such I feel the article needs to updated to reflect this change and a new photograph included on the main page. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.155.144 ( talk) 00:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Is it not also the former WCW title though? If it carries the lineage due to a company merger, it should technically be considered the same title. Yes, it was merged into the Undisputed title, but the WWE Championship hasn't been called that since Bischoff brought BACK the Big Gold Belt. Being that Bischoff was the head of WCW and brought it back to award to Triple H - and was treated as having the lineage of the old WCW title by WWE - should it not be considered the same title? It seems to me that Bischoff merely split it off again after the merger, at least that's what I understood back when it happened. Are there sources saying otherwise? This article doesn't really cite why that isn't the case. 50.98.154.116 ( talk) 08:26, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
one of the references ( http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/tripleh/tentimestheking/reign6match/) is now a dead link 72.200.156.118 ( talk) 16:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
The World Heavyweight Championship that has recently been carried by such greats as Batista and Triple H got its start in WWE back in 2002. But its prestigious lineage can actually be traced back all the way to George Hackenschmidt and 1904. For years, it was known as the NWA Championship; then when WCW pulled out of the NWA in the early 1990s, Ric Flair was recognized as the first-ever WCW Champion. Since that time, top names such as Hulk Hogan, Ron Simmons and Bret Hart carried the championship prior to WCW's demise.
so says the WCW title page now, also under WWE's WHC page, it has "historical photo" of old NWA & WCW champions. looks like it now carries the same lineage. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.247.87 ( talk) 03:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
"For years it was known as the NWA Championship"? A belt is NOT a title, a belt only represents a title. The original Big Gold belt only represented the NWA World Title. The NWA and it's World Title never ceast to exist and still exist to this day. MrNWA4Life 08:47 25 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not trying to rekindle an old discussion. It could very well be nothing than just a slip of the tongue. I just wonder why JR, Jerry Lawler, and Triple H refers to himself as an 11 time WWE Champion. I can understand a slip of the tongue a couple of times, but they keep saying over and over. On last night's edition of Raw, for example, both Lawler and JR said the same thing at least once each. It makes me wonder if they're now going to try to say that those 5 reigns with the World Championship are going to be consolidated with the 6 WWE Championship reigns to call him an 11 time WWE Champion. I might be paranoid, but I think of the times that WWE has rewritten history, regardless of how piss poor and senseless it is, to reflect a certain view for a storyline. Sounds like something that they'd do. Odin's Beard ( talk) 23:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Triple H is in fact now a 12 time World Champion. 7 times with the WWE Championship and 5 times with the World Heavyweight. They are equivalent in prestige and so the title reigns are added together. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.208.18 ( talk) 22:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I was just at the show in Atlantic City tonight, and Vickie stripped Taker of the belt. Do we update this now or when it airs? Linknumbers ( talk) 03:54, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Not being allowed to update this page until Smackdown airs somewhere is all bollocks. This is an encyclopedia, it's job is to report fact. And the fact is that Undertaker is no longer World Heavyweight Champion. Doesn't matter when it airs, fact is fact. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.208.18 ( talk) 22:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Then use a reliable source. There are many websites out there that provide the reliable source so we can update this page. www.gerweck.net and www.wrestlingrevealed.com will both confirm that Vicki Guerrero stripped the Undertaker of the World Title. There's your reliable source now can someone please update this page? âPreceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.184.35 ( talk) 13:18, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
What is with all of this fannying around. Will someone who has access to this page please update it? The fact is that Undertaker is no longer World Champion and you are mocking the idea of an encyclopedia. We allno the truth, we know it's not a lie and of course dirtsheets are reliable sources. Now will you all pull your head out of your arses and get on with it? âPreceding unsigned comment added by DannyChaos23 ( talk ⢠contribs) 22:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Let's also remember back in 1990 when The Rockers beat the Hart Foundation for the World Tag Team Titles during a taping of Saturday Night's Main Event. That match ended up being left off of the broadcast, and the title change was never acknowledged. In my opinion, title changes shouldn't be added to Wikipedia until they air on television. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.146.137 ( talk) 07:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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How will we do this? List who comes out on top at the end and then mention how many times the title changed hands in the match? Because I think that matters since every time someone is pinned they are recognized as World Champion for that brief period and while they may or not be champion at the end there were title changes in that period. SuperSonicTH ( talk) 02:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
guy who comes out last is the real official champion. The note section will be enough. I doubt the belt will change more than 3 times.-- Will C 03:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Do you really have to say the design was "replaced"? The belts are near identical, except for the wwe logo..
Shouldn't The Rock be known for the first World Heavyweight Champion? Does anyone not remember when the Alliance lost at Survivor Series '01 The Rock still held before then the WCW Championship, but after SS it was referred as the World Heavyweight Champion until it was merged with the WWF Championship at Vengeance '01. âPreceding unsigned comment added by Killa Koz ( talk ⢠contribs) 04:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
There's no more "Current Champion" section? SuperSonicTH ( talk) 03:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
At the following link, they refer to the title as the WWE World Heavyweight Title.
http://corporate.wwe.com/news/2004/2004_10_05.jsp
On the same page, they refer to the Intercontinental Title as the WWE Intercontinental Title. On the title history page of the WWE website, they refer to both titles without the WWE prefix.
http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/worldheavyweight/
So with that said, on Wikipedia, I believe that both pages should be name in the same manner. Either both should say, "WWE Title Name", or both should say, "Title Name (WWE)".
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Shouldn't it be mentioned that the title was called the World Championship, omitting the word "heavyweight" during Rey Mysterio's reign? Tommyferrellhc08 ( talk) 04:46, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I timed his reign, starting when the bell was rang after the ladder match, and ending with the bell ringing in the MitB match. His reign was 3 minutes and 8 seconds. The statistics section says that his reign is 2 minutes. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 122.3.251.100 ( talk) 07:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Im sorry but under the descrpition of the belts history it say that the World Heavyweight Championship is the successor to the NWA and WCW Championships. I don't think this should be in it due to the fact that it holds a different lineage and therefore it can be confusing to say its the "successor". Thoughts? Approval of removing that statement? âPreceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 ( talk) 04:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Exactly. Fact of the matter is the NWA never ceast to exist and still exists to this day âPreceding unsigned comment added by 173.123.53.88 ( talk) 12:43, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Who wrote that Morrison was champ, i am reverting it back to Jeff. âPreceding unsigned comment added by ShanRaj 10 ( talk ⢠contribs) 02:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Jeff Hardy ChampÄąons Ulan âPreceding unsigned comment added by 78.180.74.165 ( talk) 12:50, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Although the photo description of the current World Heavyweight Championship design in the article stated that design is introduced in March 2003 but when I was watching Survivor Series 2002 (which took place Live on November 17 2002) on VCD I saw Triple H (with Ric Flair) was interviewed backstage by Marc Lyold, Triple H was wearing the "2003" and current design of the World Heavyweight Championship.
Any wikipedian who owned a copy of the Survivor Series 2002 DVD can see the belt's centerplate flashing the WWE's logo on the upper curve of its centerplate while looking closely at that title belt while watching that interview and change the belt's current design intro date. Kyrios320 ( talk) 03:02, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
undertaker is not the oldest champ cause king booker is older than him. also undertaker was 42 when he first won the wch title not 44. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 68.205.115.157 ( talk) 23:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
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this statement seems to have been added and does not make sence ......either it needs to be removed or explained ...cos i dont know if its an acronym or a username â Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.98.80.104 ( talk) 17:30, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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With the unification match at TLC, should it be noted that Cena is technically the final World Heavyweight Champion? Jedi Striker ( talk) 19:25, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
Strangely enough, it's on the list of retired championships. http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/retired-championships â Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.209.139.83 ( talk) 12:16, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Maybe today at RAW, WWE will help us. We can wait a few hours. -- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 16:15, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
I think it's a fairly safe conclusion to make now that the WHC is retired. The website officially declares it, and now Raw made only reference to there being one title, which is the "WWE World Heavyweight Championship". Yes, Orton is lugging around the Big Gold Belt, but that belt has represented many titles in its time. Remember, after all, that when Jericho unified the WCW title and the WWF title, he still carried both belts around for a few months. It seems to me that, for the time being, the single title is being represented by two belts, just as the undisputed championship was. I think that, unless a reliable source says anything to the contrary, it's now safe to assume that the WHC is no more. â Richard BB 08:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
This article contains this sentence ""Its heritage can be traced back to the first world heavyweight championship, thereby giving the belt a legacy over 100 years' old, the oldest in the world.""
How in the world can this title be traced back to the first world championship? How can this be the oldest championship in the world? Especially since the NWA World Title has actually existed since 1948, and this belt was only born in 2002. The belt design itself only goes back to the 80s.
I know there are a few WWE revisionist history statements out there, but I believe that if wikipedia is a truly accurate page, then someone needs to actual proof that this belt is the oldest belt in the world, especially since the NWA title still exists... and it is the oldest belt. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.16.120.232 ( talk) 00:34, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
I propose a slight modification of the article title name. From the current World Heavyweight Champion (WWE) to World Heavyweight Championship (WWE version). I've proposed similar for similar articles that featured disputed title names. They're disputed whether two or more promotions has similar names for a title or one promotion recognition it with a name that another promotion. For example, see the Inoki Genome Federation (IGF) article about the International Grand Prix Wrestling (IGPW) Heavyweight Championship. The IGPW Heavyweight belongs to New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW). IGF previously had a version of that belt which it (and TNA) also recognized as the IGPW Heavyweight Championship. I proposed that the IGF version has the notation IGF version by it. This is similar to how the multiple version of the NWA World Tag Team Championship has their version by it. I like to propose the same for this article. The World Heavyweight Championship, though different titles, many promotions recognize their World Heavyweight Championship as such. Even the original World Heavyweight Championship. So to distinct, this is WWE version, we make it clear that this is the WWE version. By having it around (), we know that it's not part of the official title as the company call it, just to distinct the different version. Not that it matter much anymore since this title is merge as the WWE World Heavyweight Championship, but I think for historical purpose. What do you guys think? -- Seasrmar ( talk) 21:07, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Is Brock Lesnar technically the last person to have held the gold championship belt? They did give him a new title belt like they did with Triple H. That should be mention in the article. Gochyooo ( talk) 05:01, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I replaced the prose text with a concise and easy to read table without removing any information. The edit was reverted without comment. Is there any reason a table shouldn't be used to quickly convey the title's switching between brands? Ozdarka ( talk) 07:01, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
The article currently states Big Show has the shortest reign at 45 seconds. But if the title was retired as soon as it was unified with the WWE title, then that would make Orton's last reign even shorter, over as soon as it started. Does anyone have a source on how long this reign was supposed to have lasted? Ozdarka ( talk) 06:57, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
The WHC was retired years ago. There is no overlap between the belts. Also, no rational person would be able to confuse "WWE Universal" with "World Heavyweight" since the names are completely different. The WCW, ECW and USWA world titles were also contested in WWE - should we list those under "not to be confused" as well?
Removed, obviously. 185.54.163.137 ( talk) 03:38, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
You have been warned, reported and warned several times to stop removing. They are there for a reason Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ( talk) 03:55, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
I remember it being so good that it's my favorite cash in 102.187.74.174 ( talk) 11:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
So Triple H just announced the reboot of this championship with a new look. Are we keeping this page or making a new âWWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIPâ page Trethezeldafan ( talk) 01:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Maybe the design is brand new but letâs be honest itâs still paying homage to the Big Gold Belt haha. Why do I feel like this probably wonât even be fully answered if both titles are related Trethezeldafan ( talk) 02:02, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:SNOW oppose. Much too soon for this. ( closed by non-admin page mover) â Czello ( music) 12:01, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
World Heavyweight Championship (WWE) â World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2002â2013) â On this past Monday on WWE Raw, Triple H opened a new WHC title. - St3095 (?) 15:17, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that this article done by the USA Network often at times sounds like this and the new WHC are one in the same. Also I am not good at this Wikipedia stuff I just saw the article. -- 2001:579:8440:AD0:15E6:B694:1A7E:7A11 ( talk) 21:48, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
message regarding the fact.its a revival. https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/05/22/how-wwe-will-view-world-heavyweight-championship-in-company-history/ Crash Underride (mobile) ( talk) 18:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Procedural close. World Heavyweight Championship (WWE) was moved to World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2002â2013) by editor Vjmlhds, and after was converted from a redirect to a dab page. The second proposal was moved to World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2023âpresent). Looks like all were in agreement about this, yet any editor can open a fresh move request at any time. P.I. Ellsworthâ, ed. put'er there 00:02, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
â It has been established that there are now 2 distinct World Heavyweight Championships as the new one doesn't follow the lineage of the 2002 version. Thus, the (WWE) dab of the 2002 version's article is now redundant, but I cannot choose of a proper dab. Could it be (WWE, 2002â2013) or (WWE, original), or something else better? For the (New) dab of the current version's article, it's just plain bad and more redundant (there's no mention of WWE in the title), so that page should be moved as well with a name similar to what would be decided for the 2002 article. Engr. Smitty Werben 22:59, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Disambiguators should include "WWE", because there are multiple pro wrestling companies, and multiple sports, with World Heavyweight Championships, so including the WWE name as part of the disambiguation is 100% needed. Beyond that, to disambiguate between the 2002â2013 title and the new 2023 title, well, do what o just did in that sentence: use the dates. So World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2002â2013) and World Heavyweight Championship (WWE, 2023) should be used. Those are also in line with Wikipedia-wide disambiguation guidelines, even beyond pro wrestling. oknazevad ( talk) 05:23, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
WWE.com has retroactively titled this championship the âWorld heavyweight titleâ 8-ballmrmunchjackskellington69 ( talk) 02:44, 3 June 2023 (UTC)