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In the related article [Women in the military], though lacking an RS (I've asked for one in Talk), a statement is made that some countries "permit women to fill active combat roles, including Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Italy, Germany, Norway, Israel, Serbia, Sweden and Switzerland." I think this article would benefit from such analysis, provided RSs can be found for each country. Just a thought. -- Robapalooza ( talk) 16:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
I see ZERO mention of the fact (AFAIK) that women have to pass DIFFERENT (and less stringent) physical tests to graduate basic in US Army. I see zero mention of sex, sex drives, sexual competition, birth control, prostitution, sexual favors, preferential treatment, and sex based conflicts. I see zero mention of the increased complexity of team management. Pregnancy. Health issues. Logistical and economic issues. Family & parenting issues. Sexual abuse. Last I heard we are an extremely sex obsessed species. It is biology I refer to. Ignoring the elephant in the room is not objective. 71.31.146.16 ( talk) 20:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
What a polemical and exaggerated post. Just because he disagrees with you that doesn't make him a misogynist. 86.43.164.17 ( talk) 14:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
I concur. Add the "non-PC" difering testing requirements then, and we will support you. Zezen ( talk) 11:59, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Partyclams, please refrain from ad hominem attacts in the future just because you do not agree with someone. Casting a doubt on someone's character and personal attributes and calling them misogynistic will not discredit their argument. 147.129.141.12 ( talk) 19:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
This article focuses entirely on arguments as to why women shouldn't serve in combat, disregarding the historical fact that many women HAVE successfully served in combat throughout the history of time, sometimes in disguise as men, sometimes as Queens leading troops, even in modern times as ground troops, etc. It presents the arguments against women's presence in combat without really properly examining the counter-arguments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.7.205 ( talk) 21:07, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
I think one of the problems is the lack of evidence of a direct benefit that overwhelms the logistical and managerial costs of such a change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.53.208.18 ( talk) 16:01, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
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There are literal "source brackets" ([1][2] and such) in the Pakistan section that aren't actually sources. So this entire section has no sources. Phiarc ( talk) 12:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
so.. the center for readiness is explicitly POV source- which is okay but you gotta note that- they are a group solely motivated to stop women and LGBT people from being able to enroll in the american army. I cite your own page on it: The Center for Military Readiness is a tax-exempt, non-profit organization founded by Elaine Donnelly, which !opposes the service of gay and transgender people and favors limiting the positions open to women in the United States military!.
It has been described as a right-wing organisation by the SPLC and other sources.
So their "study" is clearly one that not very good science, after all it was made with the intent to prove the foregone conclusion that women shouldn't be part of active military. its reasonable to assume, that said "study" would exclude and ignore any results that would run opposite to their own goals. there also are two people who accuse her of intentionally misrepresenting a report- one was a lawyer btw- sadly the validity of that isn't really verifiable.. So.. I think using her org as a source? sure, but note that they arent neutral, but openly ideologically motivated as well as homophobe & transphobes closely corraborating with other well known right wingers like the schlafly's — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.135.99.9 ( talk) 20:14, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
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In the section " [h]istory", there's this sentence:
During the First World War, first ever woman officer was enlisted for military service – Olena Stepaniv.
I think "Ukraine's" should come before "first". Could anyone please tell me if it should? Thylacine24 ( talk) 23:32, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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In the related article [Women in the military], though lacking an RS (I've asked for one in Talk), a statement is made that some countries "permit women to fill active combat roles, including Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Italy, Germany, Norway, Israel, Serbia, Sweden and Switzerland." I think this article would benefit from such analysis, provided RSs can be found for each country. Just a thought. -- Robapalooza ( talk) 16:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
I see ZERO mention of the fact (AFAIK) that women have to pass DIFFERENT (and less stringent) physical tests to graduate basic in US Army. I see zero mention of sex, sex drives, sexual competition, birth control, prostitution, sexual favors, preferential treatment, and sex based conflicts. I see zero mention of the increased complexity of team management. Pregnancy. Health issues. Logistical and economic issues. Family & parenting issues. Sexual abuse. Last I heard we are an extremely sex obsessed species. It is biology I refer to. Ignoring the elephant in the room is not objective. 71.31.146.16 ( talk) 20:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
What a polemical and exaggerated post. Just because he disagrees with you that doesn't make him a misogynist. 86.43.164.17 ( talk) 14:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
I concur. Add the "non-PC" difering testing requirements then, and we will support you. Zezen ( talk) 11:59, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Partyclams, please refrain from ad hominem attacts in the future just because you do not agree with someone. Casting a doubt on someone's character and personal attributes and calling them misogynistic will not discredit their argument. 147.129.141.12 ( talk) 19:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
This article focuses entirely on arguments as to why women shouldn't serve in combat, disregarding the historical fact that many women HAVE successfully served in combat throughout the history of time, sometimes in disguise as men, sometimes as Queens leading troops, even in modern times as ground troops, etc. It presents the arguments against women's presence in combat without really properly examining the counter-arguments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.7.205 ( talk) 21:07, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
I think one of the problems is the lack of evidence of a direct benefit that overwhelms the logistical and managerial costs of such a change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.53.208.18 ( talk) 16:01, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
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There are literal "source brackets" ([1][2] and such) in the Pakistan section that aren't actually sources. So this entire section has no sources. Phiarc ( talk) 12:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
so.. the center for readiness is explicitly POV source- which is okay but you gotta note that- they are a group solely motivated to stop women and LGBT people from being able to enroll in the american army. I cite your own page on it: The Center for Military Readiness is a tax-exempt, non-profit organization founded by Elaine Donnelly, which !opposes the service of gay and transgender people and favors limiting the positions open to women in the United States military!.
It has been described as a right-wing organisation by the SPLC and other sources.
So their "study" is clearly one that not very good science, after all it was made with the intent to prove the foregone conclusion that women shouldn't be part of active military. its reasonable to assume, that said "study" would exclude and ignore any results that would run opposite to their own goals. there also are two people who accuse her of intentionally misrepresenting a report- one was a lawyer btw- sadly the validity of that isn't really verifiable.. So.. I think using her org as a source? sure, but note that they arent neutral, but openly ideologically motivated as well as homophobe & transphobes closely corraborating with other well known right wingers like the schlafly's — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.135.99.9 ( talk) 20:14, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
"... in more depth below." I don't know who you are, but I see what you did there, and it made me smile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassandratoday ( talk • contribs) 18:07, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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In the section " [h]istory", there's this sentence:
During the First World War, first ever woman officer was enlisted for military service – Olena Stepaniv.
I think "Ukraine's" should come before "first". Could anyone please tell me if it should? Thylacine24 ( talk) 23:32, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Details about the topic 2409:4051:2E0D:B525:0:0:1249:470B ( talk) 06:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)