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Abolishing use of the term "Aviatrix" is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation#Aviatrix. You are invited to contribute to the discussion. — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 18:41, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
In the early days of aerial exploration, were there female balloonists? What about the "wing-dancers", who performed for public entertainment on the outside of those tiny early planes?
The article contains fascinating examples, but it's so bitty. Would it be better to divide the content by decade, by country, by civil/military, or how? Carbon Caryatid ( talk) 15:43, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Adding some unsourced material here. Some other material I am moving to Timeline of women in aviation since it would be more appropriate there. Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 01:36, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Pakistan Ms Shukrya Khanum became a pioneer by receiving her Commercial Licence in 60s [clarification needed] closely followed by Ms Maliha Sami and Ms Aysha, they were both inducted by PIA as commercial flyers. Capt Natasha Sami who is the fourth female pilot in the history of Pakistan, then moved on to become the first female to have received the Airline Transport Pilot's Licence in the country's history.
Is there room for Lucy, Lady Houston? She was the "saviour of the Spitfire", as patriot and philanthropist. Carbon Caryatid ( talk) 23:08, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
There is a section in the article titled "Sexism" which states "Women often had to work hard to prove themselves as capable as men in the field."
I have two issues with this:
1) The title of the section is itself highly biased, because from the start it is implying the restrictions or hurdles of women in aviation was all due to "sexism", which is itself a very loaded and ambiguous term, rather than some quite valid socio-cultural or practical reasons (especially in keeping women from combat aviation roles, and combat roles in general).
2) The fact that women pilots worked hard to prove their capability is not in dispute. What is flat out incorrect is that they ever proved themselves to be just as capable as male combat pilots, which they did not, and have not. A tiny few have proved their capability and skill to be combat pilots, but no where close to being of equal ability as the top male pilots. The biological differences simply will not allow us to see female pilots as capable or perform the same feats as the remarkable Japanese and American combat pilots in the Pacific War for example. 67.70.11.121 ( talk) 12:34, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 04:58, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Abolishing use of the term "Aviatrix" is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation#Aviatrix. You are invited to contribute to the discussion. — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 18:41, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
In the early days of aerial exploration, were there female balloonists? What about the "wing-dancers", who performed for public entertainment on the outside of those tiny early planes?
The article contains fascinating examples, but it's so bitty. Would it be better to divide the content by decade, by country, by civil/military, or how? Carbon Caryatid ( talk) 15:43, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Adding some unsourced material here. Some other material I am moving to Timeline of women in aviation since it would be more appropriate there. Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 01:36, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Pakistan Ms Shukrya Khanum became a pioneer by receiving her Commercial Licence in 60s [clarification needed] closely followed by Ms Maliha Sami and Ms Aysha, they were both inducted by PIA as commercial flyers. Capt Natasha Sami who is the fourth female pilot in the history of Pakistan, then moved on to become the first female to have received the Airline Transport Pilot's Licence in the country's history.
Is there room for Lucy, Lady Houston? She was the "saviour of the Spitfire", as patriot and philanthropist. Carbon Caryatid ( talk) 23:08, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
There is a section in the article titled "Sexism" which states "Women often had to work hard to prove themselves as capable as men in the field."
I have two issues with this:
1) The title of the section is itself highly biased, because from the start it is implying the restrictions or hurdles of women in aviation was all due to "sexism", which is itself a very loaded and ambiguous term, rather than some quite valid socio-cultural or practical reasons (especially in keeping women from combat aviation roles, and combat roles in general).
2) The fact that women pilots worked hard to prove their capability is not in dispute. What is flat out incorrect is that they ever proved themselves to be just as capable as male combat pilots, which they did not, and have not. A tiny few have proved their capability and skill to be combat pilots, but no where close to being of equal ability as the top male pilots. The biological differences simply will not allow us to see female pilots as capable or perform the same feats as the remarkable Japanese and American combat pilots in the Pacific War for example. 67.70.11.121 ( talk) 12:34, 1 December 2021 (UTC)