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To anyone who's interested--this was done to correct the terminology, references, and url references for the site 'Women in Refrigerators' (as the term was originally coined). No offense was intended to the creators of the original 'Girlfriend-in-Refrigerators-Syndrome' entry. Significant portions of the entry have been incorporated into the new entry, along with several corrections, and some historical background for the term and the site that was created in support of it. Hopefully, this will be alright with everyone involved. Thanks for your time! Fcr 07:00, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Impressive. Really well sourced. Onomatopoeia 16:41, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Speaking as someone who, had I been in on the debate of termination for this page back in January probably woulda said delete, I am pleased with the outcome of this entry after such debate. Predominantly because of the relative significance of Gwen Stacy mentioned in the article. Personally I have never heard this "Girlfriends In Refrigerators" meme before. My instinct is to say this is mislabelled, and the proper reference usage should be in deference to Gwen Stacy. Though not the earliest example, hers was the earliest culturally significant example toward this abuse of women in graphic storytelling. Whenever I see a female character killed or maimed for purpose of plotline, I have always called it a "Gwen" in honor of Spidey's first gf, and it's easy to see that it happens all too often in modern storytelling, even after the equal rights movement of the 1960s. As a contributor to MetaFilter once pointed out, "Find me a comic book character (male or female) that hasn't had some pretty f'ed up things happen to them." I guess the "gf in fridge" meme is due to its significance to the younger generations and I'm just showing my age, but the phenomenon actually predates even Spider-Man, and can arguably be more attributed to the end result of a failed "Damsel In Distress" plotline. If Dudley Doright is unable to Save his Penelope from the evil Snidely Whiplash, the end result would most certainly me maimness or death. I question whether this meme is not just a result of the younger audience not being well educated on the history of the comic book medium and other mediums that have inspired it. Still, this is a well written and edited article. ZachsMind 16:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
What's this about Rachel Summers being "lobotomized"? There's no mention of such an event in her own article, and I don't remember it. She's also possibly the most powerful telepath in the Marvel universe, which would be quite impossible for somebody who's been lobotomized. 71.236.33.191 18:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
First of all, the statement is false. Neither character was returned to their original heroic state. Jason Todd was brought back as a brutal killer. Bucky is currently alive, but was brought back by being turned into a brainwashed Soviet terrorist. He was eventually cured, but the character is by no means anywhere near his original state and probably can't be used any more except as a traumatized wreck.
Second, the sentence is obviously trying to imply that bringing back Jason Todd and Bucky somehow disproves the original statement about male characters being as badly treated. You aren't allowed to draw a conclusion yourself--that is prohibited as original research, and you can't get around this by just making leading statements to get the reader to make the conclusion instead. Even if both characters were brought back as heroes (which, as shown above, is not true), that would not imply that the original statement was false unless similarly-situated female characters were not also brought back.
This is actually one of the most biased articles I've seen. In this case the bias happens by selectively quoting sources that present WiR's claims nearly uncritically. This works because comic book reference sources are not typically carried by libraries or otherwise available for research, so about the only people who can contribute to the article are those who initiated the controversy or have been following it for some time and already have their sources on hand. Even the link to the Dead Men Defrosting rebuttal is not actually a link to the original source, but to a WiR rebuttal of the rebuttal. Ken Arromdee 00:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
First of all, the statement is trying to draw a conclusion that is not in any reference source. That is original research. Just because it's trying to imply the conclusion by juxtaposition rather than stating it outright doesn't change this. And as for your "better tact", I already covered this. The problem is that the kinds of sources used in this article are inherently hard to find. I can't just go to a library, look up Women in Refrigerators in the Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature, find a reference, walk to the shelf, and pick up a few magazines about comics. All but a very few people are not equipped to add anything to this article; the research can't be done. Ken Arromdee 13:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I edited the the section on Gwen Stacy to reword the phrase "editorial mandate". This phrase makes it sound as though the editor of Amazing Spider-Man dictated to the writer that he must kill off the character. However, this does not match the accompanying reference. Rather, the referenced webpage indicates that the writer made the decision to kill off the character (at the artist's suggestion) and this idea was supported by the editor. Granted, the source indicates that untenable editorial restrictions influenced the "authorial cowardice", but this is distinct from an "editorial mandate". After an unsatisfactory first attempt, I have now changed it to read "editorial reasons". Not much different, I know, but I think it more accurately reflects the source. -- GentlemanGhost 00:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Steve Trevor was gratutioustly killed offed one year before Gwen Stacy was, if not more. 03:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)Enda80
I remember viewing the site years ago and seeing a section which used writer/artist John Byrne was used as an example of someone who consistantly uses the Women in Refrigerators plot device. Somewhere along the line this part of the website was deleted. Does anyone know why this was the case and should this be included in the main article? Artemisboy 22:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I believe this is faulty memory. There are several archives of the original site, none of which contain references to John Byrne. So, unless a link can be found (or someone who either knew the original creators or WAS one of the original creators) creates a reference, it isn't appropriate to keep including this. Fcr ( talk) 02:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I undid the recent (January) move of this article to Women in Refrigerators (comics). As there is no other notable article or topic with this name, disambiguation is unnecessary. -- GentlemanGhost 12:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Could editors who work on this page please take the time to CITE their statements? There was a long process to even keep this article on Wikipedia that involved lots of reasoned debate and a considerable number of citing of sources. It's become disheartening to check in on the article from time to time and find more and more unsourced material creeping in. PLEASE cite your sources! Fcr 03:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
"In an interview with Wizard magazine, Marz said that censorship made this scene far more horrific than he had intended it to be; DC edited the panel in question so that the refrigerator door was slightly ajar (as opposed to completely open), only partially revealing Alex's limbs, which led many fans to assume that she had been dismembered (and subsequently to ask Marz if this was indeed the case)." - citation?
"However, in the latter instance, Mike Grell, writer of that scene, has stated repeatedly that Dinah Lance, the Black Canary was never raped; this is only an assumption many fans make." - citation? Fcr 05:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
The same is true of the opposite in some cases. - The female hero's boyfriends getting killed/mutilated. For example, I've heard mention of the female lead in Stargate SG-1, Samantha Carter being referred to as 'Black Widow Carter' due to her succession of male love interests that get killed and mutilated in all sorts of nasty ways. NomaDanine —Preceding comment was added at 00:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Would the attacking e.g. of a female sidekick (Like what happened to Jubilee couint as an example of this? Emma Hordika ( talk) 15:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)( P.S. Women in Refridgerators Stinks)
As this B-Class article has yet to receive a review, it has been rated as C-Class. If you disagree and would like to request an assesment, please visit Wikipedia:WikiProject_Comics/Assessment#Requesting_an_assessment and list the article. Hiding T 14:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Re: The metatextual part. Seems original research to me. Hal hates Major Force for many reasons; one because he killed his friend's girlfriend in the fridge. Smashing MF with a ring-created fridge would be irony to him, a logical extension of the story's circumstances. As for Bulleteer, her house guest went evil and attacked her. Most houses have fridges. Lots42 ( talk) 12:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
You forgot to mention the original depowerment of several Golden and Silver-Age female comics characters. One was WONDER WOMAN of the late 60s. (1) Diana Prince looses her powers through some infraction of conduct in Amazon law. She is also exiled, and loses her memory and ability at martial arts. While her title comic book continued for a couple of years, she acquired a fabulouse contemorary wardrobe(all white, in which she had to do battle in,) a mostly noir and supernatural theme to all her stories; and a strange little china-man who trained her to regain much of her mortal physical ability and confidence. (These changes had the editors desired effect of forcing Wonder Woman out of the JUSTICE LEAGUE roster for much of the 70s.) (2)Supergirl. Linda Danvers' superpowers go awry and leaves her sporadically super-charged (This was in tandem with the Jack Kirby-inspired powering-down of Superman in the early 70s. The appparent vunerability of Supergirl made for some pretty adult story-lines for that era, taking the character out of her rather goofy malaise. Oh, and yes, she also obtains a rack of racey, provocative new costumes. (3) Black Canary. It had seemed confusing whether or not Dinah Drake retained her "carnary scream" power. She still seemed to have them in the Justice League (of whom she, and Zatana filled the immeasurable void left by Wonder Woman). Dinah seemed too pre-occupied playing nurse-maid to the increasingly self-destructive Oliver Queen and Roy Harper to be an effective crime -fighter. (Actually many would figure that Ms. Drake would have been so fed-up with these two misfits, she could have comtemplated suicide and put herself in a refrigrator to be discovered by the two just to spite them for the misery they caused her). (4)Bat-Girl. Albeit, in the late 70s and 80s, Babs Gordon is made an invalid by the Joker. Before that, her responsibilities as congresswoman limted her activities. (5)Wonder Girl. along with the 70s "TEEN TITANS",Donna Troy, as traumatized as the rest of her team-mates over an unstoppable political assasination, decides to retire from super-heroics and takes up with her co-horts to become social workers(?) (6)Giant-Girl(of the original"DOOM PATROL"). After their demise by their arch-foe, she is the only one who never returns from death, as inexplicably all the males do. (7) Duo Damsel(formerly TRIPLET GIRL). Well, that'll teach ya: The price of getting too romantically involved with either Superboy, or Lar Gand (Mon-El)is DEATH (of multiple personalities)!!! (8) Sue Richards' pregnacy need not be reviewed here, although in hindsight I wonder if the editors at Marvel weren't reacting to the late 60s Young Republicans\Nixon backlash of the so-called femmensit movement. I would also put "THE WASP" in thsi category. I didn't read enough of her comics to find out why she seemed to "fade away" as the 60 wer coming to a close. (9)HAWKGIRL. Strained under the shadow of her husband. (10)Finally, Electra and the Black Widow. I lump these two because they haven't been given their propers either among female characters. One was killed off then brought back in posthumous, narrative retrospective. The latter never achieving the status of full vigilante. The only exception to this neudering of female characters was (11)LOIS LANE. In fact being that she never had any powers to begin with placed her in a rather unique advantagefor an upgrade as an action character. The persuit and death of her young sister, Lucy, sends Lois into a spiralling fugue state in which she rejects Superman, quits her job at the Daily Planet, walks on the rain-soaked streets of Metropolis in a daze, gets mugged in an alley, but is instantly delivered by three bouty-licous "liberated babes" who later offer her food, lodging, and companionship. She then emerges as a crusading free-lance vigilante-reporter (in hot pants and platform-spiked shoes, I might add,) kicking butt, but still still snubbing Superman. That series' plotline also ran a couple of years, and I'll bet JACK KIRBY had a hand in this also as the plot-lines intersected his "fouth world' revison at DC comics. So, there you have it. the "GIRL-IN-THE-REFRIGERATOR" PHEMNOMENA would seem almost a staple in comics as 'cops and robbers! [[Special:Contribution] ( User talk) 02:03, 5 February 2011 (UTC) 173.2.115.68 ( talk) 02:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)Veryverser
So is this topic on women killed or depowered or women killed or depowered to further a male character's story? The article is contradictory. Lots42 ( talk) 12:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
I've read through all the comments on the WiR site and none of the comic creators accused her of feminism. Better source?-- 96.25.191.170 ( talk) 23:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
I deleted the phrase "The practice of treating female characters in this manner is contrasted with the work of writers who are felt to exhibit feminist sensibilities, such as Joss Whedon." seeing as the link is dead and the statement is more opinion than fact. 99.67.238.57 ( talk) 17:06, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Per one of the creators of WIR (Beau Yarbrough), the website has moved from http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/ to http://www.lby3.com/wir/. I do not have privilege to edit the page, though (not enough edits). DanCrank ( talk) 16:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Done Fcr ( talk) 18:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Could you please change the link in the summary/overview section as well? DanCrank ( talk) 18:34, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Should Anita Sarkeesian aka FeministFrequincy represent this trope.-- 106.69.187.23 ( talk) 12:57, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
It has been suggested to merge this article here but there seems to be no discussion set up here - anyone care to comment?-- 🍺 Antiqueight confer 10:21, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Is there a reason Robert Harris is singled out in § Notable alumni? For that matter, is there a reason the section discusses him at all? Judging by what’s written there, outside the site he’s only notable for a minor fan-submitted Marvel character. If I’m wrong to remove the paragraph, please improve it with answers to these questions. Thanks. — 67.14.236.50 ( talk) 00:12, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Gang.
I removed this paragraph:
The frequent violence against female characters has led many people who? to ask for a change in the way female characters are written and portrayed. These people who? have expressed the desire for female characters to serve in a more active role in stories, as well as not be subject to such displays of violence. [1]
I went to clean up the year-old who-tags and checked the source article. But the Guardian article that's linked does not actually say what's it's being held up as a reference for. It kind of implies it, but for the most part it's talking about a greater shift in market demographics. If the paragraph isn't referencing the Guardian article to discuss a definable group of people within the context of this phenomenon, then it probably shouldn't be here. I think the existence of both the WIR website and this article talking about it adequately conveys the fact that people are critical of the phenomenon.
Cheers!
Reve ( talk) 18:38, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
References
Two references are provided for the statement that universities list WIR content as relating to pop culture:
The first link is dead. Here's a live version of the page:
There's no indication that it's related to any university.
Here's an archived copy of the original page:
This appears to have been posted as a personal page at Washington State, which I don't think reasonably supports a claim that "universities" list this content.
Nothing on the cited "perrymoorestories.com" supports the statement regarding universities, but the "perrymoorestories.com" page is cited on the corresponding French wikipedia page https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femme_dans_le_frigo to support the statement of a connection between women in the fridge and the concept of gay death.
With at least the one statement about universities gone, some additional examples of references in mass culture would be desirable, even with the statement about the concept of gay death added. The section becomes pretty weak otherwise. Fabrickator ( talk) 00:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
As long as Fridging redirects here (as opposed to having its own article) the references in popular culture section needs substantial expansion. This is the spot on Wikipedia a reader would go for encyclopedic and thorough coverage of this phenomenon and is extensive, pervasive and substantial usage throughout films, books and so on.
The explanation for this claim being flagged as failing verification is provided in this edit summary. Fabrickator ( talk) 21:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: to be merged.. Consensus found in merging both into a singular article Women in refrigerators, with the trope article being the base. – robertsky ( talk) 07:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
– It seems to me that, after a page on the trope was created, the naming scheme became unnecessarily confusing. I believe there should be a disambiguation page between the trope and website, as they get similar pageviews. The "syndrome" part is only used off and on, but makes it sound like some kind of ailment. This would make things more clear. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 12:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 22:48, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
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To anyone who's interested--this was done to correct the terminology, references, and url references for the site 'Women in Refrigerators' (as the term was originally coined). No offense was intended to the creators of the original 'Girlfriend-in-Refrigerators-Syndrome' entry. Significant portions of the entry have been incorporated into the new entry, along with several corrections, and some historical background for the term and the site that was created in support of it. Hopefully, this will be alright with everyone involved. Thanks for your time! Fcr 07:00, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Impressive. Really well sourced. Onomatopoeia 16:41, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Speaking as someone who, had I been in on the debate of termination for this page back in January probably woulda said delete, I am pleased with the outcome of this entry after such debate. Predominantly because of the relative significance of Gwen Stacy mentioned in the article. Personally I have never heard this "Girlfriends In Refrigerators" meme before. My instinct is to say this is mislabelled, and the proper reference usage should be in deference to Gwen Stacy. Though not the earliest example, hers was the earliest culturally significant example toward this abuse of women in graphic storytelling. Whenever I see a female character killed or maimed for purpose of plotline, I have always called it a "Gwen" in honor of Spidey's first gf, and it's easy to see that it happens all too often in modern storytelling, even after the equal rights movement of the 1960s. As a contributor to MetaFilter once pointed out, "Find me a comic book character (male or female) that hasn't had some pretty f'ed up things happen to them." I guess the "gf in fridge" meme is due to its significance to the younger generations and I'm just showing my age, but the phenomenon actually predates even Spider-Man, and can arguably be more attributed to the end result of a failed "Damsel In Distress" plotline. If Dudley Doright is unable to Save his Penelope from the evil Snidely Whiplash, the end result would most certainly me maimness or death. I question whether this meme is not just a result of the younger audience not being well educated on the history of the comic book medium and other mediums that have inspired it. Still, this is a well written and edited article. ZachsMind 16:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
What's this about Rachel Summers being "lobotomized"? There's no mention of such an event in her own article, and I don't remember it. She's also possibly the most powerful telepath in the Marvel universe, which would be quite impossible for somebody who's been lobotomized. 71.236.33.191 18:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
First of all, the statement is false. Neither character was returned to their original heroic state. Jason Todd was brought back as a brutal killer. Bucky is currently alive, but was brought back by being turned into a brainwashed Soviet terrorist. He was eventually cured, but the character is by no means anywhere near his original state and probably can't be used any more except as a traumatized wreck.
Second, the sentence is obviously trying to imply that bringing back Jason Todd and Bucky somehow disproves the original statement about male characters being as badly treated. You aren't allowed to draw a conclusion yourself--that is prohibited as original research, and you can't get around this by just making leading statements to get the reader to make the conclusion instead. Even if both characters were brought back as heroes (which, as shown above, is not true), that would not imply that the original statement was false unless similarly-situated female characters were not also brought back.
This is actually one of the most biased articles I've seen. In this case the bias happens by selectively quoting sources that present WiR's claims nearly uncritically. This works because comic book reference sources are not typically carried by libraries or otherwise available for research, so about the only people who can contribute to the article are those who initiated the controversy or have been following it for some time and already have their sources on hand. Even the link to the Dead Men Defrosting rebuttal is not actually a link to the original source, but to a WiR rebuttal of the rebuttal. Ken Arromdee 00:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
First of all, the statement is trying to draw a conclusion that is not in any reference source. That is original research. Just because it's trying to imply the conclusion by juxtaposition rather than stating it outright doesn't change this. And as for your "better tact", I already covered this. The problem is that the kinds of sources used in this article are inherently hard to find. I can't just go to a library, look up Women in Refrigerators in the Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature, find a reference, walk to the shelf, and pick up a few magazines about comics. All but a very few people are not equipped to add anything to this article; the research can't be done. Ken Arromdee 13:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I edited the the section on Gwen Stacy to reword the phrase "editorial mandate". This phrase makes it sound as though the editor of Amazing Spider-Man dictated to the writer that he must kill off the character. However, this does not match the accompanying reference. Rather, the referenced webpage indicates that the writer made the decision to kill off the character (at the artist's suggestion) and this idea was supported by the editor. Granted, the source indicates that untenable editorial restrictions influenced the "authorial cowardice", but this is distinct from an "editorial mandate". After an unsatisfactory first attempt, I have now changed it to read "editorial reasons". Not much different, I know, but I think it more accurately reflects the source. -- GentlemanGhost 00:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Steve Trevor was gratutioustly killed offed one year before Gwen Stacy was, if not more. 03:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)Enda80
I remember viewing the site years ago and seeing a section which used writer/artist John Byrne was used as an example of someone who consistantly uses the Women in Refrigerators plot device. Somewhere along the line this part of the website was deleted. Does anyone know why this was the case and should this be included in the main article? Artemisboy 22:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I believe this is faulty memory. There are several archives of the original site, none of which contain references to John Byrne. So, unless a link can be found (or someone who either knew the original creators or WAS one of the original creators) creates a reference, it isn't appropriate to keep including this. Fcr ( talk) 02:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I undid the recent (January) move of this article to Women in Refrigerators (comics). As there is no other notable article or topic with this name, disambiguation is unnecessary. -- GentlemanGhost 12:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Could editors who work on this page please take the time to CITE their statements? There was a long process to even keep this article on Wikipedia that involved lots of reasoned debate and a considerable number of citing of sources. It's become disheartening to check in on the article from time to time and find more and more unsourced material creeping in. PLEASE cite your sources! Fcr 03:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
"In an interview with Wizard magazine, Marz said that censorship made this scene far more horrific than he had intended it to be; DC edited the panel in question so that the refrigerator door was slightly ajar (as opposed to completely open), only partially revealing Alex's limbs, which led many fans to assume that she had been dismembered (and subsequently to ask Marz if this was indeed the case)." - citation?
"However, in the latter instance, Mike Grell, writer of that scene, has stated repeatedly that Dinah Lance, the Black Canary was never raped; this is only an assumption many fans make." - citation? Fcr 05:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
The same is true of the opposite in some cases. - The female hero's boyfriends getting killed/mutilated. For example, I've heard mention of the female lead in Stargate SG-1, Samantha Carter being referred to as 'Black Widow Carter' due to her succession of male love interests that get killed and mutilated in all sorts of nasty ways. NomaDanine —Preceding comment was added at 00:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Would the attacking e.g. of a female sidekick (Like what happened to Jubilee couint as an example of this? Emma Hordika ( talk) 15:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)( P.S. Women in Refridgerators Stinks)
As this B-Class article has yet to receive a review, it has been rated as C-Class. If you disagree and would like to request an assesment, please visit Wikipedia:WikiProject_Comics/Assessment#Requesting_an_assessment and list the article. Hiding T 14:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Re: The metatextual part. Seems original research to me. Hal hates Major Force for many reasons; one because he killed his friend's girlfriend in the fridge. Smashing MF with a ring-created fridge would be irony to him, a logical extension of the story's circumstances. As for Bulleteer, her house guest went evil and attacked her. Most houses have fridges. Lots42 ( talk) 12:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
You forgot to mention the original depowerment of several Golden and Silver-Age female comics characters. One was WONDER WOMAN of the late 60s. (1) Diana Prince looses her powers through some infraction of conduct in Amazon law. She is also exiled, and loses her memory and ability at martial arts. While her title comic book continued for a couple of years, she acquired a fabulouse contemorary wardrobe(all white, in which she had to do battle in,) a mostly noir and supernatural theme to all her stories; and a strange little china-man who trained her to regain much of her mortal physical ability and confidence. (These changes had the editors desired effect of forcing Wonder Woman out of the JUSTICE LEAGUE roster for much of the 70s.) (2)Supergirl. Linda Danvers' superpowers go awry and leaves her sporadically super-charged (This was in tandem with the Jack Kirby-inspired powering-down of Superman in the early 70s. The appparent vunerability of Supergirl made for some pretty adult story-lines for that era, taking the character out of her rather goofy malaise. Oh, and yes, she also obtains a rack of racey, provocative new costumes. (3) Black Canary. It had seemed confusing whether or not Dinah Drake retained her "carnary scream" power. She still seemed to have them in the Justice League (of whom she, and Zatana filled the immeasurable void left by Wonder Woman). Dinah seemed too pre-occupied playing nurse-maid to the increasingly self-destructive Oliver Queen and Roy Harper to be an effective crime -fighter. (Actually many would figure that Ms. Drake would have been so fed-up with these two misfits, she could have comtemplated suicide and put herself in a refrigrator to be discovered by the two just to spite them for the misery they caused her). (4)Bat-Girl. Albeit, in the late 70s and 80s, Babs Gordon is made an invalid by the Joker. Before that, her responsibilities as congresswoman limted her activities. (5)Wonder Girl. along with the 70s "TEEN TITANS",Donna Troy, as traumatized as the rest of her team-mates over an unstoppable political assasination, decides to retire from super-heroics and takes up with her co-horts to become social workers(?) (6)Giant-Girl(of the original"DOOM PATROL"). After their demise by their arch-foe, she is the only one who never returns from death, as inexplicably all the males do. (7) Duo Damsel(formerly TRIPLET GIRL). Well, that'll teach ya: The price of getting too romantically involved with either Superboy, or Lar Gand (Mon-El)is DEATH (of multiple personalities)!!! (8) Sue Richards' pregnacy need not be reviewed here, although in hindsight I wonder if the editors at Marvel weren't reacting to the late 60s Young Republicans\Nixon backlash of the so-called femmensit movement. I would also put "THE WASP" in thsi category. I didn't read enough of her comics to find out why she seemed to "fade away" as the 60 wer coming to a close. (9)HAWKGIRL. Strained under the shadow of her husband. (10)Finally, Electra and the Black Widow. I lump these two because they haven't been given their propers either among female characters. One was killed off then brought back in posthumous, narrative retrospective. The latter never achieving the status of full vigilante. The only exception to this neudering of female characters was (11)LOIS LANE. In fact being that she never had any powers to begin with placed her in a rather unique advantagefor an upgrade as an action character. The persuit and death of her young sister, Lucy, sends Lois into a spiralling fugue state in which she rejects Superman, quits her job at the Daily Planet, walks on the rain-soaked streets of Metropolis in a daze, gets mugged in an alley, but is instantly delivered by three bouty-licous "liberated babes" who later offer her food, lodging, and companionship. She then emerges as a crusading free-lance vigilante-reporter (in hot pants and platform-spiked shoes, I might add,) kicking butt, but still still snubbing Superman. That series' plotline also ran a couple of years, and I'll bet JACK KIRBY had a hand in this also as the plot-lines intersected his "fouth world' revison at DC comics. So, there you have it. the "GIRL-IN-THE-REFRIGERATOR" PHEMNOMENA would seem almost a staple in comics as 'cops and robbers! [[Special:Contribution] ( User talk) 02:03, 5 February 2011 (UTC) 173.2.115.68 ( talk) 02:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)Veryverser
So is this topic on women killed or depowered or women killed or depowered to further a male character's story? The article is contradictory. Lots42 ( talk) 12:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
I've read through all the comments on the WiR site and none of the comic creators accused her of feminism. Better source?-- 96.25.191.170 ( talk) 23:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
I deleted the phrase "The practice of treating female characters in this manner is contrasted with the work of writers who are felt to exhibit feminist sensibilities, such as Joss Whedon." seeing as the link is dead and the statement is more opinion than fact. 99.67.238.57 ( talk) 17:06, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Per one of the creators of WIR (Beau Yarbrough), the website has moved from http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/ to http://www.lby3.com/wir/. I do not have privilege to edit the page, though (not enough edits). DanCrank ( talk) 16:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Done Fcr ( talk) 18:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Could you please change the link in the summary/overview section as well? DanCrank ( talk) 18:34, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Should Anita Sarkeesian aka FeministFrequincy represent this trope.-- 106.69.187.23 ( talk) 12:57, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
It has been suggested to merge this article here but there seems to be no discussion set up here - anyone care to comment?-- 🍺 Antiqueight confer 10:21, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Is there a reason Robert Harris is singled out in § Notable alumni? For that matter, is there a reason the section discusses him at all? Judging by what’s written there, outside the site he’s only notable for a minor fan-submitted Marvel character. If I’m wrong to remove the paragraph, please improve it with answers to these questions. Thanks. — 67.14.236.50 ( talk) 00:12, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Gang.
I removed this paragraph:
The frequent violence against female characters has led many people who? to ask for a change in the way female characters are written and portrayed. These people who? have expressed the desire for female characters to serve in a more active role in stories, as well as not be subject to such displays of violence. [1]
I went to clean up the year-old who-tags and checked the source article. But the Guardian article that's linked does not actually say what's it's being held up as a reference for. It kind of implies it, but for the most part it's talking about a greater shift in market demographics. If the paragraph isn't referencing the Guardian article to discuss a definable group of people within the context of this phenomenon, then it probably shouldn't be here. I think the existence of both the WIR website and this article talking about it adequately conveys the fact that people are critical of the phenomenon.
Cheers!
Reve ( talk) 18:38, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
References
Two references are provided for the statement that universities list WIR content as relating to pop culture:
The first link is dead. Here's a live version of the page:
There's no indication that it's related to any university.
Here's an archived copy of the original page:
This appears to have been posted as a personal page at Washington State, which I don't think reasonably supports a claim that "universities" list this content.
Nothing on the cited "perrymoorestories.com" supports the statement regarding universities, but the "perrymoorestories.com" page is cited on the corresponding French wikipedia page https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femme_dans_le_frigo to support the statement of a connection between women in the fridge and the concept of gay death.
With at least the one statement about universities gone, some additional examples of references in mass culture would be desirable, even with the statement about the concept of gay death added. The section becomes pretty weak otherwise. Fabrickator ( talk) 00:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
As long as Fridging redirects here (as opposed to having its own article) the references in popular culture section needs substantial expansion. This is the spot on Wikipedia a reader would go for encyclopedic and thorough coverage of this phenomenon and is extensive, pervasive and substantial usage throughout films, books and so on.
The explanation for this claim being flagged as failing verification is provided in this edit summary. Fabrickator ( talk) 21:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: to be merged.. Consensus found in merging both into a singular article Women in refrigerators, with the trope article being the base. – robertsky ( talk) 07:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
– It seems to me that, after a page on the trope was created, the naming scheme became unnecessarily confusing. I believe there should be a disambiguation page between the trope and website, as they get similar pageviews. The "syndrome" part is only used off and on, but makes it sound like some kind of ailment. This would make things more clear. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 12:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 22:48, 28 December 2023 (UTC)