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I've removed a few claims from this article that my sources seem to contradict, namely their animism (as opposed to Islam), as well as the sedentary nature of other Fulani. I'd be happy to discuss these things some more, though, if anyone has other info! -- Dvyost 22:10, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
My sources suggest that especially in this particular case, the presence of Islamic influence does not negate the other traditions, and in fact the Wodaabe tend to focus more on their traditional beliefs and customs, integrating relatively little Islam in their day-to-day life.
(Beckwith, Carol, and Angela Fisher. African Ceremonies. New York: Harry N Abrams, 1999.)
With this in mind, it is difficult to believe that Islam has completely replaced any non-Islamic beliefs and traditions. Turtliewings 10:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't know where the idea that wodaabe means "People of the Taboo" originally comes from, but in my analysis it is completely wrong. Wodaade is the verb "to be red," bodejo is red or a "red person," likewise wodaabe means "red people" in the Peul dialect of Northern Mali. In fact, many of the Peul in Northern Mali, while not part of the Niger clan officially called Wodaabe, refer to themselves, North Africans, and even sometimes Europeans as "wodaabe" or "red people" to contrast them with darker, "black" Africans (the word for black being the same for the word for "south" in the same dialect -- baleejo/baleeri or "[direction of] the 'black people'"). Hempcamp 06:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes we keep using a bias sourced the person writting than in Carol book isnt an Islamic scholar. Yes they do mix local non-Islamic elements into Islam. But it is a POV how this affects Islam. U c the Saudi people do it, the Bengali people do it. All culture mix their local things into Islam. this is the nature of most world religions. To say it stops becoming islam is difficult as it forces us to ask what is Islam and who are we to restrict it. People of Islam, Islamized, we must just keep the general assumption, just like to be Jewish doesnt mean to do every single last thing, same here. mayb they are Sufis.CIA fact sheet classify them as a Muslim people.-- HalaTruth(ሐላቃህ) 23:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
the sources r in the article much more than where there when i came, look at the history. a few hours ago they were NO sources now they are source, content, format a real article. I understand what you are saying but wodaabe are Fulani, there is no sep class for them the cia fact book groups them as Fulani and as Muslim. so when you look at the stats for Niger it is 80% or so Muslim, they have included the Woodaabe. -- HalaTruth(ሐላቃህ) 02:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 21:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Bororo Wodaabe in Niger, are different from Mbororo in places like Cameroon, Nigeria and the C.A.R- The link should be disambiguated for Mbororo and Bororo, since they are not the same Fula sub-group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.226.229 ( talk) 13:38, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
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I've removed a few claims from this article that my sources seem to contradict, namely their animism (as opposed to Islam), as well as the sedentary nature of other Fulani. I'd be happy to discuss these things some more, though, if anyone has other info! -- Dvyost 22:10, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
My sources suggest that especially in this particular case, the presence of Islamic influence does not negate the other traditions, and in fact the Wodaabe tend to focus more on their traditional beliefs and customs, integrating relatively little Islam in their day-to-day life.
(Beckwith, Carol, and Angela Fisher. African Ceremonies. New York: Harry N Abrams, 1999.)
With this in mind, it is difficult to believe that Islam has completely replaced any non-Islamic beliefs and traditions. Turtliewings 10:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't know where the idea that wodaabe means "People of the Taboo" originally comes from, but in my analysis it is completely wrong. Wodaade is the verb "to be red," bodejo is red or a "red person," likewise wodaabe means "red people" in the Peul dialect of Northern Mali. In fact, many of the Peul in Northern Mali, while not part of the Niger clan officially called Wodaabe, refer to themselves, North Africans, and even sometimes Europeans as "wodaabe" or "red people" to contrast them with darker, "black" Africans (the word for black being the same for the word for "south" in the same dialect -- baleejo/baleeri or "[direction of] the 'black people'"). Hempcamp 06:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes we keep using a bias sourced the person writting than in Carol book isnt an Islamic scholar. Yes they do mix local non-Islamic elements into Islam. But it is a POV how this affects Islam. U c the Saudi people do it, the Bengali people do it. All culture mix their local things into Islam. this is the nature of most world religions. To say it stops becoming islam is difficult as it forces us to ask what is Islam and who are we to restrict it. People of Islam, Islamized, we must just keep the general assumption, just like to be Jewish doesnt mean to do every single last thing, same here. mayb they are Sufis.CIA fact sheet classify them as a Muslim people.-- HalaTruth(ሐላቃህ) 23:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
the sources r in the article much more than where there when i came, look at the history. a few hours ago they were NO sources now they are source, content, format a real article. I understand what you are saying but wodaabe are Fulani, there is no sep class for them the cia fact book groups them as Fulani and as Muslim. so when you look at the stats for Niger it is 80% or so Muslim, they have included the Woodaabe. -- HalaTruth(ሐላቃህ) 02:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 21:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Bororo Wodaabe in Niger, are different from Mbororo in places like Cameroon, Nigeria and the C.A.R- The link should be disambiguated for Mbororo and Bororo, since they are not the same Fula sub-group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.226.229 ( talk) 13:38, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
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