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Is this page really necessary?

Oh come on, is it really necessary to create a separate Wikipedia page for something like this? That's a bit over the top. Cenbutz1 ( talk) 18:22, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Agree. Just because an event is notable doesn't mean it needs a separate article, as there's not much to write about for someone simply dropping out of a race. Flemmish Nietzsche ( talk) 18:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I agree it should be merged with the article about his presidential campaign. Procyon117 ( talk) 19:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm also in agreement that it should be merged. David O. Johnson ( talk) 19:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
wait but probably merge, let’s see what happens. Some republicans like trump are calling this a “coup” (another source)
I just say let’s see we wait to see what happens, this is a historical event. LuxembourgLover ( talk) 19:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
To be fair, it is a historical event, but there is no page for Lyndon B Johnson’s withdrawal in 1968, and much of this article isn’t even about what happened today. Can easily be merged into Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign, but hold off from that for now, and wait for consensus Jason Ingtonn ( talk) 21:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
we have I do not choose to run, dont know how similar that is. LuxembourgLover ( talk) 22:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Also with Harry S. Truman. I don't believe in sequel articles, not to mention something on his regular page, 2024 presidential re-election page, and now on this. FloridaMan21 ( talk) 23:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
This article is 100% not needed as of typing this (21 July) but some more info may come to light in the future on the whole thing. Candidates drop out all the time, so I see no logical need for an article that can easily be covered at Joe Biden or, as you had said, Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 02:06, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I agree sigmas — Rexter7890 ( talk) 01:18, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Rexter7890 Very Interesting statement🤔 FloridaMan21 ( talk) 02:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
This has been AFDed twice now. It's not going to change anytime soon. David O. Johnson ( talk) 02:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Paragraph 2 needs attention

Current: "Concerns of Biden's age mounted in June 2024, following a debate in which Biden's faltering appearance, speaking with a hoarse voice and failing to recall statistics and express his opinion on several occasions. After what many deemed was a poor performance, he received numerous calls for him to withdraw from the election." (n.b. that the first sentence as-is is syntactically incorrect and does not read)

Change to: Concerns around Biden's cognitive ability mounted in June 2024 following a live television debate with Donald Trump. Biden's debate performance was universally criticised as being poor, something which he himself acknowledged. In the weeks that followed there were numerous calls for him to withdraw from the election."

Specific points: "Concern of" is grammatically incorrect. Should read "concern about" or "concern around". The concerns were not about Biden's age per se. They were about his cognitive/physical health (which are often correlated with age). Should his hoarse voice be mentioned? That doesn't really signal anything in itself. "he received numerous calls.." isn't really correct. Calls for him to withdraw were generally made publicly in the mass media.

A general point I'd like to make is that (if this isn't already included) the article should mention how this announcement was made, and I personally would like to see the exact time of the announcement. I think this is a groundbreaking moment in global history and that the exact time is noteworthy (if merely for posterity). Flusapochterasumesch ( talk) 18:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Withdrew from race, or what?

The lede currently says Biden withdrew his nomination but I don't think he nominated himself, so technically he can't "withdraw" his nomination. How about "dropped out of the race" or "withdrew his candidacy"? -- Uncle Ed ( talk) 18:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The whole article is a con. It was rushed by someone looking for glory on the front page. FloridaMan21 ( talk) 23:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Gaza war in background

considering the Israel–Hamas war protest vote movements article exists, the "Uncommitted" campaign during the Democratic primary should definitely be included in the background section of the article (not in the least because it received more votes than Dean Phillips). Its not like Democrats were unanimously backing even before the debate performance. — jonas ( talk) 19:15, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

FYI, File:President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion at COMMONS:Commons:Deletion requests/File:President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png -- 65.92.247.96 ( talk) 22:45, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

This page is unnecessary

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Why does this page exist. Sertyt ( talk) 00:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Is this page really necessary?

Oh come on, is it really necessary to create a separate Wikipedia page for something like this? That's a bit over the top. Cenbutz1 ( talk) 18:22, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Agree. Just because an event is notable doesn't mean it needs a separate article, as there's not much to write about for someone simply dropping out of a race. Flemmish Nietzsche ( talk) 18:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I agree it should be merged with the article about his presidential campaign. Procyon117 ( talk) 19:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm also in agreement that it should be merged. David O. Johnson ( talk) 19:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
wait but probably merge, let’s see what happens. Some republicans like trump are calling this a “coup” (another source)
I just say let’s see we wait to see what happens, this is a historical event. LuxembourgLover ( talk) 19:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
To be fair, it is a historical event, but there is no page for Lyndon B Johnson’s withdrawal in 1968, and much of this article isn’t even about what happened today. Can easily be merged into Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign, but hold off from that for now, and wait for consensus Jason Ingtonn ( talk) 21:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
we have I do not choose to run, dont know how similar that is. LuxembourgLover ( talk) 22:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Also with Harry S. Truman. I don't believe in sequel articles, not to mention something on his regular page, 2024 presidential re-election page, and now on this. FloridaMan21 ( talk) 23:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
This article is 100% not needed as of typing this (21 July) but some more info may come to light in the future on the whole thing. Candidates drop out all the time, so I see no logical need for an article that can easily be covered at Joe Biden or, as you had said, Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 02:06, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I agree sigmas — Rexter7890 ( talk) 01:18, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Rexter7890 Very Interesting statement🤔 FloridaMan21 ( talk) 02:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
This has been AFDed twice now. It's not going to change anytime soon. David O. Johnson ( talk) 02:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Paragraph 2 needs attention

Current: "Concerns of Biden's age mounted in June 2024, following a debate in which Biden's faltering appearance, speaking with a hoarse voice and failing to recall statistics and express his opinion on several occasions. After what many deemed was a poor performance, he received numerous calls for him to withdraw from the election." (n.b. that the first sentence as-is is syntactically incorrect and does not read)

Change to: Concerns around Biden's cognitive ability mounted in June 2024 following a live television debate with Donald Trump. Biden's debate performance was universally criticised as being poor, something which he himself acknowledged. In the weeks that followed there were numerous calls for him to withdraw from the election."

Specific points: "Concern of" is grammatically incorrect. Should read "concern about" or "concern around". The concerns were not about Biden's age per se. They were about his cognitive/physical health (which are often correlated with age). Should his hoarse voice be mentioned? That doesn't really signal anything in itself. "he received numerous calls.." isn't really correct. Calls for him to withdraw were generally made publicly in the mass media.

A general point I'd like to make is that (if this isn't already included) the article should mention how this announcement was made, and I personally would like to see the exact time of the announcement. I think this is a groundbreaking moment in global history and that the exact time is noteworthy (if merely for posterity). Flusapochterasumesch ( talk) 18:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Withdrew from race, or what?

The lede currently says Biden withdrew his nomination but I don't think he nominated himself, so technically he can't "withdraw" his nomination. How about "dropped out of the race" or "withdrew his candidacy"? -- Uncle Ed ( talk) 18:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The whole article is a con. It was rushed by someone looking for glory on the front page. FloridaMan21 ( talk) 23:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Gaza war in background

considering the Israel–Hamas war protest vote movements article exists, the "Uncommitted" campaign during the Democratic primary should definitely be included in the background section of the article (not in the least because it received more votes than Dean Phillips). Its not like Democrats were unanimously backing even before the debate performance. — jonas ( talk) 19:15, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

FYI, File:President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion at COMMONS:Commons:Deletion requests/File:President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png -- 65.92.247.96 ( talk) 22:45, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

This page is unnecessary

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Why does this page exist. Sertyt ( talk) 00:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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