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Added Release Date for beta testers of Windows Vista which was November 15, 2006.
What is the release date for Vista? as Windows Vista is scheduled for 02/12/2006 but Windows vista is scheduled for 30/01/2007. Im a little confused. -- 87.102.33.71 21:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
"Also, applications like Konfabulator and SuperKaramba existed long before Apple's Dashboard."
I wanted to know if this should stay in there. Apperantly, on the Lisas and what not, there were widgets called deskapps. --
Kenta
17:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Apple likes to pretend that the idea for Dashboard came from Deskaccessories, but there is almost no similarity between the two. The implementation of Dashboard uses much more similar technologies to Konfabulator and they look almost identical. I mean, if Desk Accessories were written in a markup language of some sort, had polished and shiny graphics, ran all the time (whether they were being shown or not), and looked just like Konfab or Karamba, then they might have a point... but none of those things are true. 12.207.87.61 23:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I have heard that windows vista can not read backup files from windows xp. Is this true, or is my informatiion outdated? Also, if it is, is there a way i could manage to get all my windows xp stuff onto vista?
Right now something strange is going on: If I click on the image used in the infobox, I get... a totally different image. On this page, I see an image with the start menu and the control panel open. When I click on the image, I get a pic of the Programs folder of the start menu opened in Explorer and My Pictures or something. Does anyone else see this? 68.39.174.238 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for JamesWeb for these screenshots of Windows Vista RTM. It is just quite same the two of them: Image:Windows Vista Desktop.png and Image:Windows Aero.png — 210.213.89.132 09:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but this reads like advertising blurbs in too many places. All kinds of 'features' that 'enable' things everywhere. I was particularly struck by "Microsoft is also adding new deployment and maintenance features to make a compelling case for businesses still running Windows NT, 2000, and XP desktops." and the citing, with a straight face, of the Yankee Group and the idea that 'critical security vulnerabilities may be "reduced by as much as 80 percent"'. On the other hand, the discussion of the criticisms are desultory at best. Even if you dismiss the validity of concerns over DRM and WGA and others as forms of restrictions and intrusions, the seriousness of the allegations should merit more discussion than a (yes, I'm making up the numbers but aiming for ballpark accuracy) 20 to 1 ratio of lines discussing graphics features enabling compelling cases vs. lines discussing DRM/WGA/etc. I'm not citing these for themselves, as "two/three issues I have", but merely as examples underlying an overall tenor to this article that is decidedly not NPOV. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.221.118.33 ( talk • contribs) .
The fact that others are abusing wikipedia is not a justification for it happening here. This entry reads for a large part like a commercial press release.
As the the comment about RRPs. They are not "facts" they are transient commercial propositions. If anyone one wants prices any search engine will be falling over itself to give commercial links. This is NOT the business of an encyclopedia.
If you want the price of a dishwasher you dont open the Encyclopedia Britanica. It's a laughably stupid comment.
p.s. please sign ur comments. Nicoli nicolivich 00:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The following questions may be dumb, but I don't have a clue:
I assume it would, but will Vista support MSN Mesenger? In other words, will I be able to download MSNM after I get Vista? Will I be able to install the games I currently own? They would include Starcraft and other RTS's. I would think so, but I thought I'd ask people who seem to know what they're talking about. If you had to estimate, how much would a Vista Premium Ready Computer cost? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.151.162 ( talk • contribs) 12:50, 2006 November 23
The Criticism section seems to be getting larger and larger. Considering that the Criticism of Windows Vista section is fairly large already, wouldn't it make more sense to simply summarize the complaints and link to the relevant sections of the Criticism article? We just seem to have copies of some of the complaints from the criticisms article, and they seem to be out of sync. Any thoughts? 12.207.87.61 11:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Can i put this cartoon in that mocks Vista's numerous versions? It could just be a thumb image in the criticisms section. Herenthere (Talk) 20:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if it would be better to shape the Vista article more like the XP article, as it is a FA. And in XP there is no development page, just a link to the development page. So is it the XP article that should be fixed or is it the Vista article? 67.181.82.100 23:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I have read somewhere that all the Versions of Windows Vista will be on one DVD. Is this true? Aero Flame 12:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Not true.As you can see in the article there will be several retail editions. However there is a dvd of the rtm version available mainly for the msdn subscribers that includes all versions of vista , 32bit or 64bit versions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agiak ( talk • contribs) 10:01, 2006 November 26
See Windows Anytime Upgrade. That doesn't fully answer the question, but it's close enough for most people. -- Scott McNay 23:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
It says:
What a load of rubbish. 64 bits is bigger than 32 bits by a grand total of 4 bytes, not 1,000,000,000 so what are the other 999,999,996 bytes needed for? The reality is that Vista is simply very, very ineffcient. I question whether a piece of obvious misinformation like that should be allowed unchallenged in this article. Man with two legs 11:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I know there's no official news on prices outside the US, but for the UK amazon.co.uk has prices up - that are, after conversion to US$, a whopping 80% higher than the US prices listed here.
Would that be worthy of note?
The fact that UK prices are significantly higher that US prices may be worth a note. However it does not merit what ammounts to a catalogue of the full range of vista products and prices. One example of a price comparison to back up the claim, OK. Anything more is blatant advertising.
86.20.195.67 18:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it true there will be a "Windows Tax" that users will have to pay on an annual basis? This would be important information if true.
Will there ever be a non-server Windows release with a year based naming scheme? 213.240.234.212 19:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
According to Amazon.com, Vista Update requires Windows 2000 or higher - so Windows 9x/ME users will have to fork out on Vista Full.
193.108.73.47 07:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The features section is far too long. A short summary of the main article would be sufficient, actually detailing the features here in list form is not summary style. Ansell 07:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
"Windows Vista has a long list of new features, changes, and improvements" Compared with what? This can only be true if it is compared to something specifically. If it is Windows XP it should say so. If they are new innovations on the whole GUI market then it should say so also. Candy 10:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
which included ...
"We know that a lot of people enjoy music, movies and TV on their PCs using headphones, so added the ability to have surround sound using a new feature called Headphone Virtualization, which uses a technology known as Head-Related Transfer Functions or HRTF. Essentially the system uses information about the physics of your head to create an outside-of-the-head experience. As a result, in addition to hearing the normal sensation of left-to-right sound separation, Windows Vista can also enable the user to differentiate between front and rear sounds as well as close and far sounds.
This is not an NPOV section. It is also full of BS. HRTF and "Physics of the Head" are some sort of pseudo science. One moment it's headphones then it's qudrophonic. Keep it factual. Keep it sensible. get rid of the adverts please. Candy 20:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
The source seems a little baised, as the source is a MAc OS advocate. Unless anyone objects, i'll remove it. Darthnader37 18:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
-The sentance referencing citation #48 stated that Apple considered Vista to be "similiar" to OS X. I visited section 48 and found no indication that Apple Computer had officially stated that. I have seen Apple link to a site that bashed Vista, for, among other things, being similiar to OS X, from the Apple Newsfeed that is the default homepage in Safari, but since that's not precisely official (on the same level as a press release, for instance), and since citation 48 is in any event not a relevant citation for that claim, I decided to axe it. -Wgw2024
<references />
tag as a typo there can remove all references to the entire article! Thanks.
Chikinsawsage
11:22, 1 January 2007 (UTC)FYI, I didn't mess with that or remove citation 48, I just removed reference to Apple making that claim. Sry for any confusion. -wgw2024
Errr oops nvm, yes I did, sry, my bad. -wgw2024
Why does this page say source model open source, Windows is a close source OS?? Thanks -- 69.24.160.124 20:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Features | Home Basic | Home Premium | Business | Ultimate |
---|---|---|---|---|
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall | ||||
Internet Explorer 7 and Instant Search | ||||
Windows Aero desktop | ||||
Windows Mobility Center and Tablet PC support | ||||
Windows Meeting Space | ||||
Windows Media Center | ||||
Xbox 360 networking | ||||
Advanced backup | ||||
Business networking and Remote Desktop | ||||
BitLocker |
In case anyone thinks this can be used. There's one on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp also, but it's a big big... if anyone thinks it should be wikified, and if Mr. Thurrott doesn't mind, I have no problems doing it. Just let me know. ~Kylu ( u| t) 23:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning the fact that KMS (Key Management Service) servers located in China have been activating copies of Vista? Not to give people too much information about how to conduct illegal practices, but it's still a fact that this is happening, and Vista is supposed to be difficult to run if pirated.
"In addition, Microsoft prohibits software manufacturers from re-introducing it with their products."
How could they do that? 69.23.68.19 21:18, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't WinFS a dropped feature from Vista? If there are no objections I will work on adding a mention to the list in the article. - Thebdj 13:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I've removed this section from the article, and moved the bulk of its contents into Development of Windows Vista, where it's more relevant. Another 2700 bytes for the pare-down project. :-) -/- Warren 09:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
This article is getting really long. I think we need to try and avoid lists and instead summarize each list in a few paragraphs. This way, the article can qualify for WP:FA sooner. I'd work on it too if I had more time, I'll see what I can do. — Alex ( T| C| E) 08:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Please cut out the large table of UK prices. This is nothing short of a catalogue of MS products , I feel this is an abuse of the encyclopedia. One sentence to note that UK prices is x% higher than US would provide that information without being product catalogue.
Also dropping the half dozen images of product packages would considerably lighten the load of this huge entry.
This is a very good read and deserves being an external link for the Vista page and some of the points it mentions in terms of weaknesses in Vista's design merits inclusion in any criticisms of Vista.
The link
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
-- Thirdmoon 00:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
A question for someone (not sure if this is the right place for it)...
I navigate to the article and see "Kids next door organisations" in the list ending with TechNet. A look back at the edits shows that someone changed the text to stop reading this and instead read (presumably correcty), "volume license customers" or similar. There is no edit showing it being changed back to KND, yet it is there on the page. This seems odd; but then, when I go back to the article, it now says VLC after all. What's been going on?
-- 81.152.250.181 14:36, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I do not think the vista edition diagram is correct as vista is not based on two different codebases the editions all have the same codebase but just include different features. Also i do not think Windows starter edition is similar the windows home basic as windows starter is an incrediable stripped down version of windows to run on low spec pc. I don't think the diagram looks very good and it does not have any real purpose. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.153.167.216 ( talk) 18:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC).
the article states that 64bit edition suports 128gb of memory, is that RAM memory or HDD? i think this needs to be specified Nicoli nicolivich 00:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I am removing the gaming section. Someone may want to replace it with something more appropriate e.g. non-vista machines will not be able to run DirectX 10. Here is the previous text:
Gaming With Vista comes DirectX 10 - however in order to run future Vista-only games, a DirectX 10-compatible graphics card is needed. DirectX 10 makes use of Direct3D 10, XACT, XInput, DirectDraw and DirectPlay, meaning that the computer should also have a modern sound card. The monitor should also be at least able to have a screen resolution of 800x600. The WHQL tests in Vista has also been re-designed to meet the requirements of new games. An amount of 1 GB RAM will also provide good stability for new games, making Premium Ready computers most appropriate for future games.
I don't think the statement 'in order to run future Vista-only games' is very useful. It implies that in the near future many games will be vista only (DirectX 10 only really), when this is not the case. Perhaps a mention of Halo 2 could also be inserted. The features of DirectX 10, the issue of a sound card and if 1 GB RAM is appropriate for future games also has no place in this article. Isolater 13:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Someone needs to watch the bill gates keynote at CES and write something —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.155.106.23 ( talk) 23:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC).
According to Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows, Paul Thurrott said the public release of Windows Vista will be release on January 29, 2007 (not January 30, 2007). Can we change this release date? - Jigs41793 Talk 13:30, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I ran into an unnoticed tidbit about Apple stealing from Microsoft. And I quote (yes, directly from the site):
Is this a trustworthy source? -- Armaetin 02:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
WinSuperSite is a trustworthy source; it's Paul Thurrot's Windows Site and has been cited in this article already. Actually the system based integrated desktop search the article mentions is something relatively new. It's the idea of fast search being pervasive and integrated through the OS. There definitely wasn't anything like it in Windows or Mac OS during 1998. And yes, Microsoft did announce this back in 2003. Of course other companies came out with working products much sooner. 67.166.147.5 09:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually Sherlock was the first of the new generation of search technologies because it indexed the content of files on the hard drive. Apple was the first, as usual. Microsoft lovers, get real. Microsoft has been the source of nothing but stagnation and inflated prices for bloatware. How can intelligent people actually like this crud?
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | ← | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | → | Archive 10 |
Added Release Date for beta testers of Windows Vista which was November 15, 2006.
What is the release date for Vista? as Windows Vista is scheduled for 02/12/2006 but Windows vista is scheduled for 30/01/2007. Im a little confused. -- 87.102.33.71 21:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
"Also, applications like Konfabulator and SuperKaramba existed long before Apple's Dashboard."
I wanted to know if this should stay in there. Apperantly, on the Lisas and what not, there were widgets called deskapps. --
Kenta
17:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Apple likes to pretend that the idea for Dashboard came from Deskaccessories, but there is almost no similarity between the two. The implementation of Dashboard uses much more similar technologies to Konfabulator and they look almost identical. I mean, if Desk Accessories were written in a markup language of some sort, had polished and shiny graphics, ran all the time (whether they were being shown or not), and looked just like Konfab or Karamba, then they might have a point... but none of those things are true. 12.207.87.61 23:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I have heard that windows vista can not read backup files from windows xp. Is this true, or is my informatiion outdated? Also, if it is, is there a way i could manage to get all my windows xp stuff onto vista?
Right now something strange is going on: If I click on the image used in the infobox, I get... a totally different image. On this page, I see an image with the start menu and the control panel open. When I click on the image, I get a pic of the Programs folder of the start menu opened in Explorer and My Pictures or something. Does anyone else see this? 68.39.174.238 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for JamesWeb for these screenshots of Windows Vista RTM. It is just quite same the two of them: Image:Windows Vista Desktop.png and Image:Windows Aero.png — 210.213.89.132 09:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but this reads like advertising blurbs in too many places. All kinds of 'features' that 'enable' things everywhere. I was particularly struck by "Microsoft is also adding new deployment and maintenance features to make a compelling case for businesses still running Windows NT, 2000, and XP desktops." and the citing, with a straight face, of the Yankee Group and the idea that 'critical security vulnerabilities may be "reduced by as much as 80 percent"'. On the other hand, the discussion of the criticisms are desultory at best. Even if you dismiss the validity of concerns over DRM and WGA and others as forms of restrictions and intrusions, the seriousness of the allegations should merit more discussion than a (yes, I'm making up the numbers but aiming for ballpark accuracy) 20 to 1 ratio of lines discussing graphics features enabling compelling cases vs. lines discussing DRM/WGA/etc. I'm not citing these for themselves, as "two/three issues I have", but merely as examples underlying an overall tenor to this article that is decidedly not NPOV. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.221.118.33 ( talk • contribs) .
The fact that others are abusing wikipedia is not a justification for it happening here. This entry reads for a large part like a commercial press release.
As the the comment about RRPs. They are not "facts" they are transient commercial propositions. If anyone one wants prices any search engine will be falling over itself to give commercial links. This is NOT the business of an encyclopedia.
If you want the price of a dishwasher you dont open the Encyclopedia Britanica. It's a laughably stupid comment.
p.s. please sign ur comments. Nicoli nicolivich 00:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The following questions may be dumb, but I don't have a clue:
I assume it would, but will Vista support MSN Mesenger? In other words, will I be able to download MSNM after I get Vista? Will I be able to install the games I currently own? They would include Starcraft and other RTS's. I would think so, but I thought I'd ask people who seem to know what they're talking about. If you had to estimate, how much would a Vista Premium Ready Computer cost? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.151.162 ( talk • contribs) 12:50, 2006 November 23
The Criticism section seems to be getting larger and larger. Considering that the Criticism of Windows Vista section is fairly large already, wouldn't it make more sense to simply summarize the complaints and link to the relevant sections of the Criticism article? We just seem to have copies of some of the complaints from the criticisms article, and they seem to be out of sync. Any thoughts? 12.207.87.61 11:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Can i put this cartoon in that mocks Vista's numerous versions? It could just be a thumb image in the criticisms section. Herenthere (Talk) 20:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if it would be better to shape the Vista article more like the XP article, as it is a FA. And in XP there is no development page, just a link to the development page. So is it the XP article that should be fixed or is it the Vista article? 67.181.82.100 23:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I have read somewhere that all the Versions of Windows Vista will be on one DVD. Is this true? Aero Flame 12:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Not true.As you can see in the article there will be several retail editions. However there is a dvd of the rtm version available mainly for the msdn subscribers that includes all versions of vista , 32bit or 64bit versions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agiak ( talk • contribs) 10:01, 2006 November 26
See Windows Anytime Upgrade. That doesn't fully answer the question, but it's close enough for most people. -- Scott McNay 23:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
It says:
What a load of rubbish. 64 bits is bigger than 32 bits by a grand total of 4 bytes, not 1,000,000,000 so what are the other 999,999,996 bytes needed for? The reality is that Vista is simply very, very ineffcient. I question whether a piece of obvious misinformation like that should be allowed unchallenged in this article. Man with two legs 11:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I know there's no official news on prices outside the US, but for the UK amazon.co.uk has prices up - that are, after conversion to US$, a whopping 80% higher than the US prices listed here.
Would that be worthy of note?
The fact that UK prices are significantly higher that US prices may be worth a note. However it does not merit what ammounts to a catalogue of the full range of vista products and prices. One example of a price comparison to back up the claim, OK. Anything more is blatant advertising.
86.20.195.67 18:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it true there will be a "Windows Tax" that users will have to pay on an annual basis? This would be important information if true.
Will there ever be a non-server Windows release with a year based naming scheme? 213.240.234.212 19:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
According to Amazon.com, Vista Update requires Windows 2000 or higher - so Windows 9x/ME users will have to fork out on Vista Full.
193.108.73.47 07:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The features section is far too long. A short summary of the main article would be sufficient, actually detailing the features here in list form is not summary style. Ansell 07:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
"Windows Vista has a long list of new features, changes, and improvements" Compared with what? This can only be true if it is compared to something specifically. If it is Windows XP it should say so. If they are new innovations on the whole GUI market then it should say so also. Candy 10:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
which included ...
"We know that a lot of people enjoy music, movies and TV on their PCs using headphones, so added the ability to have surround sound using a new feature called Headphone Virtualization, which uses a technology known as Head-Related Transfer Functions or HRTF. Essentially the system uses information about the physics of your head to create an outside-of-the-head experience. As a result, in addition to hearing the normal sensation of left-to-right sound separation, Windows Vista can also enable the user to differentiate between front and rear sounds as well as close and far sounds.
This is not an NPOV section. It is also full of BS. HRTF and "Physics of the Head" are some sort of pseudo science. One moment it's headphones then it's qudrophonic. Keep it factual. Keep it sensible. get rid of the adverts please. Candy 20:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
The source seems a little baised, as the source is a MAc OS advocate. Unless anyone objects, i'll remove it. Darthnader37 18:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
-The sentance referencing citation #48 stated that Apple considered Vista to be "similiar" to OS X. I visited section 48 and found no indication that Apple Computer had officially stated that. I have seen Apple link to a site that bashed Vista, for, among other things, being similiar to OS X, from the Apple Newsfeed that is the default homepage in Safari, but since that's not precisely official (on the same level as a press release, for instance), and since citation 48 is in any event not a relevant citation for that claim, I decided to axe it. -Wgw2024
<references />
tag as a typo there can remove all references to the entire article! Thanks.
Chikinsawsage
11:22, 1 January 2007 (UTC)FYI, I didn't mess with that or remove citation 48, I just removed reference to Apple making that claim. Sry for any confusion. -wgw2024
Errr oops nvm, yes I did, sry, my bad. -wgw2024
Why does this page say source model open source, Windows is a close source OS?? Thanks -- 69.24.160.124 20:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Features | Home Basic | Home Premium | Business | Ultimate |
---|---|---|---|---|
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall | ||||
Internet Explorer 7 and Instant Search | ||||
Windows Aero desktop | ||||
Windows Mobility Center and Tablet PC support | ||||
Windows Meeting Space | ||||
Windows Media Center | ||||
Xbox 360 networking | ||||
Advanced backup | ||||
Business networking and Remote Desktop | ||||
BitLocker |
In case anyone thinks this can be used. There's one on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp also, but it's a big big... if anyone thinks it should be wikified, and if Mr. Thurrott doesn't mind, I have no problems doing it. Just let me know. ~Kylu ( u| t) 23:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning the fact that KMS (Key Management Service) servers located in China have been activating copies of Vista? Not to give people too much information about how to conduct illegal practices, but it's still a fact that this is happening, and Vista is supposed to be difficult to run if pirated.
"In addition, Microsoft prohibits software manufacturers from re-introducing it with their products."
How could they do that? 69.23.68.19 21:18, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't WinFS a dropped feature from Vista? If there are no objections I will work on adding a mention to the list in the article. - Thebdj 13:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I've removed this section from the article, and moved the bulk of its contents into Development of Windows Vista, where it's more relevant. Another 2700 bytes for the pare-down project. :-) -/- Warren 09:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
This article is getting really long. I think we need to try and avoid lists and instead summarize each list in a few paragraphs. This way, the article can qualify for WP:FA sooner. I'd work on it too if I had more time, I'll see what I can do. — Alex ( T| C| E) 08:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Please cut out the large table of UK prices. This is nothing short of a catalogue of MS products , I feel this is an abuse of the encyclopedia. One sentence to note that UK prices is x% higher than US would provide that information without being product catalogue.
Also dropping the half dozen images of product packages would considerably lighten the load of this huge entry.
This is a very good read and deserves being an external link for the Vista page and some of the points it mentions in terms of weaknesses in Vista's design merits inclusion in any criticisms of Vista.
The link
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
-- Thirdmoon 00:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
A question for someone (not sure if this is the right place for it)...
I navigate to the article and see "Kids next door organisations" in the list ending with TechNet. A look back at the edits shows that someone changed the text to stop reading this and instead read (presumably correcty), "volume license customers" or similar. There is no edit showing it being changed back to KND, yet it is there on the page. This seems odd; but then, when I go back to the article, it now says VLC after all. What's been going on?
-- 81.152.250.181 14:36, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I do not think the vista edition diagram is correct as vista is not based on two different codebases the editions all have the same codebase but just include different features. Also i do not think Windows starter edition is similar the windows home basic as windows starter is an incrediable stripped down version of windows to run on low spec pc. I don't think the diagram looks very good and it does not have any real purpose. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.153.167.216 ( talk) 18:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC).
the article states that 64bit edition suports 128gb of memory, is that RAM memory or HDD? i think this needs to be specified Nicoli nicolivich 00:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I am removing the gaming section. Someone may want to replace it with something more appropriate e.g. non-vista machines will not be able to run DirectX 10. Here is the previous text:
Gaming With Vista comes DirectX 10 - however in order to run future Vista-only games, a DirectX 10-compatible graphics card is needed. DirectX 10 makes use of Direct3D 10, XACT, XInput, DirectDraw and DirectPlay, meaning that the computer should also have a modern sound card. The monitor should also be at least able to have a screen resolution of 800x600. The WHQL tests in Vista has also been re-designed to meet the requirements of new games. An amount of 1 GB RAM will also provide good stability for new games, making Premium Ready computers most appropriate for future games.
I don't think the statement 'in order to run future Vista-only games' is very useful. It implies that in the near future many games will be vista only (DirectX 10 only really), when this is not the case. Perhaps a mention of Halo 2 could also be inserted. The features of DirectX 10, the issue of a sound card and if 1 GB RAM is appropriate for future games also has no place in this article. Isolater 13:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Someone needs to watch the bill gates keynote at CES and write something —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.155.106.23 ( talk) 23:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC).
According to Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows, Paul Thurrott said the public release of Windows Vista will be release on January 29, 2007 (not January 30, 2007). Can we change this release date? - Jigs41793 Talk 13:30, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I ran into an unnoticed tidbit about Apple stealing from Microsoft. And I quote (yes, directly from the site):
Is this a trustworthy source? -- Armaetin 02:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
WinSuperSite is a trustworthy source; it's Paul Thurrot's Windows Site and has been cited in this article already. Actually the system based integrated desktop search the article mentions is something relatively new. It's the idea of fast search being pervasive and integrated through the OS. There definitely wasn't anything like it in Windows or Mac OS during 1998. And yes, Microsoft did announce this back in 2003. Of course other companies came out with working products much sooner. 67.166.147.5 09:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually Sherlock was the first of the new generation of search technologies because it indexed the content of files on the hard drive. Apple was the first, as usual. Microsoft lovers, get real. Microsoft has been the source of nothing but stagnation and inflated prices for bloatware. How can intelligent people actually like this crud?