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Because a IP is reverting the changes all the time, I want to ask all. As seen on the WP8 page, there's now a red logo. But the official logo color is purple, as seen on windowsphone.com. I hope everyone 'll agree with me. -- Lolametro ( talk) 16:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Windows Phone 8 lacks some information that would help define what Windows Mobile truly is. I believe the primary definition, rather than listing dates, should have a more clarifying definition pertaining to what Windows 8 Phone is. I am proposing to add in a revision that will contain clarification that a broader target can better understand.
Windows Phone 8 is the second generation of the Windows Phone mobile operating system, as officially confirmed by Microsoft at an MSDN seminar in August 2011 and previewed at Microsoft's 'sneak peek' at Windows Phone on June 20, 2012. It was released to manufacturing on September 14, 2012 [1] and released to consumers on October 29, 2012. [2]
Devices were initially launched by four companies: Nokia, Samsung, Huawei, and HTC. All devices are based on System on Chips from Qualcomm. Current Windows Phone 7.x devices can not run or update to Windows Phone 8 and new applications compiled specifically for Windows Phone 8 are not made available for Windows Phone 7.x devices. [3]
Windows Phone 8 is the second generation proprietary mobile operating system released on Oct 29th, codenamed "Apollo", developed by Microsoft featuring a new interface known as Metro.
Windows Phone 8 replaces it's CE-based architecture used on Windows Phone 7 devices with the Windows NT kernel found on many Windows 8 components. Current Windows Phone 7.x devices cannot run or update to Windows Phone 8 and new applications compiled specifically for Windows Phone 8 are not made available for Windows Phone 7.x devices.
Nokia announced a partnership with Microsoft on February 11, 2011 making Windows Phone 8 the primary operating system for Nokia. However at launch, Windows 8 devices have also been manufactured by Samsung, HTC and Huawei.
Gcimato-NJITWILL ( talk) 01:34, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
This section doesn't seem like something typically found on wikipedia. Reported problems do not seem to be enumerated for Android, Windows 7, GIMP, or any other popular OS or software. I don't doubt the veracity or potential utility of the information, it just doesn't seem appropriate for an encyclopedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.153.78.178 ( talk) 00:29, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
It does not encrypt data on the SD card? It allows accessing the card contents from Linux using a card reader? Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.189.123.15 ( talk) 17:09, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Do we have any source (MSDN prefered?) -- 95.88.237.27 ( talk) 20:43, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
The last line of "Reception" section is not appropriate as its not neutral. Further some guy overwrites my attempt to make this topic a neutral one. Please help me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renoldsmartin ( talk • contribs) 16:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
I am proposing to remove the "Reported Problems" and "Missing Features" sections from this article. Wikipedia articles aren't supposed to be lists ( WP:LISTS) and should never be a list of complaints to be sent to Microsoft. I have been trying to undo this first by removing the section, and then making it a collapsible list as a sort of compromise-- but an IP user has continued to revert the changes. Unnamed IP User, list your complaints in a tech forum-- Wikipedia is not the place for you to whine about what Microsoft didn't include in its OS. Gamer9832 ( talk) 18:01, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I propose a section in the article that lists features removed by carriers to help inform customers that may be trying to find out about the phone. For example, all Windows Phone 8 phones except those carried by Verizon have "Group Messaging", and Verizon has also removed the integrated Visual Voicemail in favor of their own separate app. AT&T doesn't support Data Sense yet.
4 are in favor and 2 are against removal of the "Missing Features" section (assuming JohnMartinErnst is not also the IP user). I think consensus has been reached that we should keep the Reported Problems section, and keep some notable missing features. Gamer9832 ( talk) 03:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Will Windows Phone 8 go into extended support on July 8, 2014? And will extended support end on January 12, 2016? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.11.16 ( talk) 07:36, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
"Unlike its predecessor, Windows Phone 8 uses true multitasking, allowing developers to create apps that can run in the background and resume instantly. (This is a lie, it doesn't work that way)". What is that supposed to mean? Does WP8 have "true" multitasking (whatever this means) or not? If it "doesn't work this way", then how does it work? Any proof for the assertion? The quoted sentences are very, very unencyclopedic. 178.26.102.111 ( talk) 16:03, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Bring
Windows Phone 8.1 into this article. I don't think that 8.1's article will end up being meaty enough to warrant it's own place. Please discuss.
Zero Serenity (
talk)
04:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Quoting from Development History, "On June 20, 2012, Microsoft unveiled Windows Phone 8 (codenamed Apollo), a second generation of the Windows Phone operating system for release later in 2012. Windows Phone 8 replaces its previously Windows CE-based architecture with one based on the Windows NT kernel (with many components shared with Windows 8), allowing developers to easily port applications between the two platforms." I do not believe that the kernel has anything to do with apps. In Windows Phone, all apps run on a high level framework with managed code. The move to the NT kernel was a part of the final objective of Microsoft to unify the Windows and Windows Phone operating systems completely. A CE based Windows Phone could also share framework components with Windows 8 and allow porting of apps. A simple removal of parentheses around "with many components shared with Windows 8" fixes the problem because it will mean that Windows Phone 8 and not the kernel shares the components. Additionally, line 1 of this section calls Windows Phone 8 the second generation, while the first line of the article refers to it as the third. I have edited the section appropriately, and anyone is free to revert. Please be sure to give an argument here, though. I have one more problem with this entire section. It still talks of Windows Phone 8 as if it was unreleased yet. It says, "the four 'confirmed' screen sizes", "...Windows Phone 8 'WILL'..." etc. -- Prayaas A. ( talk) 10:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
The first paragraph says it features the Modern UI. I do not believe Microsoft has ever officially used the term "Modern UI" in context of Windows Phone. They simply stopped using Metro, and only Windows 8 apps were briefly called Modern Apps. -- Prayaas A. ( talk) 10:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
"Native code support (C++), allows for simplified porting from platforms such as Android, Symbian, and iOS." I guess what is meant, is that without "native code support" (not too familiar w/Microsofts alternative development environment) porting might be just impossible? And is C++ really helping (that much)? Android uses Java as a native language (and iOS uses Objective-C then Swift as main language) and you would also need to recreate/remap many APIs? What is being done and how successful is this porting? Aren't most Android apps NOT ported to WP? Is this mostly helping to port from WP? That is, to help make WP apps that are cross-platform, as Android can also use C++ with the NDK.
I found another mention of Android, but maybe saying it here that Android is most popular and WP third? after iOS is justified.. comp.arch ( talk) 14:27, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed the change in the naming up the updates, most notably that they were retroactively changed, officially the first 2 G.D.R.'s were not called either "update 1" nor "Update 2" in fact when Update 3 came out it was notable that it wasn't going to be released as "G.D.R. 3" as you can read here, and Wikipedia often doesn't retroactively rebrand articles simply because the company does it an example could be how Microsoft rebranded Windows Mobile 5 and Windows Mobile 6 to "Windows Phone 5" and "Windows Phone 6" as you could see here. I'd suggest changing the names back to their original state. Sincerely, -- Namlong618 ( talk) 20:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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Because a IP is reverting the changes all the time, I want to ask all. As seen on the WP8 page, there's now a red logo. But the official logo color is purple, as seen on windowsphone.com. I hope everyone 'll agree with me. -- Lolametro ( talk) 16:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Windows Phone 8 lacks some information that would help define what Windows Mobile truly is. I believe the primary definition, rather than listing dates, should have a more clarifying definition pertaining to what Windows 8 Phone is. I am proposing to add in a revision that will contain clarification that a broader target can better understand.
Windows Phone 8 is the second generation of the Windows Phone mobile operating system, as officially confirmed by Microsoft at an MSDN seminar in August 2011 and previewed at Microsoft's 'sneak peek' at Windows Phone on June 20, 2012. It was released to manufacturing on September 14, 2012 [1] and released to consumers on October 29, 2012. [2]
Devices were initially launched by four companies: Nokia, Samsung, Huawei, and HTC. All devices are based on System on Chips from Qualcomm. Current Windows Phone 7.x devices can not run or update to Windows Phone 8 and new applications compiled specifically for Windows Phone 8 are not made available for Windows Phone 7.x devices. [3]
Windows Phone 8 is the second generation proprietary mobile operating system released on Oct 29th, codenamed "Apollo", developed by Microsoft featuring a new interface known as Metro.
Windows Phone 8 replaces it's CE-based architecture used on Windows Phone 7 devices with the Windows NT kernel found on many Windows 8 components. Current Windows Phone 7.x devices cannot run or update to Windows Phone 8 and new applications compiled specifically for Windows Phone 8 are not made available for Windows Phone 7.x devices.
Nokia announced a partnership with Microsoft on February 11, 2011 making Windows Phone 8 the primary operating system for Nokia. However at launch, Windows 8 devices have also been manufactured by Samsung, HTC and Huawei.
Gcimato-NJITWILL ( talk) 01:34, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
This section doesn't seem like something typically found on wikipedia. Reported problems do not seem to be enumerated for Android, Windows 7, GIMP, or any other popular OS or software. I don't doubt the veracity or potential utility of the information, it just doesn't seem appropriate for an encyclopedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.153.78.178 ( talk) 00:29, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
It does not encrypt data on the SD card? It allows accessing the card contents from Linux using a card reader? Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.189.123.15 ( talk) 17:09, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Do we have any source (MSDN prefered?) -- 95.88.237.27 ( talk) 20:43, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
The last line of "Reception" section is not appropriate as its not neutral. Further some guy overwrites my attempt to make this topic a neutral one. Please help me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renoldsmartin ( talk • contribs) 16:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
I am proposing to remove the "Reported Problems" and "Missing Features" sections from this article. Wikipedia articles aren't supposed to be lists ( WP:LISTS) and should never be a list of complaints to be sent to Microsoft. I have been trying to undo this first by removing the section, and then making it a collapsible list as a sort of compromise-- but an IP user has continued to revert the changes. Unnamed IP User, list your complaints in a tech forum-- Wikipedia is not the place for you to whine about what Microsoft didn't include in its OS. Gamer9832 ( talk) 18:01, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I propose a section in the article that lists features removed by carriers to help inform customers that may be trying to find out about the phone. For example, all Windows Phone 8 phones except those carried by Verizon have "Group Messaging", and Verizon has also removed the integrated Visual Voicemail in favor of their own separate app. AT&T doesn't support Data Sense yet.
4 are in favor and 2 are against removal of the "Missing Features" section (assuming JohnMartinErnst is not also the IP user). I think consensus has been reached that we should keep the Reported Problems section, and keep some notable missing features. Gamer9832 ( talk) 03:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Will Windows Phone 8 go into extended support on July 8, 2014? And will extended support end on January 12, 2016? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.11.16 ( talk) 07:36, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
"Unlike its predecessor, Windows Phone 8 uses true multitasking, allowing developers to create apps that can run in the background and resume instantly. (This is a lie, it doesn't work that way)". What is that supposed to mean? Does WP8 have "true" multitasking (whatever this means) or not? If it "doesn't work this way", then how does it work? Any proof for the assertion? The quoted sentences are very, very unencyclopedic. 178.26.102.111 ( talk) 16:03, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Bring
Windows Phone 8.1 into this article. I don't think that 8.1's article will end up being meaty enough to warrant it's own place. Please discuss.
Zero Serenity (
talk)
04:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Quoting from Development History, "On June 20, 2012, Microsoft unveiled Windows Phone 8 (codenamed Apollo), a second generation of the Windows Phone operating system for release later in 2012. Windows Phone 8 replaces its previously Windows CE-based architecture with one based on the Windows NT kernel (with many components shared with Windows 8), allowing developers to easily port applications between the two platforms." I do not believe that the kernel has anything to do with apps. In Windows Phone, all apps run on a high level framework with managed code. The move to the NT kernel was a part of the final objective of Microsoft to unify the Windows and Windows Phone operating systems completely. A CE based Windows Phone could also share framework components with Windows 8 and allow porting of apps. A simple removal of parentheses around "with many components shared with Windows 8" fixes the problem because it will mean that Windows Phone 8 and not the kernel shares the components. Additionally, line 1 of this section calls Windows Phone 8 the second generation, while the first line of the article refers to it as the third. I have edited the section appropriately, and anyone is free to revert. Please be sure to give an argument here, though. I have one more problem with this entire section. It still talks of Windows Phone 8 as if it was unreleased yet. It says, "the four 'confirmed' screen sizes", "...Windows Phone 8 'WILL'..." etc. -- Prayaas A. ( talk) 10:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
The first paragraph says it features the Modern UI. I do not believe Microsoft has ever officially used the term "Modern UI" in context of Windows Phone. They simply stopped using Metro, and only Windows 8 apps were briefly called Modern Apps. -- Prayaas A. ( talk) 10:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
"Native code support (C++), allows for simplified porting from platforms such as Android, Symbian, and iOS." I guess what is meant, is that without "native code support" (not too familiar w/Microsofts alternative development environment) porting might be just impossible? And is C++ really helping (that much)? Android uses Java as a native language (and iOS uses Objective-C then Swift as main language) and you would also need to recreate/remap many APIs? What is being done and how successful is this porting? Aren't most Android apps NOT ported to WP? Is this mostly helping to port from WP? That is, to help make WP apps that are cross-platform, as Android can also use C++ with the NDK.
I found another mention of Android, but maybe saying it here that Android is most popular and WP third? after iOS is justified.. comp.arch ( talk) 14:27, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed the change in the naming up the updates, most notably that they were retroactively changed, officially the first 2 G.D.R.'s were not called either "update 1" nor "Update 2" in fact when Update 3 came out it was notable that it wasn't going to be released as "G.D.R. 3" as you can read here, and Wikipedia often doesn't retroactively rebrand articles simply because the company does it an example could be how Microsoft rebranded Windows Mobile 5 and Windows Mobile 6 to "Windows Phone 5" and "Windows Phone 6" as you could see here. I'd suggest changing the names back to their original state. Sincerely, -- Namlong618 ( talk) 20:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC)