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Shouldn't Windows 9x have at least a section on it's boot process? After all, NT has an entire article on the subject.
When the term 'Windows 9x' is used, it doesn't always include Windows Me (at least in common usage), although Win95 and Win98 are universally included. That's why another term "Windows 9x/Me" is very commonly seen, if the authors want to explicitly include Windows Me.-- Wengier 18:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
It is patently incorrect to call Windows-9x a "Dos-based" operating system, and such a phrase should be removed from the main article UNLESS the author (or anyone else) puts forward an explanation as to why they believe windows 9x is "dos-based".
It's not very clear at all. Many people simply assume that because DOS is transiently booted during win-9x startup, that 9x must be "dos-based". Of course, such thinking is a total crock. Win-3.x was "dos-based", but not 9x/me. Dos is used as a boot-loader for 9X, just as all NT-based OS's are transiently booted while the CPU is in real mode. Again, because you can interrupt a win-9x boot (by pressing F8) and force it to boot (and stay in) DOS leads some people to believe that DOS forms some basic foundation above which win-9x/me operates. Another aspect which throws people is that they equate FAT-32 with DOS, and hence they link win-9x/me with DOS in the same way. Such thinking is, of course, incorrect. Win-9x supports DOS apps in pretty much exactly the same way as NT-based OS's do - with a virtual DOS emulation environment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.125.101 ( talk) 02:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
"Win-3.x was "dos-based", but not 9x/me." - Windows 3.1 was much closer to 95 than you'd think. An interim release called Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was widely used prior to '95, and it included an early release of the 32-bit networking drivers from Chicago. The reason this was possible was because Windows 3.1 already had the same multi-threaded 32-bit kernel, based on loadable modules called VxDs. Chicago just made the use of that kernel more widespread and so lessened (but without totally removing) the dependencies on older 16-bit code. Also: "Win-9x supports DOS apps in pretty much exactly the same way as NT-based OS's do - with a virtual DOS emulation environment." True, but then so did Windows 3.1! Ironically that was the only way to reveal the time-sliced multi-threaded capability of the kernel: by running two DOS apps simultaneously, and watching them smoothly share the CPU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.84.94.254 ( talk) 13:52, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
That section "Overview" needs to be completely re-written, if it contradicts itself like that. I personally don't know jack about how the Windows systems work or if either statement is true; maybe somebody else does? -- Gafaddict 21:46, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I once edited and rewrote most of the Windows 98/SE article, for it was full of errors both in language and content. Seemingly, the same user that wrote the problematic parts back then wrote 'Practical application' on this page. Therefore I'd like to ask someone to rewrite that section. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.128.246.197 ( talk) 12:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Can someone mention and elaborate on direct hardware access which is a 9x exclusive feature and which NT doesn't allow? (for the better) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.128.181.112 ( talk) 18:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Due to a timing error, Windows may crash after continuously running for about a month and a half. This affected unpatched versions of Windows 95 and Windows 98. [1]
Does this refer to the total run time, or uninterrupted runtime? -- Roadstaa ( talk) 23:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I seem to remember my school in Hong Kong installing copies of "Windows 97", which was basically Windows 95 with chinese input support. I can find this forum discussion in support of that, but nothing more authoritative. Anybody else heard of this release? -- Spudtater ( talk • contribs) 12:51, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I have already listed examples that in actual usage the term "Windows 9x" may or may not include WinME (an example of the latter include this). That is why "Windows 9x/ME" is commonly seen (e.g. here and here). Wikipedia is for describing the actual usage, and not for stating opinions or other views. -- Wengier ( talk) 16:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
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Shouldn't Windows 9x have at least a section on it's boot process? After all, NT has an entire article on the subject.
When the term 'Windows 9x' is used, it doesn't always include Windows Me (at least in common usage), although Win95 and Win98 are universally included. That's why another term "Windows 9x/Me" is very commonly seen, if the authors want to explicitly include Windows Me.-- Wengier 18:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
It is patently incorrect to call Windows-9x a "Dos-based" operating system, and such a phrase should be removed from the main article UNLESS the author (or anyone else) puts forward an explanation as to why they believe windows 9x is "dos-based".
It's not very clear at all. Many people simply assume that because DOS is transiently booted during win-9x startup, that 9x must be "dos-based". Of course, such thinking is a total crock. Win-3.x was "dos-based", but not 9x/me. Dos is used as a boot-loader for 9X, just as all NT-based OS's are transiently booted while the CPU is in real mode. Again, because you can interrupt a win-9x boot (by pressing F8) and force it to boot (and stay in) DOS leads some people to believe that DOS forms some basic foundation above which win-9x/me operates. Another aspect which throws people is that they equate FAT-32 with DOS, and hence they link win-9x/me with DOS in the same way. Such thinking is, of course, incorrect. Win-9x supports DOS apps in pretty much exactly the same way as NT-based OS's do - with a virtual DOS emulation environment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.125.101 ( talk) 02:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
"Win-3.x was "dos-based", but not 9x/me." - Windows 3.1 was much closer to 95 than you'd think. An interim release called Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was widely used prior to '95, and it included an early release of the 32-bit networking drivers from Chicago. The reason this was possible was because Windows 3.1 already had the same multi-threaded 32-bit kernel, based on loadable modules called VxDs. Chicago just made the use of that kernel more widespread and so lessened (but without totally removing) the dependencies on older 16-bit code. Also: "Win-9x supports DOS apps in pretty much exactly the same way as NT-based OS's do - with a virtual DOS emulation environment." True, but then so did Windows 3.1! Ironically that was the only way to reveal the time-sliced multi-threaded capability of the kernel: by running two DOS apps simultaneously, and watching them smoothly share the CPU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.84.94.254 ( talk) 13:52, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
That section "Overview" needs to be completely re-written, if it contradicts itself like that. I personally don't know jack about how the Windows systems work or if either statement is true; maybe somebody else does? -- Gafaddict 21:46, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I once edited and rewrote most of the Windows 98/SE article, for it was full of errors both in language and content. Seemingly, the same user that wrote the problematic parts back then wrote 'Practical application' on this page. Therefore I'd like to ask someone to rewrite that section. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.128.246.197 ( talk) 12:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Can someone mention and elaborate on direct hardware access which is a 9x exclusive feature and which NT doesn't allow? (for the better) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.128.181.112 ( talk) 18:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Due to a timing error, Windows may crash after continuously running for about a month and a half. This affected unpatched versions of Windows 95 and Windows 98. [1]
Does this refer to the total run time, or uninterrupted runtime? -- Roadstaa ( talk) 23:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I seem to remember my school in Hong Kong installing copies of "Windows 97", which was basically Windows 95 with chinese input support. I can find this forum discussion in support of that, but nothing more authoritative. Anybody else heard of this release? -- Spudtater ( talk • contribs) 12:51, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I have already listed examples that in actual usage the term "Windows 9x" may or may not include WinME (an example of the latter include this). That is why "Windows 9x/ME" is commonly seen (e.g. here and here). Wikipedia is for describing the actual usage, and not for stating opinions or other views. -- Wengier ( talk) 16:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
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