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I read the part of the article on the legend of the frog fight and realized it is actually historically innaccurate. The battle of the frogs legend did not even take place in Willimantic, but in Windham Center, at frog pond, which is located near route 14 heading towards Scotland. I just saw that it said the frogs were heading toward the Willimantic River, when that is not true. I would reccomeend deleting the battle of the frogs story from the Willimantic page and swithcing it to the Windham page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.187.188 ( talk) 19:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Without having much wish to dive into the battles of frogs, may I note that the external link in the text to the "frog bridge" now points to a page saying that the page has moved. I don't have as much familiarity with Connecticut as I ought and the task of finding the correct link is, at present, beyond my resources. Pete 00:31, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Someone deleted the section on Willimantic's heroin trade last November, which apparently slipped under the radar. I've re-added it, this time with footnotes. If someone wants to argue for the section's deletion, please do so here on the talk page rather than just deleting it again. grendel| khan 21:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The history section is going under the knife at the hands of unregistered users with very little comment or justification provided...is there some reason for this? A lot of this information (about all the railroads, for example) is really great and really specific, so I get the feeling that whoever is adding it has access to some historical records. Could we please cite this stuff so it can stay in the article? Statements like "This was the beginning of industrialized Willimantic" cannot remain in an article without a citation. Mjl0509 ( talk) 04:04, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
There's been mean battling about notable residents of the town, in which experienced editors "protect" their entries in the list but delete new editors' additions, perhaps because the new ones are not adequately supported. But NO entries were adequately supported, so i have now removed them all. Please don't add back any to the article without a proper Reliable Source attesting to the person's association with Willimantic. The removed items are:
-- do ncr am 22:47, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Chris Dodd may have born here but was never a "resident".-- 24.177.0.156 ( talk) 22:08, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
As someone who has lived in Willimantic for upwards of 40 years, I'm surprised when other long-time residents claim that because of consolidation in the 80s, Willimantic no longer exists. I say it's on every map, has a mayor, police force, fire department, and a public library, and that their position is like saying that Brooklyn, NY, does not exist since it was incorporated into New York City about a century ago. Of course, the situation is maybe more complicated in the case of Willimantic. The Wikipedia classifies Willimantic as "a census designated place" and also as a "village" in the town of Windham. Neither of these designations is very helpful. A village with a university, a hospital, a symphony orchestra, a theatre, dozens of churches, three of them Catholic, a community college, half a dozen schools, including a magnet school for the performing arts? Some village! Though the designation may be legally accurate, neither residents or visitors would think of Willimantic as a village. The designation Windham is also a problem because it is a town (meaning a township in Connecticut) and also a county, which some will tell you also no longer exists, though it's on all the maps. Though it may not be so legally, everyone thinks of Willimantic as a city with outlying villages all in the town(ship) of Windham. What I find especially irritating is the characterization of Windham/ Willimantic assumed by journalists in Hartford who apparently never have been here. Willimantic is not a shabby, derelict crime- and gang-ridden slum, but a vibrant city known for its historic Victorian architecture, as the Wikipedia article suggests. Jim Lacey ( talk) 18:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Locally, Willimantic is known as Willi. Wikipedia.doug ( talk) 03:17, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
The Anne Street pedestrian bridge in Minot, North Dakota crosses a road, several railroad tracks, a river, and a pedestrian trail. The section about it being the only footbridge that goes over a road, a railroad track, and a river. Bugo 01:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
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Noticing that the peer review found no issues and suggested the article was GA-ready as of last year, I've explicitly nominated it. grendel| khan 00:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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I conclude that this is very far from meeting the reliable sourcing (criterion 2) and neutrality (criterion 4) conditions for good articles, and has significant problems in other areas as well. As such it meets WP:GACR quick fail criterion 1, "It is a long way from meeting any one [in this case two] of the six good article criteria." — David Eppstein ( talk) 02:21, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
While revising the article in the hopes of getting it through the GA process ( great big diff here), something struck me. In the late nineteenth century, Willimantic was a mighty crossroads--three major rail lines ran through it, and the Hotel Hooker was the jewel of eastern Connecticut. At the dawn of the twenty-first century, the highway network--the modern equivalent of the railroads--doesn't come within ten miles of the town, and the Hotel Hooker was primarily known for heroin and prostitution. It's striking just how the wheel can turn. I can't make that sound encyclopedic, but it jumped out at me and I wanted to write it down somewhere. grendel| khan 04:51, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
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In 1983, the city and the town consolidated and became one town again.This sentence is entirely copied from the source. Should be rephrased.
"...vintage railroad buildings and a six-stall roundhouse reconstructed on the original foundation."original source:
"...as well as vintage railroad buildings and a six-stall roundhouse reconstructed on the original foundation."
"Willimantic is home to the only storefront food cooperative in the state"is sourced, and the only source whatsoever is the website of that store, so saying it is a "point of interest" is a problem, unless better sources are found.
Willimantic is the home of the Willimantic Footbridge. Built in 1907, it is the only footbridge in the United States to connect two state highways, as well as crossing all three major forms of transportation: road, rail, and river.where is the source for this?
This is my initial review, when these points are met, we could go further, but as I see it, the lack of information along with unsourced material and copyvios are the main problems.-- Bolter21 ( talk to me) 12:01, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Bolter21, it's been over two months since your review and nominator Grendelkhan's last Wikipedia edit was two days before said review, on January 24. I pinged their talk page on February 19, and there has been no response. At this point, given the significant issues with the nomination, the thing to do is probably to close it. You've been more than generous, letting it run all this time. Thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 13:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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I read the part of the article on the legend of the frog fight and realized it is actually historically innaccurate. The battle of the frogs legend did not even take place in Willimantic, but in Windham Center, at frog pond, which is located near route 14 heading towards Scotland. I just saw that it said the frogs were heading toward the Willimantic River, when that is not true. I would reccomeend deleting the battle of the frogs story from the Willimantic page and swithcing it to the Windham page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.187.188 ( talk) 19:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Without having much wish to dive into the battles of frogs, may I note that the external link in the text to the "frog bridge" now points to a page saying that the page has moved. I don't have as much familiarity with Connecticut as I ought and the task of finding the correct link is, at present, beyond my resources. Pete 00:31, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Someone deleted the section on Willimantic's heroin trade last November, which apparently slipped under the radar. I've re-added it, this time with footnotes. If someone wants to argue for the section's deletion, please do so here on the talk page rather than just deleting it again. grendel| khan 21:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The history section is going under the knife at the hands of unregistered users with very little comment or justification provided...is there some reason for this? A lot of this information (about all the railroads, for example) is really great and really specific, so I get the feeling that whoever is adding it has access to some historical records. Could we please cite this stuff so it can stay in the article? Statements like "This was the beginning of industrialized Willimantic" cannot remain in an article without a citation. Mjl0509 ( talk) 04:04, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
There's been mean battling about notable residents of the town, in which experienced editors "protect" their entries in the list but delete new editors' additions, perhaps because the new ones are not adequately supported. But NO entries were adequately supported, so i have now removed them all. Please don't add back any to the article without a proper Reliable Source attesting to the person's association with Willimantic. The removed items are:
-- do ncr am 22:47, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Chris Dodd may have born here but was never a "resident".-- 24.177.0.156 ( talk) 22:08, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
As someone who has lived in Willimantic for upwards of 40 years, I'm surprised when other long-time residents claim that because of consolidation in the 80s, Willimantic no longer exists. I say it's on every map, has a mayor, police force, fire department, and a public library, and that their position is like saying that Brooklyn, NY, does not exist since it was incorporated into New York City about a century ago. Of course, the situation is maybe more complicated in the case of Willimantic. The Wikipedia classifies Willimantic as "a census designated place" and also as a "village" in the town of Windham. Neither of these designations is very helpful. A village with a university, a hospital, a symphony orchestra, a theatre, dozens of churches, three of them Catholic, a community college, half a dozen schools, including a magnet school for the performing arts? Some village! Though the designation may be legally accurate, neither residents or visitors would think of Willimantic as a village. The designation Windham is also a problem because it is a town (meaning a township in Connecticut) and also a county, which some will tell you also no longer exists, though it's on all the maps. Though it may not be so legally, everyone thinks of Willimantic as a city with outlying villages all in the town(ship) of Windham. What I find especially irritating is the characterization of Windham/ Willimantic assumed by journalists in Hartford who apparently never have been here. Willimantic is not a shabby, derelict crime- and gang-ridden slum, but a vibrant city known for its historic Victorian architecture, as the Wikipedia article suggests. Jim Lacey ( talk) 18:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Locally, Willimantic is known as Willi. Wikipedia.doug ( talk) 03:17, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
The Anne Street pedestrian bridge in Minot, North Dakota crosses a road, several railroad tracks, a river, and a pedestrian trail. The section about it being the only footbridge that goes over a road, a railroad track, and a river. Bugo 01:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
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Noticing that the peer review found no issues and suggested the article was GA-ready as of last year, I've explicitly nominated it. grendel| khan 00:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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I conclude that this is very far from meeting the reliable sourcing (criterion 2) and neutrality (criterion 4) conditions for good articles, and has significant problems in other areas as well. As such it meets WP:GACR quick fail criterion 1, "It is a long way from meeting any one [in this case two] of the six good article criteria." — David Eppstein ( talk) 02:21, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
While revising the article in the hopes of getting it through the GA process ( great big diff here), something struck me. In the late nineteenth century, Willimantic was a mighty crossroads--three major rail lines ran through it, and the Hotel Hooker was the jewel of eastern Connecticut. At the dawn of the twenty-first century, the highway network--the modern equivalent of the railroads--doesn't come within ten miles of the town, and the Hotel Hooker was primarily known for heroin and prostitution. It's striking just how the wheel can turn. I can't make that sound encyclopedic, but it jumped out at me and I wanted to write it down somewhere. grendel| khan 04:51, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Just so this is written down somewhere outside of my own notes, here's my current set of ideas for what to do with the article.
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Reviewer: Bolter21 ( talk · contribs) 12:01, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
In 1983, the city and the town consolidated and became one town again.This sentence is entirely copied from the source. Should be rephrased.
"...vintage railroad buildings and a six-stall roundhouse reconstructed on the original foundation."original source:
"...as well as vintage railroad buildings and a six-stall roundhouse reconstructed on the original foundation."
"Willimantic is home to the only storefront food cooperative in the state"is sourced, and the only source whatsoever is the website of that store, so saying it is a "point of interest" is a problem, unless better sources are found.
Willimantic is the home of the Willimantic Footbridge. Built in 1907, it is the only footbridge in the United States to connect two state highways, as well as crossing all three major forms of transportation: road, rail, and river.where is the source for this?
This is my initial review, when these points are met, we could go further, but as I see it, the lack of information along with unsourced material and copyvios are the main problems.-- Bolter21 ( talk to me) 12:01, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Bolter21, it's been over two months since your review and nominator Grendelkhan's last Wikipedia edit was two days before said review, on January 24. I pinged their talk page on February 19, and there has been no response. At this point, given the significant issues with the nomination, the thing to do is probably to close it. You've been more than generous, letting it run all this time. Thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 13:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)