The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that 161 years ago today, William Y. Slack was promoted to
brigadier general, even though he was already dead?
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GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
Review 1@
Hog Farm: Please fix or argue your case for not fixing.
Djmaschek (
talk) 05:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Infobox: Battles/Wars is missing his Mexican-American War service.
Done
Introduction, paragraph 1, sentence 2: "as a child an entered" (an > and).
Corrected
Early life and career, paragraph 1, last sentence: "Slack had also married" ("had also" are not needed in this sentence).
Done
Early life and career, paragraph 2, last sentence: "blocked a retreat route" (blocked the enemy's retreat route).
Done
Civil War service is really lo-o-o-ong. Suggest adding subheaders (Carthage, Wilson's Creek & Pea Ridge?).
Have split this up
I love the State Guard map. It might be helpful to move the map up to paragraph 2 where the article first mentions the 4th Division, MSG.
Done
Civil War service, paragraph 2: "but left the area in June" (What area? Suggest: northwest Missouri or Chillicothe area).
Clarified
Civil War service, paragraph 2: "the state capital" (Be specific. Suggest: Jefferson City, the state capital).
Done
Civil War service, paragraph 4: "time to reorganized" (reorganize).
Corrected
Civil War service, paragraph 4, last sentence: "Overall, the Federal lines repulsed three Confederate assaults, but withdrew from the field." (This sounds wrong. You're summing up a whole battle in one sentence. Replace "Overall" with Ultimately or At day's end? Replace "but withdrew" with before withdrawing? See what you can do with this.).
Have fleshed out some context on Wilson's Creek a little more
Civil War service, paragraph 5, sentence 1: (Needs a period at the end.)
Fixed
Civil War service, paragraph 5, last sentence: "The assigned" (Suggest: His assignment to command).
Tweaked the phrasing
Civil War service, paragraph 7: "that new of Slack's death" (news).
Oops, corrected
Civil War service, paragraph 8: "had a tendence to" (tendency).
Fixed
Civil War service, paragraph 8: "Slack's men "devotedly..." (Slack's men were)
Done
More illustrations (e.g. Wilson's Creek, Pea Ridge, map of Missouri with locations) would really look nice, but are not required.
I've an image of the cemetery he is buried in. I'm not over-awed by the accuracy of the historical prints of Wilson's Creek and Pea Ridge. There's some decent stuff for Lexington/Hemp Bales, but unfortunately Slack missed that one.
@
Hog Farm: I want to do this one because I'm on a Civil War kick. Please note that I'm going to be out-of-pocket for a few days and may not get back to this until the middle of next week.
Djmaschek (
talk) 04:27, 18 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Djmaschek: - I've addressed all of these; sorry for the delay in getting to this.
Hog FarmTalk 01:08, 24 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Hog Farm: GA class. I made one correction in the Early life section that I missed earlier.
Djmaschek (
talk) 04:22, 24 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
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The result was: promoted by
Bruxton (
talk) 14:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
... that 161 years ago today, William Y. Slack (pictured) was dead when he was promoted to brigadier general? Source: Warner, p. 278. Can provide quote upon request
Hi
Hog Farm (
talk), review follows: article promoted to GA on 24 March; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources; sources are mostly offline so AGF on close paraphrasing, I did take a quick look at Bridges (1951) which is on JSTOR and found no issues; article is well written; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and cited, AGF on offline sourcing (though Bridges also confirms the fact); image is used in article and correctly licensed; a QPQ is ongoing -
Dumelow (
talk) 08:21, 30 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Just a thought, this could run on the anniversary of the promotion on 17 April with the possible addition of "161 years ago today" to the hook-
Dumelow (
talk) 08:23, 30 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Hog Farm and
Dumelow: I see he was referred to as a General while alive, but perhaps a form of respect?
see here source.
This one states that the rank was posthumously awarded. We could add one of these to the article so that it is easily confirmed online.
Bruxton (
talk) 14:32, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Bruxton: - As the text of the article makes clear, he was a general in the militia unit (the MSG), but ceded that commission to join the CS Army as a colonel. His promotion to CS general (the "real" rank) came after he passed on.
Hog FarmTalk 15:20, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that 161 years ago today, William Y. Slack was promoted to
brigadier general, even though he was already dead?
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GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
Review 1@
Hog Farm: Please fix or argue your case for not fixing.
Djmaschek (
talk) 05:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Infobox: Battles/Wars is missing his Mexican-American War service.
Done
Introduction, paragraph 1, sentence 2: "as a child an entered" (an > and).
Corrected
Early life and career, paragraph 1, last sentence: "Slack had also married" ("had also" are not needed in this sentence).
Done
Early life and career, paragraph 2, last sentence: "blocked a retreat route" (blocked the enemy's retreat route).
Done
Civil War service is really lo-o-o-ong. Suggest adding subheaders (Carthage, Wilson's Creek & Pea Ridge?).
Have split this up
I love the State Guard map. It might be helpful to move the map up to paragraph 2 where the article first mentions the 4th Division, MSG.
Done
Civil War service, paragraph 2: "but left the area in June" (What area? Suggest: northwest Missouri or Chillicothe area).
Clarified
Civil War service, paragraph 2: "the state capital" (Be specific. Suggest: Jefferson City, the state capital).
Done
Civil War service, paragraph 4: "time to reorganized" (reorganize).
Corrected
Civil War service, paragraph 4, last sentence: "Overall, the Federal lines repulsed three Confederate assaults, but withdrew from the field." (This sounds wrong. You're summing up a whole battle in one sentence. Replace "Overall" with Ultimately or At day's end? Replace "but withdrew" with before withdrawing? See what you can do with this.).
Have fleshed out some context on Wilson's Creek a little more
Civil War service, paragraph 5, sentence 1: (Needs a period at the end.)
Fixed
Civil War service, paragraph 5, last sentence: "The assigned" (Suggest: His assignment to command).
Tweaked the phrasing
Civil War service, paragraph 7: "that new of Slack's death" (news).
Oops, corrected
Civil War service, paragraph 8: "had a tendence to" (tendency).
Fixed
Civil War service, paragraph 8: "Slack's men "devotedly..." (Slack's men were)
Done
More illustrations (e.g. Wilson's Creek, Pea Ridge, map of Missouri with locations) would really look nice, but are not required.
I've an image of the cemetery he is buried in. I'm not over-awed by the accuracy of the historical prints of Wilson's Creek and Pea Ridge. There's some decent stuff for Lexington/Hemp Bales, but unfortunately Slack missed that one.
@
Hog Farm: I want to do this one because I'm on a Civil War kick. Please note that I'm going to be out-of-pocket for a few days and may not get back to this until the middle of next week.
Djmaschek (
talk) 04:27, 18 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Djmaschek: - I've addressed all of these; sorry for the delay in getting to this.
Hog FarmTalk 01:08, 24 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Hog Farm: GA class. I made one correction in the Early life section that I missed earlier.
Djmaschek (
talk) 04:22, 24 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Bruxton (
talk) 14:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
... that 161 years ago today, William Y. Slack (pictured) was dead when he was promoted to brigadier general? Source: Warner, p. 278. Can provide quote upon request
Hi
Hog Farm (
talk), review follows: article promoted to GA on 24 March; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources; sources are mostly offline so AGF on close paraphrasing, I did take a quick look at Bridges (1951) which is on JSTOR and found no issues; article is well written; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and cited, AGF on offline sourcing (though Bridges also confirms the fact); image is used in article and correctly licensed; a QPQ is ongoing -
Dumelow (
talk) 08:21, 30 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Just a thought, this could run on the anniversary of the promotion on 17 April with the possible addition of "161 years ago today" to the hook-
Dumelow (
talk) 08:23, 30 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Hog Farm and
Dumelow: I see he was referred to as a General while alive, but perhaps a form of respect?
see here source.
This one states that the rank was posthumously awarded. We could add one of these to the article so that it is easily confirmed online.
Bruxton (
talk) 14:32, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Bruxton: - As the text of the article makes clear, he was a general in the militia unit (the MSG), but ceded that commission to join the CS Army as a colonel. His promotion to CS general (the "real" rank) came after he passed on.
Hog FarmTalk 15:20, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply